Is Cannibalism really bad in the Wasteland?

Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:09 am

No, its not that its immoral, it's not that its messed, its because there is something in you, for a good reason, that stops you from being a cannibal. Think about it, you could have thoughts about eating your pet, if that time of death was about to accour, but only if survival was needed, example, you could save the human race, you would probably think of eating something of the same species. You dont have thoughts of eating people now do you? No, because, im pretty sure that something, ummm... to say it without going over the top it's.... bad. Im certain that were the time to arise, you would rather starve. If your not convinced just look up cannabilism, and it's effects. I never have because honestly, thats just creepy, but you can.... if you want.

To get to the point, its bad, yes, and I would rather starve to death painfully than eat a human being and live my life knowing I did that.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:08 am

No, its not that its immoral, it's not that its messed, its because there is something in you, for a good reason, that stops you from being a cannibal. Think about it, you could have thoughts about eating your pet, if that time of death was about to accour, but only if survival was needed, example, you could save the human race, you would probably think of eating something of the same species. You dont have thoughts of eating people now do you? No, because, im pretty sure that something, ummm... to say it without going over the top it's.... bad. Im certain that were the time to arise, you would rather starve. If your not convinced just look up cannabilism, and it's effects. I never have because honestly, thats just creepy, but you can.... if you want.

To get to the point, its bad, yes, and I would rather starve to death painfully than eat a human being and live my life knowing I did that.



You, sir and/or madame...

... are only inviting yourself to be the eaten one.


Tell me, do you think you would go better with a bit of ketchup... or perhaps being made into some sort of a lemon-drizzled, herbs and spices recipe?


Er... okay, all joking aside, I can tell you hands down that not only could I live with myself very easily for eating some other poor bastard rather than dying... but that I really don't feel that instinctive 'badness' inside about doing so... or really just about anything you said. It's not even that I'm some kind of sociopath or something... it's just that I don't feel there is anything particularly special about us humans which makes us different from any other damn animal out there. What makes it right to kill and eat others, but yet we're so high and mighty that any creature which sees us as food must be exterminated immediately.

We're so paranoid about being dominant... we actively conduct MANHUNTS for animals which kill humans. What other arrogant-ass species do you know that does that? Maybe, if you've really enraged them, a band of chimpanzees who have been repeatedly assaulted will send out a 'war party' to find and kill you. But I doubt they would keep searching for two weeks to do it.

We're bred to think ourselves superior... and I for one refuse to believe it.

I also refuse to believe that because we have this obnoxious tendency towards sentimentality, myself included, that that means that I have to adhere to the psychological programming which society has tried to instill in me.

My pet. My friend. My family. We're all animals in the end... and an animal's primary purpose is quite simple: Survive and propagate the species. Any works of art, of beauty... they are secondary to survival.

I would feel a certain amount of regret for being forced to burn a priceless painting for warmth.

I would feel the same certain amount of regret for being forced to cook my best friend into a delicious stew. But it's not going to keep me awake at night, wracked with guilt. I did what I needed to do to survive... and that is the primary, basic tenet of life. All other species will, when backed into that corner, resort to survival by any means necessary.


Mind you... I do believe that, to justify the risks of cannibalism... you had better damn be backed into the corner. There's really no other excuse to waste life, a valuable resource, frivolously. People are helpful to have around in quite a great many circumstances... especially when there is work to be done.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:18 pm

Aurelius thinks it taste like chicken.
It taste like chicken, then it's okay to eat.




Seriously though it depends on the situation.
But it should be a final resort to starvation.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:01 am

Do I think Cannibalism is bad in the Wasteland...? Yeah. You quickly find out humans are like Pringles "once you pop you can't stop", and soon you are killing people for food.

Do I think stealing food is bad in the Wasteland...? Nah no one ever seems to starve even though I steal every ounce of food from Goodspring >.>

Do I do both every single time I play Fallout? Yes. I play hardcoe, and I always at some point take the Cannibal perk.

REAL LIFE...

Do I think Cannibalism is bad in the real world? Yeah it is a social taboo, and has a large amount of health risks.

Do I think stealing food is bad in the real world? Yeah someone worked for that why should I get it for free?

Would I do either if I, or my family needed too to survive? Hell yeah.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:01 pm

Aside from outbreaks of Mad People Disease/Kuru from eating human remains tainted by prions in spinal fluid or brain tissues, I'd say VERY VERY BAD. Look at all the nutjob communities like The Republic of Dave, The Manhunters, Andale, etc... The further you are from "civilization" in the FO universe, the more likely you are to resort to cannibalism or make it part of your post-war culture when cultural taboos make way for satiating hunger. The Raider tribes were also notorious cannibals when their ill-gotten foodstuffs ran low.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:24 pm

It depends on your morales... I'd personally rather starve then eat anotehr human being.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:31 pm

Made me think of an old Horrible joke

2 cannibals are eating Ronald Mcdonald..
one turns to the other and says " hey does this clown taste funny to you??" (insert rimshot)

(sigh sorry everyone)

Though really folks why chance it hehe (like eating Fugu) just does not make much sense to me..


that exact same joke is made by someone in New Vegas at the Aces Theatre.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:28 am

Most of the cannibals in the fallout series actively hunt and murder people for food which is what really makes them bad, the eating them is secondary. The actual karma loss from using the perk is no worse then stealing.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:58 am

pick eat pigs
ants eat ants
scorpians eat scorpians
lizards eat lizards
and spiders eat spiders
so wtf is wrong with eating a damn human to survive?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:24 am

pick eat pigs
ants eat ants
scorpians eat scorpians
lizards eat lizards
and spiders eat spiders
so wtf is wrong with eating a damn human to survive?


