Canada got the Shaft.

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:10 am

Well without further ado, here is a crap filled plan. Weeee! Good god my ISP is already announcing plans from 25 to 150 dollars a month. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/canada-gets-first-bitter-dose-of-metered-internet-billing.ars

25GB a month. Are you [censored] kidding me.... so I'm guessing 60 dollars for a measly 60GB a month or so. I know my ISP's top plan is 150 for 350GB a month, this is generally only for people with multiple computers.

A $1 for every GB over your limit. 2$ a GB if you go over on the high speed plan. Hahahah.
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Nathan Risch
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:58 am

Capping is fine. 15Mps up to 50GB and then 1Mbps after that is fine. Usage based billing is fine. If all you do is check eamils, it makes sense to pay $5 plus $2 per Gb. Required usage based billing at stupid prices is not imho.

Just thought I would share this:
http://i.imgur.com/M3G7f.png



The idea that is it only pirates that share huge quantities of data is no more. I watch a significant amount of stuff on-line. Probably 4 - 5 hours of high quality video a week. I usually have music streaming 12 hours a day and ever now and again I torrent a few Linux distos. I can imagine that a lot of other people are the same (minus the Linux distros)
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Jack Walker
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:07 am

what is the average internet usage of canadians? i thought you guys just looked up lake info for fishing and hunting season schedules.
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Isaac Saetern
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:05 am

Finished, if this doesn't get over turned well then it is a "precedent" for success. Let's try our capping of individual websites schemes.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:21 am

I have a 25Gb limit too per month.

To purchase extra gigabytes, 1Gb = $5.

Yeah, I try to stay under the limit.
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Stephanie Kemp
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:24 am

I'm not going to let this happen, at least not without some sort of fight. First step, pester local MP.
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Sarah MacLeod
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:02 am

We had this for a while now, about 2 years that I know of. Bell and Rogers have said the unlimited usages is gone, unless you were in the play from 3 years ago or older. For new customers the limit is 60gigabytes. Now hearing that it's going to be 25 gigs, is a bit surprising. I have never seen anywhere, that you get unlimited highspeed for $39.95. I have to pay over $50.00 a month for my service, and we don't even have the highest speed. Yeah both Bell and Rogers are looking into it and fixing it. :rolleyes:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:45 am

We had this for a while now, about 2 years that I know of. Bell and Rogers have said the unlimited usages is gone, unless you were in the play from 3 years ago or older. For new customers the limit is 60gigabytes. Now hearing that it's going to be 25 gigs, is a bit surprising. I have never seen anywhere, that you get unlimited highspeed for $39.95. I have to pay over $50.00 a month for my service, and we don't even have the highest speed. Yeah both Bell and Rogers are looking into it and fixing it. :rolleyes:



you can get unlimited for $40 in the US, but its only for a limited period of time. after that it goes up to $50 or $60 or more depending on the carrier.

you canadians should really start making babies.........they will eventually drive the costs down.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:40 am

I'm not going to let this happen, at least not without some sort of fight. First step, pester local MP.

If you are going to fight it, speaking with your money is loudest. Is any ISP in your area not implementing a cap? If so, switch to them. If your current ISP sees a bunch of early terminations, then they'll get scared.

Of course if all of the ISPs in your area are going to a cap-based system, it doesn't work.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:58 am

As far as I know, the two or three in our town are all switching to this plan. I will have to confirm that for sure, I know the one I'm on now is implementing it. I'll have to find other means.
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Chica Cheve
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:06 am

Well we get capped. We get 60GB. 30 on peak 30 off peak. $15 for 20GB if you want a top up. They don't charge if we go over the limit either, we just get the speed lowered to dial up speed. Its not bad but man oh man I would give so much for unlimited Internet. You Americans and Europeans are spoiled rotten.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:53 am

[censored] straight we are, and I'm going to go kicking and screaming the whole way refusing to let them just steam roll over this.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 am

Have yet to hear anything about this in Sweden. The commercials here happily write about unlimited plans for your smartphone for reasonable prices. I really feel your pain Canadians. It'd be like going back to dial-up... "Only an hour per day fatal!"

I guess the piracy party would get a lot of votes in such an event...
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:21 pm

Does this mean that there's absolutely no such thing as flat rate Internet access in Canada?
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Joanne
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:58 am

:verymad: I've already signed petitions against this garbage. I'm with Rogers, on a 60gb a month plan (which works fine for me most months), but if they were to change ours to 25gb there'd be hell to pay.

As a gamer, I would easily blow over a 25gb limit.

They really need to improve the internet infrastructure here, it hasn't seen any major upgrades in over a decade (back when the internet was still a baby). We really need an overhaul to allow greater usage.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:30 am

Read about this on atlus forums...awesome for other companies since they can all blame bell for the cap
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Jeff Turner
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:05 am

If anyone wishes to send letters in to local newspapers, here is someone organizing where we need more letters sent. http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/fd1r9/followup_to_today_rcanada_we_write_letters_to_the/
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:52 am

Does this mean that there's absolutely no such thing as flat rate Internet access in Canada?


This is what I would like to know. It's fairly common in the U.S. at least.

Guess I should really stop [censored]in' about the crappy Bell service in my area.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:00 am

You have my sympathies. Internet caps svck. ;3;


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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:36 am

It is currently a flat rate system, and with this new metered paying it still hypothetically will be. Except for the fact that they are lowering the download caps significantly. I was at 200 on the basic plan, and for 10 more dollars a month could go to 250GB a month. Now however for the same price I'm getting knocked down to a measly 25GB and a crappier internet speed. However, due to the monopolization Bell has, there is no competition that can offer any other offers. The smaller ISP's are being throttled by Bell's limits, and so in turn they limit us. If we go over this 25GB a month then it's a $1/GB or more. I will have to pay 12 more dollars a month to get the equivalent speed I have now, and even then I'll only get a small 100GB/month. My fear is that once they start monopolizing this, then in turn they can start charging for individual websites and services.

Edit
They claim it's so they can turn a profit that they have to do this, but last year Bell Canada reported 2billion in profit. Not total income, but pure profit. So what is this really about? They're clearly making tons of money already, but you also have to realize Bell Canada has a large share in Television. Companies that are now just coming to Canada like Netflix are offering superior deals to primitive TV. So the best way to stop their competitor? Limit the downloads, now Canada is going to be throttled and fail in an increasingly digital world. As our digital needs increase, this 25GB a month cap is going to look silly primitive. It already does look silly and primitive, but when you factor in all of these other services soon to be offered and technological advancements it leads us to the conclusion that getting a cap is a bad thing in the short and long run.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:11 pm

I have a cap of like 12.5 gigs. Satellite Internet is fail, but it's all I get out here.
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Taylor Bakos
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:52 am

I feel your pain. :( I know I easily chew through 50 a month minimum couldn't imagine having a cap so low.
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Abi Emily
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:50 am

Come on guys! When the Opposition votes no confidence and an election is called, if the Liberals promise internet this will blow over.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:11 am

A little bit of good news. http://www.soonews.ca/viewarticle.php?id=29583
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:25 am

I fail to understand how data has any wear & tear factor on the Internet.

Yeah, if everyone's using it, you have to expand services, but volume of data should matter not once the hardware is in place. People pay for the quality of service (speed) they get. Volume of data makes little sense if the company is turning a profit by having the service in place.
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