Canadian Revolution Fallout 4?

Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:03 am

After reading the history of the Fallout version of Canada and i'm imagining a bunch of pissed off Canucks iching for revenge. your character could aid and support the brutal and vengeful revolutionaires, or the oppressers(who i don't know) also it would interesting to see irradiated beavers and Mega Moose if anyone has any to add please by all means
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Canada
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:30 pm

I don't know if Canada is even in the position in having a post-apocalyptic revolution. After all they probably got a heavy dose of Fallout. Canada couldn't compete with any of the factions of the wasteland. Since the USA annexed the country and basically turned it into a position there would be nearly nothing left. The Reds would have bombed out all major cities and any peoples living there would not be able to even fight for a freedom against a tyrant in which there is none. The United States government is completely oblitered and destroyed so what could the Canadians fight for in the first place?
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:45 pm

"Patroling the Canadian wildernees makes you wish you were in new vegas." Ahhh I can see it now...
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:43 pm

I don't know if Canada is even in the position in having a post-apocalyptic revolution. After all they probably got a heavy dose of Fallout. Canada couldn't compete with any of the factions of the wasteland. Since the USA annexed the country and basically turned it into a position there would be nearly nothing left. The Reds would have bombed out all major cities and any peoples living there would not be able to even fight for a freedom against a tyrant in which there is none. The United States government is completely oblitered and destroyed so what could the Canadians fight for in the first place?

Canada has hundreds of rural communities so there would a few left, and the Territories would probably be left alone except maybe for a few Chinese remneat groups. as for an oppresser, maybe a few govermant survivors and a garrison of power armoured soldiers wanting to keep Canada until America is remade, something like that. and i thought of an irradiated animal that coulld be the equvalint of a Deathclaw, a Grizzly Bear or Mountain Lion either one or both sound good
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:04 pm

Revenge against who exactly?

Remember we're talking over 200 years after the fact - In those places where there is schooling, the USA is much like Ancient Rome or Greece - Its long gone. Some of the principles are remembered and possibly selectively idealised a bit by the successor groups, nations and proto-nations. The wounds are probably long forgotten
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:08 pm

*sniff* thanks for nothing, i try give a good idea and you guys just shoot it down, biased amaricans always thinking about themselves
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:54 am

*sniff* thanks for nothing, i try give a good idea and you guys just shoot it down, biased amaricans always thinking about themselves

If I may quote one of the Mod's sigs, don't confuse critisism with hating something - its possible to point out flaws and actually like it.

Also check here
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Her Majesty will be most upset to learn that her kingdom has been annexed.
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If I may quote one of the Mod's sigs, don't confuse critisism with hating something - its possible to point out flaws and actually like it.

Also check here
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Her Majesty will be most upset to learn that her kingdom has been annexed.

sorry i just haven't had good experince with taking critisism but isn't anyone interested in traveling the northern wasteland? i mean i can see it working, can't anyone else?
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:24 pm

I don't know if Canada is even in the position in having a post-apocalyptic revolution. After all they probably got a heavy dose of Fallout. Canada couldn't compete with any of the factions of the wasteland. Since the USA annexed the country and basically turned it into a position there would be nearly nothing left. The Reds would have bombed out all major cities and any peoples living there would not be able to even fight for a freedom against a tyrant in which there is none. The United States government is completely oblitered and destroyed so what could the Canadians fight for in the first place?


Ashur, in his speech reopening the Arena, mentioned Ronto (almost certainly Toronto) is something of a military power in 2277. It remains to be seen who holds power in Ronto....descendants of the US occupation troops or (more likely) Canucks. One thing is for certain.....they'll be complaining about us. I still remember the time of of them ranted to me about how "You Americans think you're gods while we Canadians are humble!". At least in this game when it happens I'll get to shoot them in the face. :lol:

Seriously, I doubt there would be any sort of US Government presence up there, except maybe a hidden Enclave base or two. After the exchange any surviving US troops would have left for home or been killed by the Canucks forthwith. Most likely you'd have Ronto (ruled by anglophone Canucks) spending most of it's time waging a war with the Quebecers, who would be fighting both the hated anglophones in Ronto and trying to ethnically cleanse the tribals (real Indians) living in Quebec that resist being forced to speak French. When Ronto and Quebec wasn't fighting each other both would be raiding settlements across what was the US border to get "reparations" for the Occupation.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:45 am

