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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:21 am

You know this is Liberal propoganda? If they get in power they will do nothing to change anything, and in fact actually make it worse. Also all you are doing is giving the Liberals your email so they can spam you if you do check off the boexes, so be carefull "signing" this petition.

*sigh* Like we don't know, but you suggest an alternative?
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A Lo RIkIton'ton
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:36 pm

*sigh* Like we don't know, but you suggest an alternative?

No, but I would hate for someone to suffer the endless spam that they will be recieving. I am hoping they reverse thier decision, and the goverment steps in if the CRTC doesn't.

It's quite funny, how so many young people don't vote, I wonder if this topic would actually get young people (old people too) to go out and vote then.
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Manny(BAKE)
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:27 am

Welcome to the club, Canada! We can fight the good fight together, ey?
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Charleigh Anderson
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:22 am

Welcome to the club, Canada! We can fight the good fight together, ey?

Can't wait for the day Australia has fibre optic internet almost everywhere. When we do, we'll finally be able to be really, really smug at Americans ^_^.

Hopefully certain people won't get their way and leave us with a band-aided network instead of infrastructure that will last us decades...
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

I switched over from Bell to a company that already has a capped bandwidth system in place. The speed is roughly 25 times the speed I was paying for Bell Sympatico.

I was paying 30$ for bells 250kb/sec. Now i'm on Cogeco Cable and its 30$ for 7mb/sec

So far, i'm happy. They even have a little meter that I can check to see how i'm doing. :)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:20 am

Well we get capped. We get 60GB. 30 on peak 30 off peak. $15 for 20GB if you want a top up. They don't charge if we go over the limit either, we just get the speed lowered to dial up speed. Its not bad but man oh man I would give so much for unlimited Internet. You Americans and Europeans are spoiled rotten.


Indeed. I've had metered internet my whole life and I've survived. Hell, for several years I was on ADSL with about 6gigs a month.

Interesting to see now there's another country and technologically backward as Australia though.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:41 am

My first ISP was McGill University (dial up) and you were alotted 4 hours (!) per month. If you wanted additional hours they were .50 each. I used to have to open all my email in a new window, let it load up and shut down the connection to save hours.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:00 am

Well we're winning the fight in Canada so far, but it probably wont see anything done until elections. Though that's a forbidden topic so let's just not go there.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:08 pm

i actually brought this up in one with some of my friends when were discussing how different governments view rights. someone was talking about how canada was so much better than the US cause of their free healthcare. i showed them their internet plan and they shut up right away. :) i guess internet trumps healthcare. :teehee:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:53 am

i actually brought this up in one with some of my friends when were discussing how different governments view rights. someone was talking about how canada was so much better than the US cause of their free healthcare. i showed them their internet plan and they shut up right away. :) i guess internet trumps healthcare. :teehee:


Especially when said healthcare can often leave people waiting years for surgical procedures and/or various tests. Have a couple of friends up in Canada, none of them can stand their Healthcare system.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:03 am

Can't wait for the day Australia has fibre optic internet almost everywhere. When we do, we'll finally be able to be really, really smug at Americans ^_^.


We're getting ours in July, now our Council is run by normal people again, instead of propagandists. :celebration:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:48 am

Especially when said healthcare can often leave people waiting years for surgical procedures and/or various tests. Have a couple of friends up in Canada, none of them can stand their Healthcare system.


If they need attention for something life threatening and they can't get it in Canadia they can go elsewhere and seek medical attention and the Canadian govt will pay for it.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:55 pm

If they need attention for something life threatening and they can't get it in Canadia they can go elsewhere and seek medical attention and the Canadian govt will pay for it.


is that true...........if it is i think i may have just found a way to boost the US economy. we need to start running advertisemants for canadians to come down here and use our health care system.......hell we will move them to the front of the line. there are like couple million canadians up there so if we can get them to come down here imagine the money flowing in from canada.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:34 am

Well we get capped. We get 60GB. 30 on peak 30 off peak. $15 for 20GB if you want a top up. They don't charge if we go over the limit either, we just get the speed lowered to dial up speed. Its not bad but man oh man I would give so much for unlimited Internet. You Americans and Europeans are spoiled rotten.


correction, the Japanese are spoiled rotten. they get the same speeds, unlimited bandwidth, AT OVER HALF THE COST! What costs us $40 cost them and equivalent of $15.

I pay $40 for 15MB/unlimited.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:14 am

i feel for my canadian bros and sisters
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:03 pm

correction, the Japanese are spoiled rotten. they get the same speeds, unlimited bandwidth, AT OVER HALF THE COST! What costs us $40 cost them and equivalent of $15.

I pay $40 for 15MB/unlimited.

You can thank the http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/en/24258/Japan+Optic+Fiber+Internet.html
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:11 am

And the fight continues. So let's keep fighting the good fight my fellow Canadians! Make sure to view the videos linked at the bottom, it's just ridiculous what's going on!

