Can the races in Skyrim look like..you know..different races

Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:27 am

One of the things I loved about Morrowind was the fact that different races looked different. You saw a Dunmer across the room, you knew it was a dunmer. You saw an Altmer in a dungeon a good 50 feet away, you knew it was an Altmer. Either an Altmer, or a Giraffe! And there were no Giraffes in Morrowind.

And, big surprise here, one of the things I hated about Oblivion was that every race in the game looked bloody identical except skin tone. And even THAT wasn't a giveaway half of the time because of the ridiculousness of the facegen in Oblivion. You could make a Redguard look just like a Dunmer. A Nord look exactly like an Imperial.
Now, yes, 3 races did look differently. Orcs, Khajiit, and Argonians. But just because of aesthetics. Fins, fur, and pig noses. Big deal.

News Flash:
Asians don't look anything like Native Americans. Hell, even Germans look differently from Native Americans. People from Sweden don't look like Jamaicans, even if you changed their skin color to look exactly the same. The bone structure, the facial features, the texture of hair, all of these things play a part in being recognizable as a race.

In Oblivion, you didn't know what race anyone was until you talked to them and heard the same voice actor for 4 people, and then you're still kind of thrown off because of the voice acting re-usage! Blah!

I think that Wood Elves should look just like that; Wood Elves. Not short Imperials/Nords/White Dunmers/Bretons. You see what I'm getting at? Bretons look very, very different in concept art/descriptions from other in game and lore libraries. They don't look like short white dunmer. They look like Bretons.

Do you agree? Should each race have it's own distinct look to them? Race traits of sorts?
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Americans? America is a vastly multicultural nation. You get all sorts of appearances there.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:08 am

American isnt a race, unless you count the natives. I know plenty of Americans that look like Asians... mostly because they are Asian.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:24 pm

Are you people really pulling hairs about my usage of the word "americans"? That's not what this thread is about. It's about video games for God's sake.
Pretty sure you know what I'm talking about. And for the record, I'm talking about Native Americans.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 pm

Big yes here. I kept confusing High Elves and Wood Elves...

Also, the same 4 voice actors...essentially NPCs would be conversing with themselves...lol.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:04 am

I agree with the sentiment but you just chose a bad point of reference because when you say "American" most people assume and American citizen, not the natives that consist of a minuscule minority of its inhabitants.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:06 pm

Though the two people who have responded raise a valid point, but it is rather painfully obvious you were refering to a stereotypical caucasian. And the races all looked pretty bad in Oblivion tbh haha, but it was cool tech for the time and I managed to make some really unique and attractive characters with the facegen so it wasn't all bad.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:17 pm



Also, the same 4 voice actors...essentially NPCs would be conversing with themselves...lol.


That's a good point. I'm sure they're going to fix that this time around, it's been five years and they have a considerable larger amount of resources at their disposal.
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Though the two people who have responded raise a valid point, but it is rather painfully obvious you were refering to a stereotypical caucasian. And the races all looked pretty bad in Oblivion tbh haha, but it was cool tech for the time and I managed to make some really unique and attractive characters with the facegen so it wasn't all bad.

I agree, the facegen was good at the time of Oblivions release. And it'd still be good, if it wasn't for the random button that made 90% of the NPC's in Oblivion look like the bottom of my ass.
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I agree, the facegen was good at the time of Oblivions release. And it'd still be good, if it wasn't for the random button that made 90% of the NPC's in Oblivion look like the bottom of my ass.

Hahahahahahahahaha well put.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:26 pm

That's a good point. I'm sure they're going to fix that this time around, it's been five years and they have a considerable larger amount of resources at their disposal.


And I also hope they worked on keeping the same voice...it was sure weird the first time I talked to a beggar, bringing up "The Gray Fox". He proceeded to reply "He's a dangerous man..." or something along those lines, while sounding like the nearby Anvil guard. LOL.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:42 am

Though the two people who have responded raise a valid point, but it is rather painfully obvious you were refering to a stereotypical caucasian.

They actually weren't. They were reffering to Native Americans. They said as much further down. Though that certainly sounds odd when the next thing they say is "Hell, even Germans look different from Americans" when they're of a vastly different ethnicity, so it's hardly unusual.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:38 pm

They actually weren't. They were reffering to Native Americans. They said as much further down.

Reguardless the nitpicking accomplished very little, and it would have worked either way. Especially considering enough differences obviously exist between them for you to nit pick once again and correct me ^.-
But fair enough, my bad.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:59 pm

Yes, I want this feature that has already been confirmed for Skyrim.

Remind me again why every day there are two or three topics where people are demanding things that were confirmed a month or more ago?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:27 pm

One of the things I loved about Morrowind was the fact that different races looked different. You saw a Dunmer across the room, you knew it was a dunmer. You saw an Altmer in a dungeon a good 50 feet away, you knew it was an Altmer. Either an Altmer, or a Giraffe! And there were no Giraffes in Morrowind.

And, big surprise here, one of the things I hated about Oblivion was that every race in the game looked bloody identical except skin tone. And even THAT wasn't a giveaway half of the time because of the ridiculousness of the facegen in Oblivion. You could make a Redguard look just like a Dunmer. A Nord look exactly like an Imperial.
Now, yes, 3 races did look differently. Orcs, Khajiit, and Argonians. But just because of aesthetics. Fins, fur, and pig noses. Big deal.

News Flash:
Asians don't look anything like Native Americans. Hell, even Germans look differently from Native Americans. People from Sweden don't look like Jamaicans, even if you changed their skin color to look exactly the same. The bone structure, the facial features, the texture of hair, all of these things play a part in being recognizable as a race.