Ashur, in his speech reopening the Arena, mentioned Ronto (almost certainly Toronto) is something of a military power in 2277. It remains to be seen who holds power in Ronto....descendants of the US occupation troops or (more likely) Canucks. One thing is for certain.....they'll be complaining about us. I still remember the time of of them ranted to me about how "You Americans think you're gods while we Canadians are humble!". At least in this game when it happens I'll get to shoot them in the face. :lol:

Seriously, I doubt there would be any sort of US Government presence up there, except maybe a hidden Enclave base or two. After the exchange any surviving US troops would have left for home or been killed by the Canucks forthwith. Most likely you'd have Ronto (ruled by anglophone Canucks) spending most of it's time waging a war with the Quebecers, who would be fighting both the hated anglophones in Ronto and trying to ethnically cleanse the tribals (real Indians) living in Quebec that resist being forced to speak French. When Ronto and Quebec wasn't fighting each other both would be raiding settlements across what was the US border to get "reparations" for the Occupation.

thats really good thinking, but what i was thinking that a bunch of American vault dwellers, who have been taught American superiority the whole time emerge in Canada and they claim Canada(or at least the area) and all its survivors under their rule. this could be the capital Ottawa. also i was thinking that instead of one big map, there would be several spread across different areas of Canada and neighbouring US communities, through a convoy system that comes to areas every week or so, and stay there for while then leave for another area. you may need to pay with a unique currency in fuel or gain the favor of a major faction in the area. with the many areas opens up many possibities for conflicts across Canada from what TIberius said english vs french, and native conflicts. also i was thinking about the radio stations could play country music and rock cause Canada can't have been restricted like the States in music.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:03 pm

After reading the history of the Fallout version of Canada and i'm imagining a bunch of pissed off Canucks iching for revenge. your character could aid and support the brutal and vengeful revolutionaires, or the oppressers(who i don't know) also it would interesting to see irradiated beavers and Mega Moose if anyone has any to add please by all means
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Canada

Why are the revolutionaries the good guys and the established government the "oppressors"? Why is the group trying to establish stability in a world of lawlessness the ones who are vilified?
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:55 pm

Why are the revolutionaries the good guys and the established government the "oppressors"? Why is the group trying to establish stability in a world of lawlessness the ones who are vilified?

Because they do so uninvited. If I came into your house uninvited and started renovating your house in a style that you don't approve of, would you be happy?

Also: have you seen the fallout intro with the clip of "our boys keeping the peace in Canada"?
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:01 pm

Why are the revolutionaries the good guys and the established government the "oppressors"? Why is the group trying to establish stability in a world of lawlessness the ones who are vilified?

i should have put the emphesis on BRUTAL, the Canadains are not nice (in some areas), the goals are good, but not their methods not so much. like taking a prisoner, tying him to a tree, cutting him up, then leave him alive for the wildlife (bears!) but that would just be one of the many conflicts across Canada
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:40 pm

thats really good thinking, but what i was thinking that a bunch of American vault dwellers, who have been taught American superiority the whole time emerge in Canada and they claim Canada(or at least the area) and all its survivors under their rule. this could be the capital Ottawa. also i was thinking that instead of one big map, there would be several spread across different areas of Canada and neighbouring US communities, through a convoy system that comes to areas every week or so, and stay there for while then leave for another area. you may need to pay with a unique currency in fuel or gain the favor of a major faction in the area. with the many areas opens up many possibities for conflicts across Canada from what TIberius said english vs french, and native conflicts. also i was thinking about the radio stations could play country music and rock cause Canada can't have been restricted like the States in music.


If they were doing a Fallout game set in Canada, it would probably be centered on Ronto. Pluses are it it's close to the US border (both Michigan and New York) and not outrageously far from Quebec (the front lines for thier struggle would probably be the ruins of Ottawa) so a variety of factions could be in play. The Regime in Ronto would...as Ashur hinted...have to be pretty tough to survive against potential enemies out of Detroit or Buffalo, not to mention Montreal. Any Vaults opening into this mess would probably be overrun fairly quickly by one power or another.

As far as music...there is a AM station in Ontario, out of one of the suburbs of Toronto, I believe, I can pick up at night that plays 40's Swing music of all things.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:31 pm

YEAH LETS TAKE CANADA BACK FROM THE ENCLAVE!!!

I want a Fallout game around Toronto soo bad. We can have the CN tower, Niagara falls, Wonderland. It be all snowy outside. It be so cool. Right in my hometown.. :D
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:51 am

I don't know if Canada is even in the position in having a post-apocalyptic revolution. After all they probably got a heavy dose of Fallout. Canada couldn't compete with any of the factions of the wasteland. Since the USA annexed the country and basically turned it into a position there would be nearly nothing left. The Reds would have bombed out all major cities and any peoples living there would not be able to even fight for a freedom against a tyrant in which there is none. The United States government is completely oblitered and destroyed so what could the Canadians fight for in the first place?


Completely untrue. Canada is a big country and why would you bomb us anywhere other then Toronto? I mean you can either nuke Canada or the US. Why bother wasting soo much nukes on a country with a lot less population when we support peace and are a no threat?? Canada would be a lot less destroyed..
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:00 pm

Completely untrue. Canada is a big country and why would you bomb us anywhere other then Toronto? I mean you can either nuke Canada or the US. Why bother wasting soo much nukes on a country with a lot less population when we support peace and are a no threat?? Canada would be a lot less destroyed..


All that would be necessary would to be to hit the sea-ports on the East and West coasts, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Winnipeg. Remember in the Fallout universe Canada is occupied by the US...hitting those targets would make Canada much less useful to the US war effort.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:36 pm

How about NO.

The thought of playing in Canada just makes me sick.

No sarcasm intended.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:18 pm

How about NO.

The thought of playing in Canada just makes me sick.

No sarcasm intended.

here people, is a starling example of a bad karma character in this Fallout adventure
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:24 am

After reading the history of the Fallout version of Canada and i'm imagining a bunch of pissed off Canucks iching for revenge. your character could aid and support the brutal and vengeful revolutionaires, or the oppressers(who i don't know) also it would interesting to see irradiated beavers and Mega Moose if anyone has any to add please by all means
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Canada

Meh. Why would the canucks be itching for revenge exactly? I'd imagine that they could easily oppress themselves. Man turns against man, the nation of their ancestor means nothing in the quest for power. In fact, my best guess would the canadians would be enslaving each other, warring against each other, and oppressing each other without any of us Americans getting involved.
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:15 am

Meh. Why would the canucks be itching for revenge exactly? I'd imagine that they could easily oppress themselves. Man turns against man, the nation of their ancestor means nothing in the quest for power. In fact, my best guess would the canadians would be enslaving each other, warring against each other, and oppressing each other without any of us Americans getting involved.

thats a good point but the revolutionaries would just be one faction amoung several, and yes there will be fighting amongst Canadian factions but if your diplomatic skills are up to par you could settle all (or at least some) disputes and lead a united front, some conflicts may be harder to solve than others, like Ontarians vs the Quebecois, or the inter city war between Calgary and Edmonton, all of which under the shadow of a group of elitist americans who rule, who may be backed by the Enclave later on
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:08 pm

all of which under the shadow of a group of elitist americans who rule, who may be backed by the Enclave later on


Urm... do you have any issues with teh amerika? :unsure: :laugh:
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:23 am

Urm... do you have any issues with teh amerika? :unsure: :laugh:

ME? no. all america did was move in, oppress Canadians, destroyed the land, and dragged them into a nuclear holocaust, i got no problems with america none at all
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:17 pm

thats a good point but the revolutionaries would just be one faction amoung several, and yes there will be fighting amongst Canadian factions but if your diplomatic skills are up to par you could settle all (or at least some) disputes and lead a united front, some conflicts may be harder to solve than others, like Ontarians vs the Quebecois, or the inter city war between Calgary and Edmonton, all of which under the shadow of a group of elitist americans who rule, who may be backed by the Enclave later on

And why must there be an elitist american conspiracy? Can't Canada stand up on it's own troubles? Or must we reduce ourselves to defining the Canadian factions as "not American?"
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Post » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:29 pm

Maple Syrup Grenades deflected by Flap Jack Flak Jackets...no thanks :lol:
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