This may answer some questions...or just piss people off...it kind of frustrates me and shows where Yerli got his reasoning for doing things with a console mindset.

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/637/crysis-2-cevat-yerli-qa?o=1#listing

It didn't even make sense to me, and it only pisses me off. lol.

I just want a no-bs answer. Like "yes it was easier", or "Because we wanted more money".

They make the console version first because of console limitations then just port it to PC version and I quote "because it can handle anything we do on a console". NO **** SHERLOCK!

We can also handle a multitude of functions that the console version cannot, but I guess that doesn't matter at all. I'm done with crytek, they can seriously **** off.

Dude, it's both. You know that. I know that, tons of other people know that.

This crusade to get an answer is an exercise in futility. They won't respond. You're gonna just have to trust yourself on this one man. No other option.

Stop the whole PC vs Console debate already. Ok Crysis 2 is a bad consoleport but what the hell do console gamers have to do whit the fact that the developers were lazy? This guy brings up some valid points but comes of as a giant douche just because he thinks that PC gamers are some sort of supreme being over console gamers. Who cares what platform you play on, as long as you are enjoining the games.

Stop the whole PC vs Console debate already. Ok Crysis 2 is a bad consoleport but what the hell do console gamers have to do whit the fact that the developers were lazy? This guy brings up some valid points but comes of as a giant douche just because he thinks that PC gamers are some sort of supreme being over console gamers. Who cares what platform you play on, as long as you are enjoining the games.

Console gamers don't have anything to do with developers being lazy. No one said they had any connection in the first place.

I myself don't like console gamers. Because consoles are part of the reason why pc gaming is being downgraded for no reason. I could go on and on about why I hate those noobs but I'll leave it at that.

Stop the whole PC vs Console debate already. Ok Crysis 2 is a bad consoleport but what the hell do console gamers have to do whit the fact that the developers were lazy? This guy brings up some valid points but comes of as a giant douche just because he thinks that PC gamers are some sort of supreme being over console gamers. Who cares what platform you play on, as long as you are enjoining the games.

Unfortunately. PC games arent about that.

They are about drivers and options and tweaking and mods. No fun involved. For normal people anyways. That is WHY PC's are fun for me.

Heh.

Crytek is a PC based software company. This is their first attempt at a multi-platform game release. I think they did a pretty good job with that. I played the campaign with no problems, and was amazed a the game crytek created. It seems to me people are only complaining about the online side of the game. Multi-player issues at the time of the release are expected, because of certain unknown variables games are never perfect when released. PC gamers also get the benefit of playing on dedicated servers, Unlike console gamers, and this makes things more complicated. Patches will be made to fix these problems, but that takes time.

The game has only been out a week. If for some reason you are incapable of waiting go see a therapist or go play the campaign again on a harder difficulty or try to find all the collectibles. Enjoy the amazing game that crytek has made for everyone.

Also I suggest visiting crytek's website to learn a little more about the company before you attack them with questions like this. They have given us 4 great games, and the first 3 are only for PC(far cry, crysis, crysis warehead). They are also creating another FPS just for us PC gamers called "Warface". You may find your answer there. Here is some information I found interesting:

CryENGINE?3
CryENGINE?3 Live Create
"This allows developers to work with a single editor, but see and play the results in real-time on PC, PlayStation?3 and Xbox 360?, hooked up to a single dev PC. The engine takes care of the conversion and optimization of assets in real-time, enabling instant, cross-platform changes to any part of game creation and, as a result, materially increasing the speed and quality, while significantly reducing the risk of multi-platform development."
http://crytek.com/cryengine/cryengine3/overview

"After developing a cutting edge PC engine, having to re-adjust the technology to run efficiently on consoles, where memory is one of the biggest limitations, and maintaining scalability for the next engine iteration, was an incredible achievement. A huge engineering effort was required in order to run Crysis 2 on console hardware: a new streaming system, refactoring of many modules (physics, animation and renderer), low level CPU/GPU and multi-core optimizations, etc."
http://crytek.com/news/achieved-with-cryengine-3

"Due to a lot of hard work and heavy optimization on GPU/CPU side since Crysis 1, every spec
on PC should mostly play at 60 fps at 1080p assuming the user selects the right sys spec for
his machine and has a fast enough CPU."

If you want to learn more about the Graphics Differences between console and PC(PC always better):
http://crytek.com/assets/Crysis-2-Key-Rendering-Features.pdf


On a different note. You all may thank me for the new LOCKED Crysis 2 Update Thread http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=16516
the "Contact" section is directed at me for sending a PM to a developer(cry-adam) suggesting that they make a locked update thread. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't like searching through all the **** replies in a thread looking for a problem/issue update from a developer.

the problem isn't even the fact that its a console port. The plot of the game doesn't even have anything to do with crysis 1.

