I mean the NCR and Caesar's Legion are quite big. I'd think they can easily take it if they want. And I'm sure Caesar would give it a shot. Mr House might be a good ruler of Vegas but he'll need to invest in an army if he wants to stop these forces.

He already has an army? You know, hundreds of pre-War quality military-grade combat machines equipped with machineguns, lasers, grenades, and rocket launchers, not to mention the sturdy shell and self-repair systems?

Furthermore, he's an economic superpower in the region. The NCR, after being forced back, will be in political turmoil as Kimball's empire comes crashing down on him and the situation sorts itself. Not to mention that after such a drastically failed campaign, few people would be willing to throw away men and caps at what's essentially bruised ego. House would also keep the water and power flowing on top of providing commerce and covering NCR's eastern flank. It's a pretty solid position that will encourage cooperation, rather than military assaults.

The Legion, if House is in power, is exterminated by Securitrons at that point and Caesar/Lanius are forced to flee with their tails tucked between their legs. Even if Caesar's empire doesn't fall apart, it will be contained for years to come. You don't replace such losses overnight. Plus, the man has a brain tumor. His life expectancy is pretty damn short.

That is why Mr. House wants you to upgrade is robots so that the NCR and Legion wouldn't be able to take him out without one hell of a fight.

The NCR for most part doesn't want a war with House. House also doesn't want war with the NCR. He wasnt the NCR as his customers and he made deals with the NCR and the NCR seems happy to stick to those deals even if it isn't a great deal for them.

Yeah, I understand he has a strong army. But it's not reproducible, while the armies of other forces like the NCR and Caesar's legion are. They both are aimed at expansion in general. Mr House is only interested in New Vegas, or am I wrong?

Anyway, I think Vegas very vulnerable, as a tiny, independent city. Like the Nellis Air Force Base, they have a strong defense, but they can't hold out their enemies forever, they're a very small community after all.

Mr. House still has his Vault at the Fort so I am sure there is more than enough equipment and so on in there to build more securitrons in there.

Mr. House is only interested in Las Vegas, he doesn't want to be a political leader. He just wants to run his company, he's a business man after all. His goal is simply to be strong enough so no one will dare mess with him and in time he would do most of his business with the NCR. Mr. House would have others run things within his area for him like he does in the game with the Three Familys. As long as they make money and follow his rule and give House his cut then they will be left alone.

If house gains control of Las Vegas he developes alot of tech and so on, so he still has tech building equipment and so on. The Lucky 38 and his Vault at the Fort.

Says who? They're robots.

House plan is to reignite industrial and technology development sectors. He might not have the full capacity now, but soon enough he'll be able to replace his robots faster than the NCR or the Legion can pop out soldiers.

Vegas is a relatively small community...with untold thousands of rocket-toting, grenade-hurling, laser-shooting robots at its beck and call. Conquering it is not only a difficult proposition, it would be a ludicrously costly one that would likely be more trouble than its worth in the eyes of many people. Which is the reason you have a standing army in the first place; to deter (potential) enemies from wanting to pick a fight with you. Considering the state NCR is in at the end of NV in a House ending, as well as what House is offering them, it's ridiculous to believe they're even going to go to war against Vegas anytime soon.

And besides, whose to say that House can't eventually get a Securitron production facility up and running? Assuming he doesn't have one already.

A tiny independent city? It's a hub of commerce for an entire region and a vital element of trade routes to the east. It's a beacon of tourism. And then there's the massive Dam supplying water and power, giving it incredible trade power. And all of this was accomplished in less than a decade.

As Ceasar says, it's not a time for gadgets. Mr. House robots are good fighters, but they cannot be replaced. One can pick them up one by one and in few years House wouldn't have an army. But he knows that, and he already has a solution: diplomacy. I would say, the power to keep vegas depends on his diplomatic skills rather than his army.

I'm really confused where people are getting this "robots can't be replaced" idea from.

House also (depending on Player choices) may have the only Air Force. The Boomers have a dream, and Mr House can help them make the dream reality. The Remnants of the Enclave may choose to remain in Vegas, and Boomers would by thier own ideaology be forced into almost worship of the Remnants.

