I don't think that the starter of the thread realised that CE3 is also capable of DX11 -which doesn't mean that a game come with it... If you'd just say that BF3 comes with it - "ok point made" but as I read and understood your post it is missing a deeper sense for the least.

Greetings,
Goldsteal

Pirates have taken ever reason to make a PC only game away. You can continue to defend or excuse pirating, and we'll continue down the path similar to what we're seeing now. I said it in 2004 and I'm saying it again now. Pirating will make (or continueto make) the PC an undesireable platform, especially for any Big Budget games.

We're moving in a closed circle there then. Because when they make a game that is inferior to it's predecessor when we all know that they CAN make it much much better for pc, then many of us (myself included) would pirate it, even though at the start we planned to buy it. How else can we show that we're pissed and unhappy with this ****? Buy it and hope for the best with next product? **** no. Port or not, but they did NOT have any excuse after first game to make crysis 2 the way it is now on PC. It's a slap in the face of PC community. We slap them back by pirating it. Give me full DX11 support, realistic physics and other stuff the PC version should've had and I'll be the first to run to the nearest shop to "vote with bucks".
You don't want to show that you care about PC community, Crytek, ah there are too many pirates, well too **** bad, we won't pay you then. If you were a little bit smarter, you'd at the very least call it some other name but Crysis and changed design a bit and it'd be fine. But it's a crysis, so no excuse for what you've done.

I do not remember any single game out there sequel of which had an inferior graphics to it's predecessor, ESPECIALLY 3 years later. This is just... I dunno... lol?

And most of "big budget games" are made by companies that make consoles anyway to keep ppl buy their damn consoles... Halo, Gears of War, Uncharted, God of War... These games won't ever be ported to PC even if they had most money from it. And you don't really give ppl a reason to buy a good PC, they'll do it anyway...
Pity current gen consoles emulators are probably 7-10 years away....

@ SilentPhenomed

I think you misunderstood my point about Ports, I said 'technically' since it's a coded language that is written on a PC exclusively and processed as binary(all is one). I do understand how game engines work to an extent, especially the Unreal3 engine. I also understand the fact that It was built to make games for multiple platforms, but some people would never "get it" until they actually messed around with It.

I read what you said about Crytek's passion for making games, and i do agree that the best products are made by those you care the most, but It's a business In the end, and Money is all that EA and Shareholders care about and they are the ones who make the final decisions on the chopping block. People need to grow up a little and realize that the world does not revolve around their whimsical wants and petty needs, EA just wants your money and nothing more.

It's a symbiotic relationship--we get games we want and they get our hard earned dollars--If you don't like, then don't buy... it's that simple. We Pay a 1 time fee of $50+tax and get a 10-12 hour campaign and years of free MP while they tirelessly keep bringing us updates because petty ppl like the OP keep complaining that some Jerk just like him thought he was better than everyone else and deserves to walk around in MP with Aimbots and Infinite cloak. They think patching and server maintenance a few years to come is worth a measly $50+tax?!-- GTFO of here!

Then having the Audacity to insult the Crytek team on their own Forums because he didn't like the game? Blow it out your arse if you don't like It OP, nobody put a gun to your head and told you to buy it.. they had a Beta and a DEMO-- If you don't like It then move on cause they OWE U NOTHING!!

And for the record, I liked Crysis/Warhead but I prefer the streamlined control scheme In Crysis2 20x better, Minus a few bugs and hackers I think I'll be playing this game for a very long time

-----------------Happy Hunting Gentlemen!------------

Pirates have taken ever reason to make a PC only game away. You can continue to defend or excuse pirating, and we'll continue down the path similar to what we're seeing now. I said it in 2004 and I'm saying it again now. Pirating will make (or continueto make) the PC an undesireable platform, especially for any Big Budget games.

We're moving in a closed circle there then. Because when they make a game that is inferior to it's predecessor when we all know that they CAN make it much much better for pc, then many of us (myself included) would pirate it, even though at the start we planned to buy it. How else can we show that we're pissed and unhappy with this ****? Buy it and hope for the best with next product? **** no. ....

And that's the flawed mindset that will continue to drive down the PC market. I don't like your product so I'm going to steal it to teach you a lesson. Really ? That's how you plan to do it? And How would Crytek\EA every know you planned to buy it ? and if the game is so horrible, why are you downloading it ? I went to Burger King and stole a meal because I wanted them to know how unhappy I was, because someone else said the meal svcked ?!?
If you want to teach a company a lesson you don't buy the product or don't do repeat business with them. Peroid. Move along to the next company.

