Can I now play oblivion?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:57 am

I got a new video card Its radeon 9800 Pro?
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Lynette Wilson
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:43 pm

First off, you already have the question of what will or won't work started, so your additional datum belonged in that message thread.

"Posted Yesterday, 10:09 PM
AMD Athlon? XP 2500+ 1.83 GHZ, 512 MB OF RAM "

It more than meets the minimum, yes. It's getting quite elderly by now, however. I hope you got it free or inexpensively. It's seven years old now. That CPU is minimum, and that RAM is really miniscule, so you'll have a lot of less-enjoyable deficiencies, such as very slow scene changes caused by the so-small RAM.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:49 am

First off, you already have the question of what will or won't work started, so your additional datum belonged in that message thread.

"Posted Yesterday, 10:09 PM
AMD Athlon? XP 2500+ 1.83 GHZ, 512 MB OF RAM "

It more than meets the minimum, yes. It's getting quite elderly by now, however. I hope you got it free or inexpensively. It's seven years old now. That CPU is minimum, and that RAM is really miniscule, so you'll have a lot of less-enjoyable deficiencies, such as very slow scene changes caused by the so-small RAM.

Gorath

Will I be able to play oblivion with a GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8X video card?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:14 am

Of course not. That's a nine year old (designwise, anyway) junk card that isn't even worth the cost of the rare metals used in its manufacture any more. The game requires the first notch of Dx9, which includes Pixel Shader SM2. The MXes didn't include any pixel shader functions of any kind that I ever knew about.

Here is the most detailed video card ranking for Oblivion ever done, and for AGP, it doesn't matter that it's two years old now:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/797401-video-card-ranking-list/page__p__11589816__fromsearch__1&#entry11589816
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:36 pm

Of course not. That's a nine year old junk card that isn't even worth the cost of the rare metals used in its manufacture. The game requires the first notch of Dx9, which includes Pixel Shader SM2. The MXes didn't include any pixel shader functions of any kind that I ever knew about.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/797401-video-card-ranking-list/page__p__11589816__fromsearch__1&#entry11589816


The Geforce 4 MX series are DirectX 7 cards so no pixel shader support. They were basically Geforce 2s.

Oblivion needs SM2.0b (I believe).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 am

I think I'd be betting it was closer to being a Riva TNT than to a "real" Geforce. The MX200 was essentially the same as the several MX4xx cards, with the MX4000 (the very last MX, TTBOMK) being WORSE than an MX440.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=127&card2=120

Personally, if the author of the thread must actually spend more than a very few dollars on an elderly, but still usable video card, it won't be what I'd consider a good investment. The entire machine is just too old, too slow, too obsolete, to waste spending much on it.

The 9800 he / she mentioned, or an X800, or an X1600, any of those would be fine, same as some Geforces (the old ones just had too few shader units to let Oblivion look good, and it took a 6800 GS to have both enough memory bandwidth and speed to match those Radeons for smoothness, but because the 6800 SE and 6800 XT were so very bad, they confuse matters, forcing me to want to name a Geforce 7600 as the easiest / least confusing of elderly nVIDIA products to want to suggest).

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:08 pm

I think I'd be betting it was closer to being a Riva TNT than to a real Geforce. The MX200 was essentially the same as the several MX4xx cards, with the MX4000 (the very last MX, TTBOMK) being WORSE than an MX440.

Personally, if the author of the thread must actually spend more than a very few dollars on an elderly, but still usable video card, it won't be what I'd consider a good investment. The entire machine is just too old, too slow, too obsolete, to waste spending much on it. The 9800 he mentioned, or an X800, or an X1600, any of those would be fine, same as some Geforces (the old ones just had too few shader units to let Oblivion look good, and it took a 6800 GS to have both enough memory bandwidth and speed to match those Radeons for smoothness, but because the 6800 SE and 6800 XT were so very bad, they confuse matters, forcing me to want to name a Geforce 7600 as the easiest of eldrely nVIDIA products to want to suggest).


They were meant to replace the Geforce 2 MX series in the OEM (direct) market. They had an upgraded memory controller (128-bit DDR) and several other upgrades that it shared with the Geforce 4 Ti series.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:15 pm

The differences between MXes and most of the "Geforce" cards was pretty stark. I have a link to a comparison of raw specs for the GF2 GTS versus the MX 440, and the GTS still appears to be twice as good, although two "generations" older. Someone, at some time, among those from my friends and family for whom I've done hardware builds / upgrades, wanted an MX 440 once. I have the box it came in, and the card in there is still quite clean looking, as if whoever wanted it at first decided against it rather quickly. I never knew what to do with the silly thing after that.

This link also appears above: http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=127&card2=120

I was at least somewhat surprised to pause this evening and compare the original MX200 with this one, however, and found it still pretty bad, although not quite so totally awful.


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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:54 pm

The differences between MXes and most of the "Geforce" cards was pretty stark. I have a link to a comparison of raw specs for the GF2 GTS versus the MX 440, and the GTS still appears to be twice as good, although two "generations" older. Someone, at some time, among those from my friends and family for whom I've done hardware builds / upgrades, wanted an MX 440 once. I have the box it came in, and the card in there is still quite clean looking, as if whoever wanted it at first decided against it rather quickly. I never knew what to do with the silly thing after that.

This link also appears above: http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=127&card2=120

I was at least somewhat surprised to pause this evening and compare the original MX200 with this one, however, and found it still pretty bad, although not quite so totally awful.


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Would I be able to play Morrowind?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:45 pm

What happened to the potential ATI Radeon 9800 that this thread got started with?

In spite of the manner in which the system requirements are worded, I would have to assume that the MX 440 would be adequate for ES III. It's my recollection that I had a 32 MB TNT 2 card back then . .

The MX compares quite favorably to my old TNT card, as per what the following side by side spec sheets show:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=207&card2=117

Please believe me, however, if you aren't able to acquire that MX 440 for less than $10, it's not worth doing -- just no salvagable value from it or from the ancient PC you are dealing with.

Release date 5-01-2002

What are the system requirements for playing Morrowind?

MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:

* Windows ME/98 128 MB RAM
* Windows XP/2000 256 MB RAM
* 500 MHz Intel Pentium III, Celeron, or AMD Athlon processor
* 8x CD/DVD-ROM Drive
* 1 GB free hard disk space
* Windows swapfile
* DirectX 8.1 (included)
* 32MB Direct3D compatible video card with 32-bit color support and DirectX 8.1 compatible driver
* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
* Keyboard, Mouse
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:45 am

Thats a yes right?
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Frank Firefly
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:14 pm

Thats a yes right?


Yes, you can play Morrowind, but not Oblivion... with the Geforce 4 MX. The water will look bland because of the lack of shader support.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:51 pm

Yes, you can play Morrowind, but not Oblivion... with the Geforce 4 MX. The water will look bland because of the lack of shader support.

So That means... I can play Morrowind with no lag?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:34 pm

Morrowind has its own Tech Discussions forums, and there are still gamers playing it, so you should be asking them about it now.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?
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