The seth and everything about them are completely different rofl.

I bet you they couldn't do the seth the same because they would have looked retarded with CE3 so they made new seth. LOL.

They're called 'ceph'.

Try paying more attention and maybe you'll 'get it'.

Sounds the same to me, Don't care how its spelled their chief troll fanboi.

ph and th are not pronounced the same.

Go to school.

Hm, still sounds almost exactly the same to me, and I really don't give a **** how you spell it.

Because they don't look anything like they did in crysis 1. bad game is bad.

You could say the "Seth" are a generic knockoff from the original "ceph" either way they sound exactly the same.

Shelledfade, I can't quite understand if you're being serious or not, because the answer seems quite obvious. Crysis 2 is a console port because first game didn't sell too well while being a pc exclusive, so they decided to finally start making money off consoles too. They had a tough choice, but I'm pretty sure it was EA's decision in the end to release a console port on PC. A port that looks totally same as console version, so console gamers could say "ah, whatever, I'll buy it on my xbox/ps3, it looks same on PC anyway". I can't quite understand if totally **** up whole PC community and get huge disrespect was worth the move, when I sure if they'd make Crysis 2 a real PC game with DX11 and all the nice stuff a good modern compurer game should be (as everyone expected), they'd get nice console sales while retaining PC community respect AND higher sales at this platform also. But they made thier move. They are going to regret it. As for me personally, I feel so much insulted by this move that I simply pirated the game. Oh yeah. If you gonna spit on us, dear Crytek/EA, then we gonna spit back on you. WE gamers lose nothing. YOU lose money.

Shelledfade, I can't quite understand if you're being serious or not, because the answer seems quite obvious. Crysis 2 is a console port because first game didn't sell too well while being a pc exclusive, so they decided to finally start making money off consoles too.

I stopped reading here. That's no excuse to noobify the living **** out of the pc version. Tell me I'm wrong.

it is a console game ported to pc
be happy you can play it on pc

Shelledfade, while I agree with you, you have to chill a bit. It's just a game after all, there's no need to be flaming each other like that.

The reason the game turned out as it did is quite clear and doesn't really need an answer: money. By their own choice or pressure from EA, doesn't matter either way. I'm sad myself to see this as a sequel and more than likely the future for the classic such as Crysis. It deserved a game that builds on it and moves forward rather than being a step backward in almost every way.

Shelledfade, while I agree with you, you have to chill a bit.

Why should I ? The past couple of years PC gaming has been getting shafted by every gaming company out there. There are only a FEW who remain. Blizzard, valve, bethesda, (dice if they can recover with BF3).

Seriously, dragon age 2 was a horrifying console port in my opinion and a terrible sequel muck like crysis 2 is. Black ops, Fallout new vegas, ME2, mw2, I mean come on. COME ON.

Every time a game comes out and its a company I actually LIKE and then find out after that it has been stripped down and changed into a console game it puts me in a BAD mood. I'm not going to chill out until PC stops getting shafted. Neither should anyone else in the pc community.

Because its 100 percent, ****.

it is a console game ported to pc
be happy you can play it on pc

You sir can take a long walk off a short pier.

Settling for tofu when steak was promised is how we got in this mess in the first place. We are not little orphans needing to beg the headmaster "Please sir, more".
We are customers who PURCHASE thier product, and we did so because of what was put out by Crytek about the game. We expected a much better sequal that was a PC game first. Some of people may be content to be a doormat but I for one am not.

Shelledfade, I can't quite understand if you're being serious or not, because the answer seems quite obvious. Crysis 2 is a console port because first game didn't sell too well while being a pc exclusive, so they decided to finally start making money off consoles too.

I stopped reading here. That's no excuse to noobify the living **** out of the pc version. Tell me I'm wrong.


Wait... Wait! Did I sound like I'm DEFENDING them? Oh my I probably did. I DO FRIGGIN' IN NO WAY NOT DEFENDING THEM. I'm pissed to no limits and not going to buy their games until they show me a real quality product. I just said what the real reason behind the port is.

I wasn't sure, because i really didn't read beyond that point lol.

Shelledfade, while I agree with you, you have to chill a bit.

Why should I ? The past couple of years PC gaming has been getting shafted by every gaming company out there. There are only a FEW who remain. Blizzard, valve, bethesda, (dice if they can recover with BF3).



You're not going to like the answer. But PC gaming is getting shafted because of all the pirating! Of course, no one will want to accept that, and eveyone will just say that the companies are lying. When they follow a torrent of the game and it say 4-5 million downloaded and they look at sales and it says 1 million sold, there is your answer as to why they go for the consoles. When they sale 4-5 times more copies of a console version than a PC version. There is your answer.
Don't shift the blame away from those who have directly affected what's going on. Many have defended pirating from the get go, and now we're all reaping the rewards of that defense. Keep defending it and see how much worse PC gaming gets.