Let's not forget the same argument is made for Music and Movie pirating. When Hollywood quits making crap movies I'll stop pirating them. I hate Justin Beiber, so I downloaded all his songs to teach the record company a lesson !

The PC market has enough problems without pirating. Tech Support on a PC game is far harder than on a Console game. That alone is enough to make some companies perfer consoles right off the bat. Now you want to throw in that your game might get pirated more than purchased and you have a tough sell for sticking with PCs over consoles.

And I'm pretty sure if you follow the game sales you're going to see Consoles outselling the PC for whatever reason. At the end of the day, you can download all the PC games you want to teach those companies a lesson. They are already moving (or have moved) over to the consoles, and every download is just another reason not to waste any resources on the PC market.

And for the record, I am bit disapppointed with Crysis 2. My main complaint is just with the horrid AI. I like pretty graphics, I have a rig to run the DX11, but pretty takes a back seat to fun. And in this case, Bad AI makes the game no fun

Most people who pirate will purchase the game if they like it. Other wise they won't waste thier time playing something they don't like. A portion of people who pirate couldn't afford to buy it anyways so there are no lost sales.

I'll simply disagree. The facts also tend to prove this wrong. People steal games, music, movies, because they can. Why would anyone who downloads a full funtional game, play it from start to finish, then go out and pay $50-$60.
They don't. It was predicted by many gaming magazines and website years ago when Pirating was taking off that it could lead to deveolpers moving away from the PC and towards consoles if it didn't stop.

There are plenty of gaming sites and magazines that review games. Surely people could find at least one site they agree with, instead of pirating. While it's hard to prove. How do you prove that Pirates every buy games ? Cliffy B stated they saw tons of Unreal keys that they never issued being created by key Gens and used.

Crytek saw (and stated) with Crysis 1 that they saw far more more stolen copies than sold copies. Pirates have taken ever reason to make a PC only game away. You can continue to defend or excuse pirating, and we'll continue down the path similar to what we're seeing now. I said it in 2004 and I'm saying it again now. Pirating will make (or continueto make) the PC an undesireable platform, especially for any Big Budget games.

You can use the their all greedy Corporate types arguments all you want, it's not going to change the direction PC is headed.
All I forsee is a loop TBH as all the games vanish from PC evertone only wants to pirate console games so consoles get the living rubbish taken out of them from piracy and suddenly the PC market looks really good all of a sudden so it starts to go back >_> rinse and repeat.

This thread is getting out of control. Lets all understand something, most of all console gamers use a console because of the convenience of it. Pc gamers such as my self like eye candy, we thrive for realistic looking environments and game play. Crysis 2 was dumbed down the easy way from console to pc instead of pc to console. How would u like it as a console gamer if the graphics were dumbed down to work on a lesser machine lets say for argument sake, it was dumbed down to regular xbox standards. Now would u play it with graphics such as that all because they wanted to take the easier route, when u could be playing it at a far better level because your system is capable and made that way. Thats what were talking about, we didnt chose the simple route (consoles) because we want to be able to keep up with the advances that come out every few months. We chose to spend more money upgrading our systems to play the latest eye candy, because we like it. Most of us bought the game because we were told it was the newest and greatest eye candy ever released. And we believed that because of how ground breaking crysis 1 was and how it looked. Now u can bich and whine, well they would never make it for xbox graphics because theres xbox 360 which has far better components which allow a huge increase in the eye candy. Thats what they have done they dumbed down our version to suit your systems. Now u can say it looks great which in many cases it does but just because your console owner and cant get any better doesnt make it fair. If u could upgrade your consoles to support what crysis 2 could really do, and got handed a dumbed down version just because theres a vast majority of xbox 360s that people own that dont want to waste the money on upgrades, u would be pissed as well. So lets not try to look at this single minded u got what u payed for but we didnt its that simple. We were promised many things we didnt receive while what most of us did get was game thats easily one of the buggiest games ever to be released. So attempting to put pc gamers down when your not in the same spot because u received something that took full advantage of what your system had to offer is complete ignorance to what the problem is. Thats all i have to say on this issue, so lets not get into a cock fight when the issue is black and white.