In Oblivion, you didn't know what race anyone was until you talked to them and heard the same voice actor for 4 people, and then you're still kind of thrown off because of the voice acting re-usage! Blah!

I think that Wood Elves should look just like that; Wood Elves. Not short Imperials/Nords/White Dunmers/Bretons. You see what I'm getting at? Bretons look very, very different in concept art/descriptions from other in game and lore libraries. They don't look like short white dunmer. They look like Bretons.

Do you agree? Should each race have it's own distinct look to them? Race traits of sorts?



Well if you actually would watch some videos, you would know they are working on exactly this.

You would also know that you can add tattoos and scars to your character in the creation process.

Maybe that last part was off topic...but it was interesting.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:56 am

Yes, I want this feature that has already been confirmed for Skyrim.

Remind me again why every day there are two or three topics where people are demanding things that were confirmed a month or more ago?

If I had to place a bet it would primarily be the result of people sharing their opinions on some sort of public access discussion section on a website. Especially since little is known or confirmed about the game I would imagine there would be little typed and posted on such a "forum", if you will, besides theorycraft, speculation, and opinions rampant. Good thing no such feature exists on this website, could you imagine that?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:20 pm

They actually weren't. They were reffering to Native Americans. They said as much further down. Though that certainly sounds odd when the next thing they say is "Hell, even Germans look different from Americans" when they're of a vastly different ethnicity, so it's hardly unusual.

Seriously, is the nitpicking needed? I've already commented on it, corrected it, and have already asked you to stop talking about it. It's not what this thread is about.
Either say something that has to do with the topic, or stop posting about how you view the word "americans". I really don't care.
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If I had to place a bet it would primarily be the result of people sharing their opinions on some sort of public access discussion section on a website. Especially since little is known or confirmed about the game I would imagine there would be little typed and posted on such a "forum", if you will, besides theorycraft, speculation, and opinions rampant. Good thing no such feature exists on this website, could you imagine that?

That's cute. But you'd think if people would go to the trouble to type out a big post demanding something, especially something so common that it's been posted before and could easily be found with the "search" function, that they would do a tiny bit of research to see if it's been brought up or mentioned before. And lo and behold, it's already been confirmed that the races are going to be different and there will be a bigger emphasis on making races more significantly different from each other.
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That's cute. But you'd think if people would go to the trouble to type out a big post demanding something, especially something so common that it's been posted before and could easily be found with the "search" function, that they would do a tiny bit of research to see if it's been brought up or mentioned before. And lo and behold, it's already been confirmed that the races are going to be different and there will be a bigger emphasis on making races more significantly different from each other.

I heard no one could ever say the same thing twice, never, ever, never ever, on the internet, without it losing all validity and truth.
Confirm/deny
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/LA2-NSRW-1-0149.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid_race

Native Americans do look like asians, because native americans are asians. Sheesh.

Anyway. The fact is that there are not that many races of mankind that are completely distinguishable from one another even if the skintone was the same.

The only "categories" I can even think of that are distinguishable on physical features are African, Caucasian/Persian/Arab/Indus, and Mongoloid (asians and indiginous n/s americans).
Even groups that seem like they are clearly distinct, such as Celts vs Sicilians really aren't. Hair color and skin tone are the primary ways you tell them apart. Take that away and you aren't left with much.

You would be astonished to find out how hard it would be for you to distinguish between any two races if someone photoshoped the clothing, hair, and skin to all be identical. You would be stuck 90% of the time. Most of the impressions we get about where someone are from come from their cultural displays. Jewelry, clothing, speech intonation and accents, skin color, eye color, and hair color are all the big components. Remove them and you are pretty much left with bone and muscle structure.

As far as I know there are only two or three anthropological differences between the races of mankind.

EDIT:
Now I'm not saying that we shouldn't see some cool variation on the races in Skyrim. Far from it, I think variation in video games is incredible awesome and makes for a much more interesting experience.

BUT, making the parallels with the actual races of men is incorrect. The "races" in TES are much closer to "species" than races.
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^Oh, hey, look at that. Someone else seriously nitpicking a thread and posting absolutely nothing of value to the topic at hand because they think they need to teach people about how people in real life look alike.
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/LA2-NSRW-1-0149.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid_race

I disagree. They have similar aspects, but do not in general look the same.

http://cfsworldmusic.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sitting_Bull.jpg/44348587/Sitting_Bull.jpg

http://www.extrospection.com/archives/2004/01/133_3360_ChineseMan.jpg

http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/images/firstnations/teachers_guide/inuit/man_labrador_inuit.jpg look somewhat closer to their East Asian origin.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:39 pm

actually Native Americans ancestors originated from Asia and if you watch Shanghai noon, you will realize that Jackie Chan can really pull Native American well. I am Asian and people think I am mexican http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XeNiygqgefE#t=183s
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^Oh, hey, look at that. Someone else seriously nitpicking a thread and posting absolutely nothing of value to the topic at hand because they think they need to teach people about how people in real life look alike.


Don't say stupid things and I wouldn't feel the need to correct you. Fact is that you brought up the comparison to real life. There is a lot of evidence that you are wrong and I wanted to point that out. If you don't like it, don't say things that are demonstrably incorrect.

I also contributed to your thread by pointing out how games and real life are different and that the variation in game would be nice.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:59 pm

Oh for God's sake.
I've asked you two to stop posting irrelevant remarks. Stop.
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