Shelledfade, while I agree with you, you have to chill a bit.

Why should I ? The past couple of years PC gaming has been getting shafted by every gaming company out there. There are only a FEW who remain. Blizzard, valve, bethesda, (dice if they can recover with BF3).



You're not going to like the answer. But PC gaming is getting shafted because of all the pirating! Of course, no one will want to accept that, and eveyone will just say that the companies are lying. When they follow a torrent of the game and it say 4-5 million downloaded and they look at sales and it says 1 million sold, there is your answer as to why they go for the consoles. When they sale 4-5 times more copies of a console version than a PC version. There is your answer.
Don't shift the blame away from those who have directly affected what's going on. Many have defended pirating from the get go, and now we're all reaping the rewards of that defense. Keep defending it and see how much worse PC gaming gets.

Most people who pirate will purchase the game if they like it. Other wise they won't waste thier time playing something they don't like. A portion of people who pirate couldn't afford to buy it anyways so there are no lost sales. What most gaming companies want to admit too (and you as well), is that a small portion of people who pirate games keep what they pirate and do not purchase the game, these are the real douche bags. Also if you are going to mention demo's don't, majority pale in comparison anymore to what the real games they are suppose to be demoing are and are far from helping in making an informed decision.

Most people who pirate want to make sure the game is worth the hype and the cash. Crysis 2 is a good example of this. PC gamers are tired of getting the shaft and putting forth 50-60 bucks for something they are not sure they will like. Unlike console games we have little recourse in recouping our lost money returning the games once they are open.

If developers would produce better quality games and stopped developing a game with the lowest plateform in mind (Xbox360), instead start with PC then worked thier way down (PC to PS3 to Xbox360) then less people would feel the need to try it before buying it. As it states, lazy greed drives them and they are a victim of thier own ego.

I love how anybody with an opposite opinion is automatically labeled as A console noob, I really hate self entitled fan boys who rage for the sake of RAGING and are never satisfied with anything. The level of stupidity and flawed thinking that goes on In some ppls minds is astonishing!

-First off... Crytek is a company and like any company the main goal is to make $$MONEY$$!!

-They are not your friends--they owe U NOTHING!!

-I'm sick and tired of people throwing around the word PORT like some cheap hoker on the street!

-everything is a PC you ASS Monkeys!!-- console is a stripped down PC with better security *PERIOD*

-There's technically no such thing as a Console Port since EVERY **** THING is coded on a **** PC!!!

-(all is one and one is all)Android=stripped down PC/Mac_iPad=stripped down PC/XBOX360=STRIPPED DOWN PC!!!--Are you catching on now OP?

I have a PC that i use for 3D Modeling & animations in Maya. I know the hard work that goes into these games and the long hours that get put into making them, It's not easy putting a game like that together. I game on my PC/XBox/PS3/Wii &PSP when I'm not In school, working or animating. I have everything I want plus more without even asking 'cause I got it like that.

My Point Is this... Since PC is superior to consoles because It can always upgrade to better hardware, Does that make ME better than you?--because I have a better house than you?--a better car?--a hotter girlfriend?--or the fact that I can spend more money in an hour than your middle class ass will ever make In a lifetime?--Tell me OP... I got all the necessary hardware--am I better than You??

Fighting biching and complaining over Insignificant ****... and yeah, I did play the original Crysis/Warhead with Optimum Graphics... It was breathtaking to say the least(It reminded me of Rambo 'First Blood')-- But like the rational ppl said before... PC gamers pirated and barely supported the game with the only thing that a company cares about MONEY-- Bottom line... no If's and's or But's so just STOP IT

Crysis 2 isn't a console port

lolwut? Nice troll bro but its been done before, so 0/10 for lack of effort. Now go away. I don't care what you have to say. I would like a reason from a developer, not an idiot troll that has NO clue what they are talking about.

He's not trolling you **** idiot. Ports=Cut and paste. This isn't how Crysis 2 was made, it was made ground up for every platform simultanously but with constraints to ensure that it works for the weakest platform (360). Then the more powerful platforms get their featrues through polishes (which is to be completed through patches and updates since Crytek wasn't given enough time by EA to finish the game)..

You're just an impatient ****. It's not laziness because Crytek literally worked their asses of so hard that when the leak happened they became mentally disturbed for the next 2 weeks. It's not greed because they already got LOTSA money from the Microsoft partnership and don't show signs of greed at all. And it's not a port because well, I just explained it.

By jamesworkshop saying Crysis 2 is not a port, he is right. He's not trolling, and yes, what he had said has also been said before....said before by me, on another thread called "Why you should still support Crytek" and I pretty much gave PURE INDISPUTABLE FACTS AND REASONS proving that Crysis 2 is not a port and that real fans need to be patient and wait.

