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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:37 am

In Fallout3 you have the choice of siding with the Enclave or the BoS Lyons, right ?
You can choose to obey Eden or kill him, right ?
You can choose to install FEV into Project Purity or not, right ?

And from what I've read is that there is NO canon for Tatics and Fo3, right ?

So how could this quote from wiki be there if its no been determined ?
"With the aid of the Lone Wanderer, and Liberty Prime, the Enclave is ousted from the Jefferson Memorial and thrown into disarray. After the events of Broken Steel, and the defeat of the Enclave remnants, the Capital Wasteland chapter has become as powerful and well-equipped as their sister chapters back west." :eek:

Should that line be there since no offical route has been chosen ? :confused:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel
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Cassie Boyle
 
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:22 am

While no official canon is stated. Based on the amount of BoS content versus Enclave content in Broken Steel, it's pretty obvious which way the wind blows in this case.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:39 pm

Anyone can edit the wiki, unfortunately. Since it's possible to destroy the Citadel at the end of Fallout 3 then that article is wrong; until we're actually told what the Lone Wanderer did (if we're ever told) then that's nothing more then speculation, and speculation has no place on a wiki that is supposed to only present facts to the reader.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:26 am

From a purely obstensively neutral stance, I get what you're saying Talon, but at the same time, you can't deny that the game pretty much kicks you into a cart and pushes you down the BoS track. It's pretty obvious that the BoS destruction bit is just a hastily rushed alternative for the BoS haters.

Edit: You make a point, perhaps in the wiki it could state 'based on how much content the Brotherhood gets versus the Enclave, it could likely be assumed the Brotherhood of Steel route could be canon.'
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:25 am

Sure, and I doubt the Citadel being destroyed will become canon but that's not the point. Even if it's obvious that Bethesda wanted the player to side with the Brotherhood we're given multiple possibilities at the very end, and none of them have been used for another game yet. The wiki is supposed to be a neutral source for information, speculation doesn't really have any place on it... what if Bethesda actually does mention that the Lone Wanderer destroyed the Citadel in Fallout 4? The possibility is there in Broken Steel, so the possibility that this path will become canon is there as unlikely as it may seem.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:55 am

That's true, but if the wiki is to provide facts. We need to wipe out all trivia unless a dev tells us explicitly yea or nay. I mean seriously, have you read some of the crap on the Wiki? 'The Bravo Bravo Charlie the doctor is on his way' is a reference to Doctor Who? I mean, there's so much information being pulled from the Encyclopedia of Thin Air it's ridiculous :shakehead:
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:35 am

I'm aware, I don't really read the wiki much anymore. According to the wiki the Fallout 2 Enclave's FEV strain only affects mutants, and was only going to be being used on the 'Core Region' despite the actual game saying that the virus kills mutated humans and pure humans indiscriminately, and that the Enclave was going to cleanse the entire globe by releasing it into the jet stream. There's a lot of incorrect information and speculation on there.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:30 am

When it comes to the core quest in a RPG, I think assuming the "Most Good" option is canon is reasonable.

This falls down with NV, (and to a lesser extent Tactics) as "good" is left to the user to decide
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:42 pm

Im about 99.99999% sure the lone wanderer did not blow up the bos. The fev only made people sick, but did not kill the, so Broken Steel snuffs out the fev either way. Fo3 is about as close to canon as you can possibly get. Only important question is did he let Autum go?
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:36 am

There's a lot of incorrect information and speculation on there.


Yes there is. And I'm, noticing more and more of it.

Many of the faction pages contain information that's simply speculation and thats not even cited. The wiki needs an overhaul.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:23 am

Yup, I'm gonna start looking at all the BoS pages in the next few days and see what I can fix.

Also, it's overwhelmingly likely that the BoS is the canon ending, we just won't know for sure.
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Post » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:43 am

The tactics ending isn't spelled out but implied
1# The MWBoS is described as small and having fallen on hard times during Broken Steel.
2# The Calulator was based in Colorado, which is the same state the Legion begain in.

Had the calulator survived there is no way Caeser's Legion could have been come to dominate the Colorado, Utah and Arizona. It probably couldn't have even been born as the MWBoS with the caluator would be a mighty nation by the time Caeser would have started the legion.
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