That's basically the question. The US annexed Canada in 2072 (it actually sort of started in 2067), but after it was made official, what happened?

I'm talking on a political level mostly. Did Canada become the 14th 'Commonwealth?' Or was it just the annexed country of Canada? Did each province become a 'state?' Or what? Is there any info out there that talks about this?

A curious Canadian.

Im sure it was just an annexed territory.

And i seem to remember a hell of a lot of civil unrest in canada during the later stages of the great war. Rebellion possibly...

Personaly, I would have Grabbed a gun and rebelled! FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!

Wouldn't Canada ( Hey I'm really Canadian too! ) be a wasteland much like the US is now since it was annexed?

Most likely yes, as is the rest of the world. And no, there is no canon info on the political status of Canada after annexation.

Also, this should go to the lore forum board, not the Fallout 3 one.

If you go to the fallout wiki "the vault" it has a broken down timeline of events leading from the year 2044 to the year 2174

To save lazy people some time(yes, this usually includes me);

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Canada

sorry if i sound stupid, but what does annex mean?

It means to take over.

Anyways I don't think Canada would have backed down so easily. Personally I believe we would have fought it back down into the US and taken back Alaska for ourselves (it was originally part of Canada).

No, it wasn't. It belonged to Russia.

Well, that makes me feel a bit stupid. Anyways, I'm sure we would have attempted to take Alaska for ourselves...

And piss off the greatest military power in the world?

As the original Fallout intro shows, Canadians tried to fight... ending up dead, as nothing could stand up to the Power Armor short of anti-tank weaponry.

I'm somewhat curious as to why we didn't have that technology available. As far as I know, even in the 50s Canada was not a backwater country... In keeping with the whole 50s thing, our currency was strong back then and we had a lot of resources, plus our military wasn't that bad and I'm betting that since everything pretty much stopped evolving we wouldn't have changed too much... That said, I think we would have put up a major fight and pushed the US back OR joined them in the first place instead of letting them annex our country...

Seems to make sense to me. America wanted troops in Canada to protect one of their last pipelines. Canada buckled under the pressure coming from America (as we usually do), and let them in. America moved her troops in, but then also started pressuring Canada to give up some resources to help them win. Being close allies, of course Canada gives them what they want, and they end up taking more. Protests break out across Canada, someone tries to bomb the pipeline, and America has had enough. She annexes us to protect her oil interest.

America has always had more money to spend on battle technology. They'd definately have the upper hand. They didn't declare war on Canada; they kind of snuck in and took over. In the real world, America could probably win against Canada no problem, but then they'd have a bunch of other countries at their back.

If the bombs didn't drop i believe Canada would have gotten our freedom back. In our history America has never been really able to control any other country. The Americans are damn good at the big war but those guerilla fights eventually seem to wear them down.

But the bombs fell and there was no more countrys just the wasteland.

Here's some tidbits about Canada you find out about ingame.

1-One is a letter from Vault-Tec to a customer denied admission to one of the DC area Vaults. The letter recommends the customer look into reserving space in vaults that have open spots and specifically mentions Canada.

2-The Germantown Police Department has a report about a person pulled over. The contents of the car contained a Canadian flag. Since we know that protestors to Canadian annexation were "shot on sight", it could be assumed anyone owning Canadian emblems from its pre-annexation days could be arrested or detained.

Funny this came up...one of the locations ive been looking at for an urban mod is in fact toronto canada the downtown core...curely it would have been wiped out as canadas largest city...

could be a good location...hehe

Canada had an army?

What an idiot; how do you think we wasted Nazi's in world war two; with a buckshot rifle?; before that how do you think we burnt down your White House, with a cigarette lighter?

hehe, Pwned. :shifty:

didnt russia always claim stake to it, since that expidation. the one who was lead by bearing. (hence the name bearing straits, off the coast of alaska) and russia sold/leased it to us. (good luck getting it back russia, lol)

Canada didn't take the brunt of the nuclear exchange, they successfully overthrew the us influence when they were pre-occupied with the world at large. They then proceeded to advance at par with how fast it had been happening and by fallout 3 2277 they are a super nation with elite tech. They took a massive hit on the nuclear fallout in terms of population. Canada had begun to recover 200 years later, but the population is still not sufficient for them to bother with world conquest... yet.