You're not a true fan. And FYI, Crytek already have a post on the forums stating community contact is difficult, so for you to ask them a direct question by making this thread, is totally stupid and make you a retard. Lol, get the **** off the internet; odds are, you haven't even reached the age of 17+ on the "M" rating slapped RIGHT ON the game box. **** ridiculous.

I love how anybody with an opposite opinion is automatically labeled as A console noob, I really hate self entitled fan boys who rage for the sake of RAGING and are never satisfied with anything. The level of stupidity and flawed thinking that goes on In some ppls minds is astonishing!

-First off... Crytek is a company and like any company the main goal is to make $$MONEY$$!!

-They are not your friends--they owe U NOTHING!!

-I'm sick and tired of people throwing around the word PORT like some cheap hoker on the street!

-everything is a PC you ASS Monkeys!!-- console is a stripped down PC with better security *PERIOD*

-There's technically no such thing as a Console Port since EVERY **** THING is coded on a **** PC!!!

-(all is one and one is all)Android=stripped down PC/Mac_iPad=stripped down PC/XBOX360=STRIPPED DOWN PC!!!--Are you catching on now OP?

I have a PC that i use for 3D Modeling & animations in Maya. I know the hard work that goes into these games and the long hours that get put into making them, It's not easy putting a game like that together. I game on my PC/XBox/PS3/Wii &PSP when I'm not In school, working or animating. I have everything I want plus more without even asking 'cause I got it like that.

My Point Is this... Since PC is superior to consoles because It can always upgrade to better hardware, Does that make ME better than you?--because I have a better house than you?--a better car?--a hotter girlfriend?--or the fact that I can spend more money in an hour than your middle class ass will ever make In a lifetime?--Tell me OP... I got all the necessary hardware--am I better than You??

Fighting biching and complaining over Insignificant ****... and yeah, I did play the original Crysis/Warhead with Optimum Graphics... It was breathtaking to say the least(It reminded me of Rambo 'First Blood')-- But like the rational ppl said before... PC gamers pirated and barely supported the game with the only thing that a company cares about MONEY-- Bottom line... no If's and's or But's so just STOP IT


You're right in some aspects and wrong in others. I mainly want to point out how you said it's impossible to have ports. You are wrong. There are ports that are possible; they are platform ports. If I code a 360 game on PC for example, I coded it ON my PC but with the 360 code. If I want to port the game, I'd CUT the original 360 code, paste it onto PC, change it up a bit so it works for PC just good enough and sell it. Essentially, I'd be cutting and pasting, not building from ground up all over again.

Crysis 2 though, was built ground up simuletanously on all platforms. That's a key feature to the CryEngine 3.

Shelledfade, I can't quite understand if you're being serious or not, because the answer seems quite obvious. Crysis 2 is a console port because first game didn't sell too well while being a pc exclusive, so they decided to finally start making money off consoles too.

I stopped reading here. That's no excuse to noobify the living **** out of the pc version. Tell me I'm wrong.


Wait... Wait! Did I sound like I'm DEFENDING them? Oh my I probably did. I DO FRIGGIN' IN NO WAY NOT DEFENDING THEM. I'm pissed to no limits and not going to buy their games until they show me a real quality product. I just said what the real reason behind the port is.

It's not a port and I don't even have to prove it.

http://www.google.com/search?q=CryEngine+3&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Research and you'll see why the game isn't a port. If you don't support Crytek, you're obviously not a true fan. Why are you still on the forums? To troll like a no life piece of **** ****?

Most people who pirate will purchase the game if they like it. Other wise they won't waste thier time playing something they don't like. A portion of people who pirate couldn't afford to buy it anyways so there are no lost sales.

I'll simply disagree. The facts also tend to prove this wrong. People steal games, music, movies, because they can. Why would anyone who downloads a full funtional game, play it from start to finish, then go out and pay $50-$60.
They don't. It was predicted by many gaming magazines and website years ago when Pirating was taking off that it could lead to deveolpers moving away from the PC and towards consoles if it didn't stop.

There are plenty of gaming sites and magazines that review games. Surely people could find at least one site they agree with, instead of pirating. While it's hard to prove. How do you prove that Pirates every buy games ? Cliffy B stated they saw tons of Unreal keys that they never issued being created by key Gens and used.

Crytek saw (and stated) with Crysis 1 that they saw far more more stolen copies than sold copies. Pirates have taken ever reason to make a PC only game away. You can continue to defend or excuse pirating, and we'll continue down the path similar to what we're seeing now. I said it in 2004 and I'm saying it again now. Pirating will make (or continueto make) the PC an undesireable platform, especially for any Big Budget games.

You can use the their all greedy Corporate types arguments all you want, it's not going to change the direction PC is headed.