In terms of wealth it's big and powerful, but in terms of size it's a small state on it's own.

Also keep in mind Caesar was completely unaware of an entire Vault full of securitrons in the hundreds and heavy machines and such right under his fort. So the only robots Caesar knows about are the ones at the Strip. But even the Lucky 38 has equipment and machines in the basemant. So it looks like it is also able to produce robots.

Mr. House wants diplomacy with the NCR because the NCR will be his biggest customer. What good is becoming the hub of technological development and having Casinos and other places of entertainment if you have no one to sell your products to and no tourists to come and gamble away their hard earned money.

I think many Players do not realise that New Vegas has a well maintained and intact Foundry. H+H Tools buildings are almost totally intact, and the Machinery has been maintained since before the War.

How it being small mean you are vulnerable? There are alot of small nations right now that you wouldn't want to mess with because they are militarily powerful and wealthy.

But where the hell does he get the recources from to build new robots?

That and the Lucky 38 and Mr. House's Securitron Vault under Fortification Hill. It is a wonder that alot of players seem to miss all that or just gloss it over as irrelevant. The Mr. House ending makes it clear that House wasn't just a mad man with wild ideas, he really did have the ability to carry out is plans with the resources he has.

It's not that they can't be replaced, the question is how he's going to replace them.

We see little to no industry in New Vegas (Like, one small steel mill and another place I can't remember) to produce the parts needed for Securitrons, that means he's either going to have to build new factories to produce what he needs or he's going to need to rely on an outside force to provide him with the resources he needs. But as it stands, he has no means of actually replacing the robots, there are no factories as far as I know and even if there are he doesn't have a gigantic stock of components for the robot designs.

I think he'll eventually get a factory up and running which will produce what he needs but until then he has no means of actually producing more robots.

(Unless I'm completely wrong and he actually have a factory somewhere as well as a stockpile of resources, in which case; Disregard this post)

You're completely right. And New Vegas is military very powerful, but I don't know any nation in real life as small as New Vegas, a city.

He would buy them from the NCR. I am sure he would also have tons of supplies needed to build more than enough robots stashed away in his Securitron Vault.

Sure the NCR could cut Mr. House off of supplies but House can cut them off from the water and power they really need. So it cuts both ways and I am sure the NCR wouldn't be able to stop people from trading or visiting the Strip.. So Mr. House has the upper hand. The NCR would be the first to just make a deal to continue trade with Mr. House and move on to other places and deal with the Legion and other enemies. Mr. House doesn't want to attack the NCR or take it over, he just wants to be able to deal with the NCR on his own terms.

In terms of the Fallout Universe, New Vegas could be a powerful nation. No matter how small. Mr. House's influence would also expand to the rest of the Mojave if I am not mistaken.

You also have to remember that the NCR itself is just a bunch of cities in the Wasteland as well. City States if you will. LA which was once a city is pretty much now considered a State within the NCR.

The part House doesn't want to be a political power or want to conquer land is clear to me. I guess I have to study the NCR a bit more, they really do gather new resources?

Novac Residents would happily work for House to scavenge for materials (They may already be unofficial employees of Mr House), all of the Abandoned Vehicles littering New Vegas can easily become new Securitrons.

There are groups that are currently part of the NCR that could be convinced by greed to supply Gatling Lasers for Mr. House. Gun Runners is a business, and firearms manufacturing is easily converted into component manufacturing and assembly.

I could bring up Saturnite...

Yes, the NCR does gather raw material in order to build new products. An example of this is Quarry Junction in which the NCR was using the quarry to make cement and they were using that to build infrastructure for the NCR.

The NCR is also building railways and so on. We know they are spending alot of money into rebuilding LA aka The Boneyard and they want Hoover Dam for the electricity as well as the water and the NCR has been working to rebuild alot of the pre-war irrigation systems.

Also one just has to look at Shady Sands itself to see that it has been built using after war materials.

If the NCR could beat the Enclave and the BoS, I'm sure they can beat a shriveled up old prune and a bunch of crappy Secruitrons.