Depends if you killed the person to do it.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:50 am

true true
but if it was a corpse that was just lying around its diffrent right?
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:00 pm

I find cannibalism absolutely revolting.

However, there is a difference between cannibalism in Silence Of The Lambs and cannibalism in Alive.

I think the latter is acceptable, so yes, therefore, if the alternative is death and you don't kill someone to eat them, then I suppose it's acceptable.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:37 pm

I find cannibalism absolutely revolting.

However, there is a difference between cannibalism in Silence Of The Lambs and cannibalism in Alive.

I think the latter is acceptable, so yes, therefore, if the alternative is death and you don't kill someone to eat them, then I suppose it's acceptable.


yea
but human skin is too salty and blood taste like silverware
so i don't think it would be tasty.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:27 am

yea
but human skin is too salty and blood taste like silverware


Actually, anybody NCR related tastes like chicken, so I guess they'd better stay away from Kentucky. Also, the silver taste, did you use coinshot, cause if so, maybe you should see a dentist.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:32 pm

Actually, anybody NCR related tastes like chicken, so I guess they'd better stay away from Kentucky. Also, the silver taste, did you use coinshot, cause if so, maybe you should see a dentist.


A- my own skin taste salty thats where i get that from
and B- my blood taste like silver/metal
soooo yea
maybe im not human?
maybe im a android XD
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:16 am

So why is killing a person morally wrong? Isn't that just speciesism? Same with cannibalism.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:22 am

So why is killing a person morally wrong? Isn't that just speciesism? Same with cannibalism.


hmmm
well it seems pointless if your just killing them
but if now lets say that its for survival then you can wonder if it was necessary or not
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:55 am

hmmmwell it seems pointless if your just killing thembut if now lets say that its for survival then you can wonder if it was necessary or not


Maybe for sport then, if u need a point to stop dodging the question :toughninja:
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:18 pm

Maybe for sport then, if u need a point to stop dodging the question :toughninja:


well idk why its imorraly wrong
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:35 am

You meet a wastelander.
You kill the wastelander.
You take the wastelander's food and water and sometimes even his money if he has any.

So why do you need to eat him? You already got his food which seems like a better alternative. I mean if it were a nuclear wasteland, I'd have no problem with killing anybody except for family. But if cannibalism were the only way to survive and feed my family, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:50 am

You meet a wastelander.
You kill the wastelander.
You take the wastelander's food and water and sometimes even his money if he has any.

So why do you need to eat him? You already got his food which seems like a better alternative. I mean if it were a nuclear wasteland, I'd have no problem with killing anybody except for family. But if cannibalism were the only way to survive and feed my family, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

yea but you also gotta consider if its someone you may come to love or befriend
they could become a invaluable ally
or maybe they have a disease
like aids
you get aids or some other disease from eating them
and shorten your life span
its just as much a risk whether you do it or not
no knows do they
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:45 am

yea but you also gotta consider if its someone you may come to love or befriend
they could become a invaluable ally
or maybe they have a disease
like aids
you get aids or some other disease from eating them
and shorten your life span
its just as much a risk whether you do it or not
no knows do they


Alright, but I don't know if AIDS can transfer from person to person via eating them. But it is transferred from blood to blood so who knows. Probably. But my point is there's no point to eat the guy if you just steal his food and water.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:06 am

Alright, but I don't know if AIDS can transfer from person to person via eating them. But it is transferred from blood to blood so who knows. Probably. But my point is there's no point to eat the guy if you just steal his food and water.


well it would let you save the food and water for a even later time periode
so its a you take the supplys
or you take supplys and a free revolting meal
its kinda of a risk win situation
depending on the person being fed apon.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:18 am

yea but you also gotta consider if its someone you may come to love or befriendthey could become a invaluable allyor maybe they have a diseaselike aidsyou get aids or some other disease from eating themand shorten your life spanits just as much a risk whether you do it or notno knows do they




What if the wastelander

A. Had no food or water which is why he was out prowling around or possibly attacking you

B. Was away from where he kept his food or water so even if you met him, killing him would not garner you resources other than his flesh.

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All this talk over PRIONS in this thread...

No ones asked questions like

How likely prions are to be in a corpse.

Whether or not the corpse has to start decomposing for them to appear or not, and if so, why hasn't the question of morality in this been reworked to eating freshly killed corpses for cannibalism -- to avoid this whole prion sideshow.

I was looking it up on wikipedia and apparently prions are something that can only be transmitted if the meat actually HAS them. The way you read this thread it makes it appear as if everything is chock full of prions and that one lick and you're screwed.
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Post » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:01 am

What if the wastelander

A. Had no food or water which is why he was out prowling around or possibly attacking you

B. Was away from where he kept his food or water so even if you met him, killing him would not garner you resources other than his flesh.

____

All this talk over PRIONS in this thread...

No ones asked questions like

How likely prions are to be in a corpse.

Whether or not the corpse has to start decomposing for them to appear or not, and if so, why hasn't the question of morality in this been reworked to eating freshly killed corpses for cannibalism -- to avoid this whole prion sideshow.

I was looking it up on wikipedia and apparently prions are something that can only be transmitted if the meat actually HAS them. The way you read this thread it makes it appear as if everything is chock full of prions and that one lick and you're screwed.



idk x 5 or something idk
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