When I played Fallout 3 I used to listen to Enclave radio from time to time - and the president of the Enclave was talking about how it is sad that the USA is now a wasteland.

He refers to the old American lifestyle and makes reference to baseball games - I don't know if any of you can remember.

What I want to know is how on earth does he know what the old American past was like and how would anyone know when the game is set hundreds of years later after the war - nobody would know unless they read from books etc but we read about history in real life and dont know for sure how it actually was.

Can anyone explain anything I maybe missing?

Thanks

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use the fallout wikia as well..

Given that the rules of Baseball have been codified in countless books, and games have been filmed countless times there's little chance of Baseball becoming like the races at the Circus Maximus.

Now that would explain it - thanks Orochi Mao Sairen - I am fairly new to the Fallout series I am certainly not a Fallout veteran lol. So I am learning all the time.

you would know it if you played through fallout 3, not totally ignoring what happens around you.

Maybe he has not gotten that far yet...
Although that was the first red flag that had me thinking something was up with Eden

Thanks for pointing it out dike dastardly unlike mezo6 who automatically assumed that I was being lazy. Your right I am playing the games back to front. I played F3 at one point and didnt finish it and left it for a while and then bought FNV and decided to fully complete F3 now.

Books and magazines could be found with (likely incomplete) information about the game. So it is entirely possible that the people of the wastes might have some idea of what the game is about.. but get a lot of details wrong on it.

As a side note: I encountered a funny thing while playing FO3 once, sneaking up on the ball field near Arefu. There are two raiders that hang out there, and normally when you run up in range, they charge right for you. Well I decided to sneak up and snipe them this time through.. So I pulled up my sniper rifle from quite far away, sighting in... and saw one of the raiders was running bases! I watched for a few minutes and he was running around a diamond pattern where all the bases would be. So they must have at least some idea about the game...

I just wonder why Eden mentions his idyllic pretend childood. If he wanted people to think he was human, wouldn't it make sense not to say stuff that makes him sound like his childhood occured 250 years ago?

I figured he was a ghoul or supermutant using a voice modulator to sound more human or at the very least have been in some form of stasis all these years, and that he actually did live back in the old days. I never expected the truth.

Some of the wastelanders did think he was just an old recording, even though he mentions more current events.

It's probably a matter of what data he's giving priority to when building advertisemants. In this case, priority goes to American culture over wasteland reality. In every case he does that, actually.

Also theres a big deal in fallout 3 about getting pre war books for the BOS, so id expect that most of the organised groups would have stripped books and computers for any pre war data.

Any or all of several possible reasons.

Note towns like Andale and Tenpenny Tower- residents in such places already willfully live the fantasy that "everything is just fine" and wouldn't bat an eye.

With their resources, the Enclave should be aware just how limited significant long-range communication is- taking advantage, they could claim to be operating from the unbombed "just like the old days" utopia just over the hill, and many would be none the wiser.

Just flat-out propaganda mode: tell'em what they want to hear, and hope those who willingly ignore the discrepancies and "drink the Kool-Aid" (Nathan, anyone?) outnumber the pragmatic naysayers.

You're not missing anything, that's the entire point of his speeches, they're to show just how unrealistic and out-of-touch he is.