Cannibalism

Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:11 pm

In FO3/NV we knee down and eat off the fallen enemy.
Could add some "human flesh" to the inventory too.
And fun? I dunno, why is it fun to focus on alteration? Or blade? Or light armor? Or jumping? Or using water breathing? Or using poisons?
For roleplaying purposes.

Well those are actually all important gameplay elements and a large focus of the game. Cannibalism to me seems, well, completely pointless. But I wouldn't really care if they put it in, if it didn't take them any time to do.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:43 am

dude.. ur kidding right... 200 years is 200 years there is no such thing as 200 years in TES vs real life. its still 200 years. from 500-700 AD in human time nothing much happened. 1800-2000 we went from making crappy rifles to super snipers and guided missles. infrared. we went from slaves to people getting arrested for hate crimes. Depends on which 200 years your talking about. these 200 are pretty dang drastic considering its after the most important elder scrolls event so far. the death of an emperor with no heirs who's last heirs turns into a statue leaving the empire in a crappy state. morrowind gets half blwon up and 2 provinces secede, civil war in skyrim. so i think cannibalism makes sense because its something that you can just do. Its not historically relevant its just a thing some people do. In this game it makes since in this freezing cold climate maybe if ur really hungry and its on hardcoe mode you can eat the flesh of ur fallen enemies to keep urself fed and warm.


okay, I'm new here, but your argument just serves to prove hellmouth's point. 'from 500-700 AD in human time nothing much happened' the technological level seen in TES is far closer to 500 AD than to 1800-2000 AD, and you're even saying that not much happened in that period. It would be expected, then, that cannibalism suddenly became socially acceptable because of yet another war (a fairly common occurence in tamriel).
that being said, i don't think cannibalism would be that far out of place assuming there's a 'hardcoe mode', otherwise, there would be no need to eat your dead enemies XD
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:32 pm

dude.. ur kidding right... 200 years is 200 years there is no such thing as 200 years in TES vs real life.
TES hasn't progressed for practically 1000 years, never mind the 3000 from before. Save for events where mythical avatars and gods make an appearance, the world of Nirn moves slow. Read the histories. 200 is not that long of a timespan to these people. Hell, that's half the life of a mer noble, and 1 generation of mer peasants. Plus, it's only been around a decade or two, the perfect time limit for things to happen, then centuries of a lull, which is exactly what is happening. It's a constant cycle of something happens then centuries of a lull, something happens, centuries of a lull.

For actual advancement, it's as though Nirn went from ~1000 A.D. to ~1300 A.D. in the last 4000 years of recorded history.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:20 am

No. It falls under "stupid evil" and fits better in FO. I see no point.

Doing whatever it takes to stay alive is stupid and evil now? I'd say it's anything but that. It's not socially acceptable but it sure as hell beats starving or freezing to death.

EDIT: Besides, I don't think anyone wants it to be accepted my mainstream society in Nirn, it's something you do if you're truly desperate, you're out of food or health potions or whatever, you're in a hostile environment, you eat what you can and if the only thing there is a human corpse then you've got two options.

A: A guilty conscience (Possibly) but a full belly.
B: Starving or freezing to death, or being torn apart by some animal or monster because you're too weak to fight back.

Now tell me, which option really sounds worse?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:57 pm

Doing whatever it takes to stay alive is stupid and evil now? I'd say it's anything but that. It's not socially acceptable but it sure as hell beats starving or freezing to death.

EDIT: Besides, I don't think anyone wants it to be accepted my mainstream society in Nirn, it's something you do if you're truly desperate, you're out of food or health potions or whatever, you're in a hostile environment, you eat what you can and if the only thing there is a human corpse then you've got two options.

A: A guilty conscience (Possibly) but a full belly.
B: Starving or freezing to death, or being torn apart by some animal or monster because you're too weak to fight back.

Now tell me, which option really sounds worse?


The only problem with this is that as far as I know, they haven't confirmed a 'hardcoe mode' in which you would actually need food or something.
Otherwise, you could just wait an hour or two and be back in ship-shape.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:07 am

The 'it doesn't fit TES' argument doesn't make sense since cannibalism is part of the established lore already. The 'it's bad for the age rating' argument doesn't make much sense since it was included in both FO3 and FNV.

Cannibalism is an important part of Bosmer culture so an option to cannibalise would be great for playing a Bosmer character.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:11 pm

isnt this really an arguement of conditional morality versus absolute morality?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 2:58 am

The thing that gets me with Cannibalism is did people really think it added that much to fallout 3? Maybe I could understand if there hardcoe mode in FO3 or stimpaks were rare, but neither of those are true... all it was really, really useful for was purposefully getting negative karma without having to kill lots and lots of innocent (and some what useful) people. Then again I say this, that is what I used it for, getting negative Karma... maybe others got something else out of it? I am not saying I am against it, I am just curious if people really think it will add that much.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:29 pm

YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSS~!!!!!!!!!


Hehehe sorry but ya I mean sure you got food to eat but normal human food gets boring so time to go eat some flesh off your own race :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:41 pm

Well Bosmer can receive this as racial perk at beginning of game I believe thats fit to Lore
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Green_Pact
This non-vegetarian practice is part of the Meat Mandate, a section of the pact that also states a Bosmer must eat his fallen enemy; this cannibalistic nature sets them apart religiously from other nations. The Bosmer allegedly made the Green Pact with Y'ffre the Forest Deity in return for Y'ffre's patronage and perhaps protection. As a result, the Bosmer use bone, animal, and insect products widely


Also there is some other example of Cannibalism in TES like
Draugr
Once, they were warriors much like the Skaal. Trapped and hungry on this island, they feasted on the flesh of their fallen comrades, which is a crime against nature. The All-Maker cursed them with undeath, forever doomed to walk the land in search of more of the flesh of man to consume. — Korst Wind-Eye

Description: This undead type of northern barbarians haunts the resting places of the old graves on Solstheim. Their mad search for flesh makes them fierce fighters, resisting all kinds of attacks, they can only be slain by brute force.
Found: Often found in Barrows.
Note: In Norse mythology, a draugr was an undead creature believed to inhabit the tombs of dead viking warriors.


Act of consume of Beating Heart thats also an form of Cannibalism
http://oblivion.wikia.com/wiki/Beating_Heart
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:45 pm

The thing that gets me with Cannibalism is did people really think it added that much to fallout 3? Maybe I could understand if there hardcoe mode in FO3 or stimpaks were rare, but neither of those are true... all it was really, really useful for was purposefully getting negative karma without having to kill lots and lots of innocent (and some what useful) people. Then again I say this, that is what I used it for, getting negative Karma... maybe others got something else out of it? I am not saying I am against it, I am just curious if people really think it will add that much.


It would add alot, for some people who just want to be a cannibal (in game). For example I pretty much like to do, in game, the opposite of what I'd do in life and I'm a vegan in real life, there'fore I want to be a cannibal in game.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:38 pm

No.

Isn't it enough that the dragons eat us?!
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:31 pm

No. It falls under "stupid evil" and fits better in FO. I see no point.

Stupid evil?
I think actually not evil at all and not stupid at all.
You're just being ignorant.

No.

Isn't it enough that the dragons eat us?!

How does that... ugh... never mind. -.-
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:01 pm

No.

Isn't it enough that the dragons eat us?!

Well Isn't it good eat an well roasted Dragon Steak then?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:37 pm

Why the [censored] would the Dark Brotherhood leave such evidence behind? The DB isn't evil stupid, they're just assassins! I swear, OB has turned people's heads into mush. Ugh...



Heavily implied. Also, I've never ever said they were saints. They're assassins who kill for money, not to eat people.

Like I said again, Oblivion has turned people's heads into mush. Now, tell me, why is cannibalism perfect for the Dark Brotherhood, who strive to keep themselves secret, unless the contractor wishes to make a statement?


Ok, gotta stop you there. Going off on some tangent based on your extremely biased and entirely non-official opinion about the DB in Oblivion is uncalled for. The developers at Bethesda made Oblivion, just like they made all the other TES games, and they created all the lore for the games....and yet you imply that how they were represented in Oblivion for some reason is not canon? Obviously, with the extensive DB quest line and the heavy influence of Sithis, the Night Mother, etc. , I would say the concept of being "evil" or at the very least participating in cannibalism fits just fine and would not be something outside of the realm in which the DB exists. Even the DLC evil lair supports the influence of an actual evil deity being involved directly with the DB in both the past and present. Furthermore, being 200 years in the future (despite your skewed perception of what can happen over time) should obviously be a setup for a lot of unexpected changes to have ocurred in Skyrim. That meaning even more changes to what we've seen in past lore will happen and will set new precedents for future games.

Point being, don't be critical of lore you don't agree with just because the devleopers themselves decide to add/change/delete some of it. If you don't like how the DB is represented in Oblivion, keep it as your own opinion only.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:39 pm

WTF for in the first way ?
Better start watching OP, we got some potential deranged mind.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 1:12 am

Uhm... why???? :mellow: :unsure:

It seems a bit disturbing.

In real life anything but occasional ritualistic cannibalism will cause braindamage and eventually kill the cannibal, by the way. :wacko:
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:25 am

Uhm... why???? :mellow: :unsure:

It seems a bit disturbing.

In real life anything but occasional ritualistic cannibalism will cause braindamage and eventually kill the cannibal, by the way. :wacko:

Enh.. this isn't real life. And remember, the bosmer believed in cannibalism.

as found in the green pact- "Eat Thy Neighbor."
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:20 pm

Why would we want Cannibalism? It's not a nuclear wasteland we're walking through, it's a highly populated province filled with towns and villages.

Hell yeah (I'm assuming you mean like in Fallout)! Not only is it useful for recovering health, but it's totally badass.


Where do you live? I want to stay as far away from it as possible. :wink_smile:
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:54 am

Cannibalism would be cool

" I ate his liver with some Fava beans and a nice Mead "
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 10:42 pm

I think it should be in. My character most likely wouldn't be a cannibal, but maybe he might slip in some desperate situation and then feel guilty of it... Or not.

Roleplaying! Well, I atleast want those human hearts for alchemy.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:23 pm

If vampirism and Lycanthropy are NOT in the game(Very unlikely) then I wouldn't mind cannibalism at al. I will accept anything that makes my character a pretenatural predator or a medieval "sicko".
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:47 pm

Racial ability for Bosmer perhaps?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:30 am

No, because years have passed, races have mingled, and archaic traditions have been given up in favour of logic and common sense.

Also, I don't like Bosmers. :disco:
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:05 pm

No, because years have passed, races have mingled, and archaic traditions have been given up in favour of logic and common sense.

Also, I don't like Bosmers. :disco:

Feel my wrath.... But still... I agree Bosmers in OB where too fat for my liking, no offence, but in Skyrim they are going to be more sinewy, and better.
:gun: :swear:
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