I love using magic so this is a moot point for me, but I am thinking more of the people who don't like to use magic. So I know you odn't need to use magika, but how about Dragon Shouts? That is still like using magic spells or what not, so for people who don't want to use magic, do you think you can still continue playing Skyrim without using Dragonshouts?

Does anyone know, will there be times you HAVE to use Dragonshouts or it will always be optional and not have to? Again, I am just curious about it. I wonder why if this is one of the reasons why custom spell making is gone, so Dragonshouts don't become irelvent.

Also, is it known how a Dragonshout is made? Do you get to choose what you get when you kill a dragon, or do you have to kill a certian type of dragon to get a certian kind of dragonshout?

For the people who don't like using magic, will you be using Dragonshouts or not and why?

I view dragon shouts as its own entity. Could be that we need them to progress through the main quest, but who knows.

Hm... Dragon Shouts are more like Greater Powers (think Birth/Jone Stones from Oblivion). They'll be very powerful, but I very much doubt they'll be absolutely necessary.

And the whole killing dragon absorby soul thing is uncertain anyway, right now - but I think there have been words said about finding shouts on walls in dungeons.

Finally, yes, I will be using Dragon Shouts. They sound very, very fun

I'll probably use physical and combat enhancing shouts like Slow-Time and Speed on my Warrior, and any others that are like that.

And they really aren't classified as magic, but if you're too worried just use ones like I listed above.

Dragonshouts can be found in ruins, where the dragons scratched their laguage in the wall. Read it and you'll learn a word of a dragon shout. A dragon shout consists of three words, each extra word makes it more powerfull. Example: Tier 1: Fus Tier 2: Fus Roh Tier 3: Fus Roh Dah. The third and final tier takes longer to refresh. Rumors: you absord the dragon souls, by doing that allows you to do dragonshouts.

I would think that you wouldn't HAVE to use dragon shouts, I think they are useful rewards for killing a dragon, like the sigal stones after destroying a oblivion gate.
Also I might be a bit wrong here but I think this is how you make a dragon shout.
1. You explore ruins of ancient dragon temple, and on the walls are the words of the dragon shout, I don't know if you get one word per temple or all on one wall, (all on one wall would make sense as we don't have a number on the amount of dragon shouts).
2. You kill a dragon and take it's soul, as seen in the gameplay trailer, they dissolve to their bones, giving you it's soul. You then unlock the dragon shout's power depending on what dragon you kill.
Oh! And if you learn all the words to the shout, you can hold down the shout button and say the whole shout, as far as I know, the cooldown is long.
I may be of it off but I know temples are involved in some way. I think I should read and watch those interviews again...
Also I will be using dragon shouts, have you heard some of them? Thunderstorm? Whirlwind spirit? They sound really fun.

Dragonshouts don't count. They are more like superpowers. You wouldn't call Superman a mage.

This is not really a question one can know the answer to for certain without playing the game, but if I were to speculate, I don't expect dragon shouts to be necessary if you don't do the main quest, because they're primarily related to the plot about being the Dovahkiin and slaying dragons, so I wouldn't expect them to be necessary if you choose to ignore that aspect of the game. But whether one can complete the main quest without using shouts is another question, since they are a plot point in the main quest, it may be that some situations will require dragon shouts, I can't be sure, only time will tell.

Regardless, if I don't play the main quest, I might not use dragon shouts, but for characters who do, I think I'll use them even if I don't use any of the magic skills, because as I see it, dragon shouts aren't really the same thing as the magic schools, for one thing, dragon shouts are an important part of being Dragonborn, whereas magic skills are what makes a mage, so if I'm the Dragonborn, it's natural that I'd use dragon shouts, but if I'm not a spell casting character, I wouldn't cast spells.



I think it's already confirmed you absorb dragon souls, and this is connected to learning shouts, although it seems like the messages we get on how this ties into the matter and works with the thing about walls. Perhaps absorbing dragon souls enhances your ability to use shouts or unlocks the ability to learn new ones, but reading the walls is necessary to actually learn them, I'm not sure.

Shouts are tied to a separate cool down and don't use magicka. I'm thinking you'll need to use at least one shout to complete the MQ since we are Dovahkiin.

I find dragonshouts a little offputting. I mean with stuff like firebreath, lightning storm and icicles it seems like destruction magic is pretty redundant.

I think Dragonshouts will play a large role in fighting dragons, as that is why they fear you, you can use and patch their power. I think (hoping) dragon fights will be extremely hard to win without using some shouts.

I highly doubt that the practice would be forced upon the character. On that note, I'm probably going to abuse the role.

Playing the game without any magic? Not recommended but will definitley add some challenge to the game. I imagine it will be almost impossible though to not use any spells and/ or dragonshouts at least a few times during the course of the game.

Wouldn't say that, dragon shouts have a long cooldown, and some effects from whirlwind spirit and fus-ro-dah you can't get in destruction or other magic schools.
Even though the others such as fire-breath and icicles might make a few destruction spells redundant, just don't forget that you won't be casting them as much as you could with a destruction spell.

I hope it's plausible to play in Skyrim without using heal spells. If you play as a pure warrior/stealth character you put yourself at a major disadvantage in Oblivion by not using restore health spells.

Shouts come out of your mouth though and not your hands. So much cool shouting fire in someones face than using your hands to cast a fire spell I think.

I didn't use magic in previous TES games, and have no intention of doing so in Skyrim. Or dragonshouts for that matter. All I want is straightforward sword and bow combat.

I will be using dragon shouts, it's not magic.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/01/20/skyrim-s-dragon-shouts.aspx



Where's the uncertain part? Todd seems pretty certain here. :shrug:

After absorbing a soul, we'll have the ability to learn shouts from the word walls.

I wouldn't say that now, for one thing, dragon shouts have cool down effects, so you can't use them repeatedly, whereas if spells are like in past games, then you can use them as long as you have magicka, and I'd imagine that the direct damage dragon shouts are somewhat less versatile than similar destruction spells since with those you get the whole being able to use the same spell in different ways to get different effects thing, destruction magic may also have other advantages compared to dragon shouts with similar effects, I wouldn't be surprised for example if destruction spells do more damage than direct damage dragon shouts, it would seem to make sense since any player character can use dragon shouts, while you need to raise your magic skills to use magic.

In the end, having two mechanics that can achieve similar results doesn't automatically make one of them redundant, that only happens when there's no reason to even consider the alternative, which I hope won't be the case here.

I'm iffy on the whole thing. I like the idea that my magic-weilding character can use magic and that some pure warrior can't. Now that pure warrior has access to all kinds of magic, including slowing down time e.t.c.

Of course there are definite differences. But, to claim that dragon shounts aren't magic is a claim I would view as comical.



I would much rather 'dragon shouts' just be scrapped and be implemented as spells in 'dragon magic' or something.


But it's only a minor niggle.

Uh, yeah. I quoted Todd as saying that, in response to someone else saying



And you're telling me what I told them why? :blink:

I was reinforcing what you said.

for most of the game i would imagine. however im hoping that dragon shouts are absolutely necessary to fight dragons. if they can be brought down by just arrows and spells then i would question why the guards and mages dont just killl them. kind of like that issue where a level 2 guy in oblivion had to close all the gates while level 20 guards just stood around with there thumbs up their butts. :rolleyes: