Is Cannibalism really bad in the Wasteland?

Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:01 am

idk x 5 or something idk



Seems to me people formulate opinions without enough information.
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Adam Porter
 
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:22 pm

Seems to me people formulate opinions without enough information.


or perhaps im too tired/lazy to come with a reason
or maybe confusion is the influence
but
A- well then it would be an advantage to eat him eh'?

B- yea and his flesh replenishes hunger so you could just save the flesh for later too or sell it as strange meat
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:28 am

What if the wastelander

A. Had no food or water which is why he was out prowling around or possibly attacking you

B. Was away from where he kept his food or water so even if you met him, killing him would not garner you resources other than his flesh.

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All this talk over PRIONS in this thread...

No ones asked questions like

How likely prions are to be in a corpse.

Whether or not the corpse has to start decomposing for them to appear or not, and if so, why hasn't the question of morality in this been reworked to eating freshly killed corpses for cannibalism -- to avoid this whole prion sideshow.

I was looking it up on wikipedia and apparently prions are something that can only be transmitted if the meat actually HAS them. The way you read this thread it makes it appear as if everything is chock full of prions and that one lick and you're screwed.


THEN YOU EAT THEM. I mean, the situation is different in that scenario. For me, what I do isn't because it's wrong or right, it's because it's situational. So in a nuclear wasteland, just eat the person if you're going to die. It's you or him and personally, unless the guy's using power armor and a minigun, just back away a few feet, wait for him to turn around...and shoot.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:00 pm

THEN YOU EAT THEM. I mean, the situation is different in that scenario. For me, what I do isn't because it's wrong or right, it's because it's situational. So in a nuclear wasteland, just eat the person if you're going to die. It's you or him and personally, unless the guy's using power armor and a minigun, just back away a few feet, wait for him to turn around...and shoot.

yea!
unless hes a power trooper, then you dont wait, then u run up and stab his neck and rip it open killing him and avoiding injury! MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA >:D
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:26 pm

Was just trying to get the thread back on topic. It's an abstract question about the morality of cannibalism in the type of world fallout is, that means it's not precisely a question about the game itself. All this talk of prions and power troopers is sort of just dodging the question. People tend to dodge a lot when they don't have a good answer, rather than simply saying they don't have a good answer or keeping completely silent.

True answer to the question is that nothing is intrinsically good or bad, so the answer is *No*, cannibalism isn't really bad in the wasteland.

It's obvious to me this was a morality question. If anyone tried to answer it in a different sense, i.e. taking the way he used the word "bad" out of context and supplementing the word "healthy" in its place instead . . . then they were off-topic imo. Don't let the words scare you; they really weren't that big.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:46 pm

Was just trying to get the thread back on topic. It's an abstract question about the morality of cannibalism in the type of world fallout is, that means it's not precisely a question about the game itself. All this talk of prions and power troopers is sort of just dodging the question. People tend to dodge a lot when they don't have a good answer, rather than simply saying they don't have a good answer or keeping completely silent.

True answer to the question is that nothing is intrinsically good or bad, so the answer is *No*, cannibalism isn't really bad in the wasteland.

It's obvious to me this was a morality question. If anyone tried to answer it in a different sense, i.e. taking the way he used the word "bad" out of context and supplementing the word "healthy" in its place instead . . . then they were off-topic imo. Don't let the words scare you; they really weren't that big.


.....
well honestly in my opinion
morally, it shouldent be bad at all,
you do what you have to to survive, regardless if ur eating off a dead one of ur own kind = /
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:04 am

It is morally wrong, no matter what the situation, to knowingly consume the flesh of your own species.

There is no morals in the Wasteland, you do what you got to do.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:06 pm

There is no morals in the Wasteland, you do what you got to do.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the word "are" is supposed to be used when referring to something plural. Wouldn't "there are no morals in the Wasteland" make more sense?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:33 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the word "are" is supposed to be used when referring to something plural. Wouldn't "there are no morals in the Wasteland" make more sense?

no your right
but i was tired.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:10 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the word "are" is supposed to be used when referring to something plural. Wouldn't "there are no morals in the Wasteland" make more sense?

Grammar ain't my thing.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:41 pm

I'd have no reason to become a cannibal in either Wasteland. The poorest Wastelander's stuff could at least buy you food, water, or booze. Mutated animal meat and hides can net you an easy payday. The average Raider could feed you, clothe you, and provide you with weapons and ammo. A major faction player could get you rent and better stuff. A couple missions could get you a place to live. Just start small and work your way up. The Wasteland is the last bastion of pure, unfettered opportunity and capitalism on Earth.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:09 am

I'd have no reason to become a cannibal in either Wasteland. The poorest Wastelander's stuff could at least buy you food, water, or booze. Mutated animal meat and hides can net you an easy payday. The average Raider could feed you, clothe you, and provide you with weapons and ammo. A major faction player could get you rent and better stuff. A couple missions could get you a place to live. Just start small and work your way up. The Wasteland is the last bastion of pure, unfettered opportunity and capitalism on Earth.


yet still, being a cannibal opens more doors at the cost of breaking a natures law that seems to be purely [censored]
animals do it all the time when they starve
humans are TECHNICALLY animals (technically its not technical, were all animals)
so there should be no reason for it to be morally wrong
its just whether you have religious BS or not, or if you feel the guilt
there is nothing wrong with cannibalism. However, killing people is a different subject, especially if its just for food.
eating human flesh is just like eating animal, i mean if i blind folded someone and fed them human, unless they know the taste (meaning they would have cannibalized) they wouldn't feel bad. but, then there's the killing issue to get the meat,,,,
so being cannibal is just an upper hand in the wastes...in reality of modern day however, its stupid, seeing as you could kill a dog alot easier then a human, and risk getting curable diseases, instead of mystery meat side effects which is completely unknown....
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anyways my opinion is, desperate times calls for desperate measures, so please pass me that leg, I've been starving for days
-cannibal jokes = dark humor
-cannibal jokes = jokes only non cannibals would say....right.....right?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Don't see what's different about murder. Morals are manmade, not reality.

see: http://www.spectacle.org/1299/moral.html

and to a slightly lesser extent:

http://www.spectacle.org/0400/natural.html

It saves me time because it basically espouses many of the things I'd come to see myself (you might be surprised by how many insights I've had that turned out to be major philosophical "discoveries" taught in college or philosophy books later in life, jeesh, I could have been famous if I was born 500 years ago) without me having to write it.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:54 pm

Don't see what's different about murder. Morals are manmade, not reality.

see: http://www.spectacle.org/1299/moral.html

and to a slightly lesser extent:

http://www.spectacle.org/0400/natural.html

It saves me time because it basically espouses many of the things I'd come to see myself (you might be surprised by how many insights I've had that turned out to be major philosophical "discoveries" taught in college or philosophy books later in life, jeesh, I could have been famous if I was born 500 years ago) without me having to write it.


Im sure its all interesting
about morality and such
but i think there's a difference between murdering someone
and eating someone that's already dead from an event (weather it twas you whom killed him or nae)
like if your mates leg got amputated, and then you ate it, you would just be reusing your mates old leg for energy
but if you ripped someones leg off and ate it, it would be unnecessary and there for wrong *even though it does seem disgusting, it also seems logical*
that's my opinion, even if its unrelated to what you stated.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:59 am

Im sure its all interesting
about morality and such
but i think there's a difference between murdering someone
and eating someone that's already dead from an event (weather it twas you whom killed him or nae)
like if your mates leg got amputated, and then you ate it, you would just be reusing your mates old leg for energy
but if you ripped someones leg off and ate it, it would be unnecessary and there for wrong *even though it does seem disgusting, it also seems logical*
that's my opinion, even if its unrelated to what you stated.



Actually if you just read one of them it's a pretty short read. Take you maybe double the time it did to write that post if you're a quick reader.

Anyway, there is a physical difference, but that's probably not what you were implying.

You're welcome to your opinion that it's immoral, but I still say morality doesn't exist in reality. It's a *Social* reality, -- in the same way that money is only worth something because it's a social reality. In reality money is just paper... if you went out to an undiscovered jungle tribe and tried to buy some food from them with some "money" they might view it as worth no more than kindling for a fire (paper money I mean)....

Point I'm trying to make is that there's a difference between what *really is* and what we all as a society *believe really is*.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:35 pm

Actually if you just read one of them it's a pretty short read. Take you maybe double the time it did to write that post if you're a quick reader.

Anyway, there is a physical difference, but that's probably not what you were implying.

You're welcome to your opinion that it's immoral, but I still say morality doesn't exist in reality. It's a *Social* reality, -- in the same way that money is only worth something because it's a social reality. In reality money is just paper... if you went out to an undiscovered jungle tribe and tried to buy some food from them with some "money" they might view it as worth no more than kindling for a fire (paper money I mean)....

Point I'm trying to make is that there's a difference between what *really is* and what we all as a society *believe really is*.

mhmmm
yea i sapose your right about that,
but heres a question thouh,
if you had to eat ur own legs to survive, would you do it? XD
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:08 pm

It would kill me just attempting it. If not than ya.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:42 pm

It would kill me just attempting it. If not than ya.

it would be pretty sick to watch though, right?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:19 pm

it would be pretty sick to watch though, right?



Nah, I'd be so hungry if I were to eat my own leg that such thoughts as to how gross it was would likely not occur.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:05 pm

Well, if I am starving and I come across some living person in some wasteland, I am going to kill and eat the poor bastard. You can sit there all day and say I am doing the wrong thing, and that eating another human is wrong, but, at the end of the day, I am still alive, and thats all that really matters.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:02 pm

do just tear at the skin? LOL

or chop off limbs and eat the limbs?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:34 am

Well, if I am starving and I come across some living person in some wasteland, I am going to kill and eat the poor bastard. You can sit there all day and say I am doing the wrong thing, and that eating another human is wrong, but, at the end of the day, I am still alive, and thats all that really matters.



Why, you being alive or dead doesn't matter at all! You can sit there all day and say that you being alive matters, and that you being dead is wrong, but, at the end of the day, you have no proof, not that it really matters for some people... cough.
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Why, you being alive or dead doesn't matter at all! You can sit there all day and say that you being alive matters, and that you being dead is wrong, but, at the end of the day, you have no proof, not that it really matters for some people... cough.


Wait what?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:39 am

Wait what?


"Slugs are all that really matter"

"Pennies from 1972 are all that really matter.

Learn to separate desire from *real*ity.

Learn that your desires don't matter to anything that matters and so have no weight for justification

Learn to not assume that what's important to you has merit; lest you be asked why eight dozen times.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:19 pm

Consumption of Human tissues risks transmitting things like prions to the cannibal. So for health reasons, wastlanders should look elsewhere.

AIDS..... :cryvaultboy:
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