*Theory* Likely they are either allied with the alien's OR we genetically tinkered with ourselves until we become the aliens. *End Theory*

Basically Canada is one of the few green nations left on the face of the world and while we don't know really how strong the rest of the world is it is likely the top contender for world dominating super power. We do know that they have advanced (ok more advanced?) tech than anything you see in the wastelands, we do know that only the major cities (vancouver, edmonton, calgary, etc on over) were actually struck with nuclear missles. The smaller cities escaped 'unscathed' for the most part (aside from deadly radiation dieoff and the lack of weapons everywhere in canada lead to massive dieoffs early as mutants (ghouls, etc) came up from the remains of the USA to kill kill kill. Small city states formed in canada where under the guidance (protection) of the RCMP or Rebels (ex military it was disabanded when we were annexed). They then reconnected and began the arduous task of rebuilding a nation admist total destruction of the world, our trading partners, etc.


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In the real world canada is one of a few nations to have utterly defeated the USA in 1 on 1 combat when the US tried to invade and take over Canada... 1812 if memory serves. Considered a British victory as we were a "colony" granted what it was 1982 or something before we officially became our own country?

In WWI the USA was a feared country in the war. And not by their enemies, they had no concept of friendly fire and more often than not bombed their own lines.

WWII was a slightly better showing by the US in that respect but they still killed by a factor of 10 more allies than the rest of the allies combined.

Along this trend the US still friendly fire murders its allies in combat zones and STILL pardons the murderers time and time again.

IF the us was to attack canada they would likely win in short order... But don't forget the world loves Canada... And specifically China would come to our aid in a heart beat if the US invaded (in conventional land war China wins hands down vs the USA). We also DO have nukes (a few intresting stories, the USA sold us nukes a while back that later turned out to be duds with sandbags inside the warheads... no word on if they actually sold us nukes and we awoled them or if they lied to us). We have jumpstarted most of the 3rd world nations nuclear programs with Candu Reactors (pocket nukes in the making). And given that it would take quite a while for the US to actually conquer the whole of Canada (admist massive protests from our relatives down south, and the rest of the world). So even if they managed to 'annex' us the backlash would leave them open for either a multi front war (4 fronts, mexico up, both seas, and us) so that their lines would be spread sooo thin that they would be broken, or they ignore defending a side and just get swept as their supply lines are severed).

So in reality the US could defeat Canada in a war; however, they would also lose. In the end Canada would again be a free nation and the US would be annexed by China, or it would lead to nuclear exchange and we don't have massive underground bunkers everywhere for the population to survive in.


Also - You are thinking the Alaskan Pan-handle that runs on the north western part of BC that belonged to Canada and was stupidly sold (lent?) to the US. Alaska was always USSR

So the crashed alien spaceship is Canadian? oo:

It also means that Canada invented one of the best weapons in the game (namely, The Alien Blaster) (Damn Right! B) )

As I said thats my theory, as we don't really know. At any rate Canadian tech and weapons is known to have continued to advance, likely it took us 100-200 years to get back into the full swing of things but we dominate the tech pile.

Oh, gee, people trying to derail the thread into a 'my country can beat up your country' thread. I'm so shocked. :rolleyes:

There isn't really much lore about Canada's status after they were annexed, only the events leading up to the annexation. As far as the other arguments on here... the US had power armor. Power armor was to the Great War what the atom bomb was to World War 2. Its unlikely the Canadians in the Fallout universe had much choice, and if they'd tried to fight they wouldn't have accomplished much but turned themselves into a speed bump on the way to China.