This thread is getting out of control. Lets all understand something, most of all console gamers use a console because of the convenience of it. Pc gamers such as my self like eye candy, we thrive for realistic looking environments and game play. Crysis 2 was dumbed down the easy way from console to pc instead of pc to console. How would u like it as a console gamer if the graphics were dumbed down to work on a lesser machine lets say for argument sake, it was dumbed down to regular xbox standards. Now would u play it with graphics such as that all because they wanted to take the easier route, when u could be playing it at a far better level because your system is capable and made that way. Thats what were talking about, we didnt chose the simple route (consoles) because we want to be able to keep up with the advances that come out every few months. We chose to spend more money upgrading our systems to play the latest eye candy, because we like it. Most of us bought the game because we were told it was the newest and greatest eye candy ever released. And we believed that because of how ground breaking crysis 1 was and how it looked. Now u can bich and whine, well they would never make it for xbox graphics because theres xbox 360 which has far better components which allow a huge increase in the eye candy. Thats what they have done they dumbed down our version to suit your systems. Now u can say it looks great which in many cases it does but just because your console owner and cant get any better doesnt make it fair. If u could upgrade your consoles to support what crysis 2 could really do, and got handed a dumbed down version just because theres a vast majority of xbox 360s that people own that dont want to waste the money on upgrades, u would be pissed as well. So lets not try to look at this single minded u got what u payed for but we didnt its that simple. We were promised many things we didnt receive while what most of us did get was game thats easily one of the buggiest games ever to be released. So attempting to put pc gamers down when your not in the same spot because u received something that took full advantage of what your system had to offer is complete ignorance to what the problem is. Thats all i have to say on this issue, so lets not get into a cock fight when the issue is black and white.

They had a Beta and a DEMO you toddler!-- If you can't figure out if it was up to par with your standards from those two and still bought the game expecting something completely different than you are a moron! Xbox 360 is the lowest common denominator in the PC/console equation.. and if a game is going to be multi platform then guess what they will use as the benchmark? Stop your crying you silly fanboy!--If your PC Community wasn't made up of thieves and thugs then there wouldn't be any need for stripped down PC/consoles you Idiot.

And for the record.. pirating somebody's game just to teach them a lesson is about the most hypocritical BS excuse I've heard In the existence of man; If you're gonna steal something.. man up!-- and say the real reason, don't try to justify your misdeeds and label It a crusade when it's nothing more than petty theft. If you think that stealing a game is a logical thing to do and then complain when that said company(crytek) dumps a big 360 capped turd on your face (PC), then there is obviously something seriously wrong with the inner workings of your brain-- Ask yourself this: "Was it a dream?--or did I really get lobotomized when I was a child?"

They had a Beta and a DEMO you toddler!-- If you can't figure out if it was up to par with your standards from those two and still bought the game expecting something completely different than you are a moron! Xbox 360 is the lowest common denominator in the PC/console equation.. and if a game is going to be multi platform then guess what they will use as the benchmark? Stop your crying you silly fanboy!--If your PC Community wasn't made up of thieves and thugs then there wouldn't be any need for stripped down PC/consoles you Idiot.

And for the record.. pirating somebody's game just to teach them a lesson is about the most hypocritical BS excuse I've heard In the existence of man; If you're gonna steal something.. man up!-- and say the real reason, don't try to justify your misdeeds and label It a crusade when it's nothing more than petty theft. If you think that stealing a game is a logical thing to do and then complain when that said company(crytek) dumps a big 360 capped turd on your face (PC), then there is obviously something seriously wrong with the inner workings of your brain-- Ask yourself this: "Was it a dream?--or did I really get lobotomized when I was a child?"




lol someones butt hurt, take your retarded and mislead opinions back to the console forum. Dont think you played the beta, you should of then youd know why you sound so stupid. And point out in my post where i said pirating is ok lol. you must not know to much if you think all of the pc community pirates lol. If that was true there would be no crysis 2. Go look up some facts then try again. After that go change your diaper wipe your nose and tell your daddy you been a bad boy like he wants to hear. **** console rat, and im sure it was very hard for you to get to this website with out a joy stick in your hand and one up your ass. Please let the grown ups do the debating.

Bla bla bla isn't a port bla. Port is the wrong word bla bla. We can argue about meanings of a word all day. Doesn't make it less true that the PC version is nothing more than a portation of a game developed for consoles. The engine is obviously not a port. Call it consolization. I don't care what the name is.