You’ve helped make history and move politics by signing OpenMedia.ca’s Stop The Meter Petition. You’ve probably also seen the recent reports: Canadians across the country are battling with phone companies over excessive data fees.

The CBC's Marketplace just released a revealing report called “Canada's Worst Cell Phone Bill” that finds damning evidence that Canadians are being unfairly gouged by big phone and cable companies.

One person was charged over $15,000 for a data service that experts say cost the provider only $4!


Bell Canada and others are copying this unfair and outrageous billing model, and applying it to Internet use.

The CBC’s report tells a story that could mobilize Canadians that are fed up with being gouged.

As a federal election looms, we have a unique moment to send a message to decision makers in Ottawa.

We need to reach half-a-million petition signers to make big telecom price gouging an election issue. We’re almost there and you can help by taking the steps below:

Step 1. Share the CBC video clip using Facebook, Twitter, and/or Email.

Step 2. Share our petition on Facebook, Twitter, and Email. Our Stop the Meter petition is an undeniable symbol of Canadian opposition to the predatory practices of Big Telecom. Every share helps.

With your help we’ve had great success: getting all the political parties on our side, forcing the CRTC to review its UBB rules, and even forcing the CRTC to open its closed-door meetings.

But we need to do more to take on the key structural issues that enable phone and cable companies to repeatedly gouge Canadians with impunity.

Clearly new telecom fees are about padding big telecoms bottom line at the expense of our personal and family budgets. OpenMedia.ca has learned that Bell’s CEO has even admitted that applying usage-based billing is really about the telecom giant “monetizing” the increase in online video usage.

Many of you have dealt with the cold, unaccountable, labyrinth of bureaucracy that is big phone and cable company customer service. Stop The Meter has become a rallying cry against this mistreatment of Canadians.

This is not just about consumer choice; it’s also about basic human decency and self-determination.

If we don't succeed in making this an election issue, the opportunity could slip through our fingers and we'll be fighting over Internet bills like many do with phone bills now.

Help us get half-a-million Canadians against a metered Internet so we can get public officials on record during the election. You can count on us to be there after the election to hold their feet to the fire.

Please share the CBC video clip using Facebook, Twitter, and Email.

Let’s keep the pressure on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsffmLcEqPo
http://action.cwa-union.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=7z5w%2BIGegwbzo18k3dtyn67jKoBopJls
http://action.cwa-union.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=P8qEZ6gAa%2FsE3slshr3ka67jKoBopJls
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:05 am

And the fight continues. So let's keep fighting the good fight my fellow Canadians! Make sure to view the videos linked at the bottom, it's just ridiculous what's going on!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsffmLcEqPo
http://action.cwa-union.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=7z5w%2BIGegwbzo18k3dtyn67jKoBopJls
http://action.cwa-union.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=P8qEZ6gAa%2FsE3slshr3ka67jKoBopJls

God that is just sickening. Good thing I don't have a cell phone, but now that we picked up some steam with the usage caps I wonder if we can keep it pushing forward.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:14 am

Man, I'd hate that. I am having trouble dealing with my internet just because it's normally slower than 1mbps. Cant imagine that download cap on top of it.

Good luck.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:08 am

I'm surprised at people's surprise. It has long been foretold in mainstream tech sites that both US and Canada were headed toward metered billing. This last decade was spent fighting the slowly evolving thing. Too little too late.

Why? Because it's far more profitable to squeeze out higher end users and doesn't require the investment into rolling out new technology to fit the public's bandwidth needs. If they are going to be allowed the monopolies they have and pursue this, may as well just make this a Democratic process and spread muni broadband all over Canada wherever they want it to force companies to really compete.

Also, Videotron has implemented monthly caps for what, 10 years now?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:35 am

I'm surprised at people's surprise. It has long been foretold in mainstream tech sites that both US and Canada were headed toward metered billing. This last decade was spent fighting the slowly evolving thing. Too little too late.

Why? Because it's far more profitable to squeeze out higher end users and doesn't require the investment into rolling out new technology to fit the public's bandwidth needs. If they are going to be allowed the monopolies they have and pursue this, may as well just make this a Democratic process and spread muni broadband all over Canada wherever they want it to force companies to really compete.

Also, Videotron has implemented monthly caps for what, 10 years now?

Yea it certainly will be too late with that attitude.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:04 pm

Yea it certainly will be too late with that attitude.

What attitude?
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Conor Byrne
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:23 am

What attitude?

The "roll over and die" attitude.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:22 am

The "roll over and die" attitude.

Which part was "roll over and die"? I thought I presented an alternative to combating this.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:48 am

Which part was "roll over and die"? I thought I presented an alternative to combating this.

Probably the "too little too late" bit. Personally, I agree with your idea o' spreadin' broadband all over the place. Elaborate further for a non-tech-minded hoobah like myself. Because anythin' that can punch Internet companies in the nuts is a-okay in my book.
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