since curiass and greaves are merged can we still wear normal pants, i dont want to be going around with in some eleven skirt armour without pants

i think only Armour is merged and clothes is still separate


3) Is armor handled like in Oblivion (with each body part being welded together) or in Morrowind (with each body part separate)? Will you be able to wear both clothes and armor at the same time?
Matt: The armor system is very similar to Oblivion’s. The main difference is that the upper and lower body armors, the cuirass and greaves, have been combined into one piece. This helps create armor styles that have the look we needed for Skyrim. In most of the Nordic designs we created, the upper armor would completely cover the lower armor, making it unnecessary. We get much better visual results combining those pieces, and it renders a lot faster too, so we can put more people on screen, so that was an easy tradeoff for us. We can also make a lot more armors now, so the number and variation types are more than we’ve ever had.

So basically its was for visual results Armour looks better Etc. so there will likely be separated clothing?

You mean wear ''armour'' and pants? Not going to happen... prolly

We still don't know if we can wear clothes under armour, I highly doubt it though.

hmmm

we shall w8 and see

No. You`ll be forced to run around killing dragons in your underwear.

If we can still wear pants, they'll probably be chosen for us depending on what top we pick. :mellow:

in this picture his knee caps are showing
http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/screenshots/dragon-fight/

in this there is some type of green pants covering his knees
http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/screenshots/horse/

and yes the Armour is the same

in this picture there is a lute player who looks like his shirt and pants are separate, but to the left there is a female dunmer who has armour which looks merged

I'd rather not wear pants but now Todd is forcing me to... Thanks a lot, Todd.

Glad they combined the two,less of a chance to add ugly leg gear that only boosts stats.

No one knows exactly. :shrug: I just hope pants and shirts are seperate.

There is absolutely no reason why pants and shirts would be merged. Greaves are not "armor pants" >_>

I believe that the clothes will all be seperate but the armor is indeed merged. And, judging from the one picture where the Dovakhiin is wearing a vest under his armor, who knows..? Perhaps we will indeed be able to wear clothes under our armor...

Well... here is, as Zappa's dog said, the crux of the biscuit:

Either pants and shirts will be combined in the same way as cuirass and greaves, or the claim that the combining of cuirass and greaves was done at least in part in order to allow rendering more NPCs on-screen at a given time is bull [censored].

Perhaps this is all just because the of the fact that armor is generally much more intricate than clothing... That may be why they gave us the whole "more NPCs " and "rendering" spiel.

Apparently we get less NPCs if they weren't combined, so I doubt it.
I guess my PC just can't handle all those taxing extra armor slots :rolleyes:

Agreed, I hope we still have the option to mix and match shirts and pants.

No pants.
EVER

The armor isn't the same. In the first pick the front and back are merged like a vest and it looks like leather. In the second picture the armor looks like it's made of metal and the front is clipped to the back.

no its not.

huh... you're right about those pictures... man, who freakin' knows...

It's not, but I'm going to be an optimist here for a change and say that we can wear pants + armor, maybe even skirts and shirts.

The armour isn't the same. He's wearing what looks like iron on the horse, and a fur skirt with the dragon... Completely different dude.

We probly can, I'm just not going to.

Its completely different armor sorry, the one on the horse he is wearing iron like from the 4 min demo and the one fighting the dragon is different like the one in the trailer

I am sure hoping we can wear clothing under our armor like in Morrowind. I want my character to be realistic. You wouldn't want to wear armor without clothes underneath so Dovahkiin shouldn't have to be naked under his/her's.