I loved new vegas for its freedom and most of all the faction system even though fallout 3 was much more linear i felt as if i enjoyed fallout 3 more story wise and gameplay i cant figure out why.

Well that's great. I can easily determine why I like NV more than FO3.

It's an opinion thing. Maybe you liked FO3 better because it was your first fallout, or maybe it was just something else that made it feel good to you. The important thing is, you like and can enjoy both games.

Be warned though, this will turn into a vs thread by the second page. You'll hear a lot of bashing of FO3 and NV. My advice: don't get svcked in.

I hated the way I couldn't play a single game of Fallout 3 without some random car blowing up and killing everything in a three mile radius. Thank god everyone already jacked the engines out of the cars in the Mojave to sell for gambling money.

I also recently picked FO3 back up to try it (after finding a working Windows 7 fix) and was surprised at how damn hard it was compared to New Vegas. Mostly because any idiot with a grenade or a rocket launcher could potentially kill everyone within a three mile radius, whereas in Vegas, the player may not even have to confront the most difficult battles, depending on the decisions they make. FO3 also wants you to waste a ridiculous amount of ammo just to kill one Radscorpion, and there's a radscorpion every 10 feet. Granted, all this does provide for a nice "struggling-to-survive" atmosphere, since ammo is scarce and every battle could be your last.

It is the writting right?

Yes it was my first.

Yes, Dario, that is one of the major reasons. Also, the setting is way better. A desert full of warring tribes or a ruined city full of random dudes, not a tough choice for me.

Also, Longknife, I felt both games were rather easy. Both games started out where my character was fairly weak and I had to struggle to defeat certain encounters, but they both also ended up with my character being a demigod that could take on anything without breaking a sweat. Both, by about halfway, I was loaded with tons of weapons and armor and so much ammo and so many stimpacks that I could never conceivably use them all.

If anything, the only aspect of NV that would make it easier than FO3 is companions. I feel they are a bit OP. When I replay NV, hardcoe very hard mode, I will not use a single companion the entire game.

Yeah both can be made easy, but the difference is the prevelance of the tough fights. If you play New Vegas and you chose not to confront Caesar in his tent, befriend the Boomers, never visit any Deathclaw nests, talk your way out of your problems with the BoS and avoid Camp Golf when you have bad NCR rep, then you've avoided all the tough fights. In FO3, you can be as passive as you like, but the moment you hit level 26, you're gonna have to fight 4 deathclaws every 5 minutes, and each of them take at least one clip of ammo to take down.

FO3 is easy mode though the moment you realize how overpowered VATS is. You take like 0 damage in VATS but you deal a ton to others. VATS in New Vegas is a joke by comparison; I did horrible the first time I replayed FO3 simply because I was so used to free range shooting in NV. I was wondering why my damage svcked and why my shots kept missing, then I rediscovered VATS and things got so much easier. :biggrin:

Simple because FALLOUT 3 IS EPIC.

ORLY?

Deathclaws in FO3 seemed a lot easier to me. I never spent a full clip on any of them but I stick with very powerful weapons by that point in the game.

I don't think any game with quick saving and quick loading can really be described as hard because what's the penalty for failure? Replaying a few seconds. Or like games with checkpoints where when you die, you respawn at the checkpoint. Without a major consequence for failure, like a game over screen that forces you to replay the game from the start, any talk of difficulty rings a bit hollow to me. I don't think this is a bad thing, per se. I've played enough games where I don't necessarily require the core game to be that difficult. There are certainly ways of playing FO3 or FONV that would be ridiculously hard, but they are completely user based. An example I like to use is from Resident Evil 4. To make the game harder for me, I replayed the game on pro mode using nothing but pistols and the combat knife. Without rocket launchers, machine guns, sniper rifles, shotguns, and so on, the game becomes dramatically more difficult. It's a self imposed restriction that you can not prove, but I've never needed to prove to other people that I can surpass a challenge. I play challenging things for the fun of defeating a challenge.

Each game has its pros and cons for me, so to me they're both really equal in terms of which I like better. FO3 was my first Fallout, FNV my second, and now I plan on playing 1, 2, and Tactics so... One of my favorite, if not the favorite, game series of all time. Kinda hard to decide which is better, because in some aspects one is better than the other, I'll always like FO3 a smidge more simply because it got me into the series. Other than that, I love the whole damn series. :celebration:

I played the original Fallout when it came out but I never finished it or even came close. I remember being burnt out on RPGs at the time. It was 1997 so the RPGs that burnt me out had to be Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy Tactics, probably some games like Wild Arms. By 1998 with Baldur's Gate I was heavily playing RPGs again so I'm not sure what exactly it was about Fallout 1 since it's been so long. I just never got into it.

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i loved the car thing. i want more cars in the next game for this reason.sure it fooked you up but was still fun.i remember sneaking about dc ruins thinking i was hidden behind loads of cars.a super mutant sniper missed me and hit a car.i was blown miles away and in 1st person all i could see was the sky flying past me.the explosions lasted for ages.huge fun but painful :biggrin:

Finally! Someone else that enjoyed the car explosions!!!!! Then again, all explosions amuse me greatly. :flamethrower:

Don't get me wrong, they can be amusing too...

But if you try to do a playthrough without dying once, they're an absolute nightmare. I have a character on New vegas that has completed Dead Money (even managed to escape with all the gold) and every quest from the main game EXCEPT the main ones and a couple NCR/Legion ones that would tick off the other group if I did them. That character has also killed all the Legendary creatures of the Mojave. I did all that without a death.

But Fallout 3? Took me like a year to get lucky (and skilled) enough to know where to avoid cars and know how to survive idiots with Rocket Launchers, and after completing all the main game quests, getting 70% of the skill books/bobbleheads and only having Point Lookout and Anchorage remaining, what happened? I died. Died because NPC "comrades" of mine shot four Fatmen at a door that I was trying to remember how to open during Anchorage.

Sooooo many explosions. Soooo irritating if you try to play dead-is-dead style.

Ahh, I can see the dellema then. I should really try this some time. Thanks for giving me a temp fix for my boredom. :thumbsup:

Feel free to try it on New Vegas, but don't try it on FO3. It's just too damn frustrating on FO3... :brokencomputer:

ah who cares if ya die,its all part of the fun.just gotta make sure ya save often.itd be pretty borin if nothin could hurt you.like when you use a god mode cheat on games where you can and then realise your bored as hell now.if ya get killed then ya gotta learn to play better.ya cant improve without mistakes

exactly!took you a year.how many of these crap churned out games are you still playing after a year.i bought modern warfare 2 played it for a week and now its a dust collector.good game but not value for money

i live NV and FO3 equally

i loved blowin megaton just to see the mushroom cloud.on nv the cars make a mini mushroom cloud.now im itchin to blow something up.shame im at work.do you think anyone will notice.hope the government aint readin this i may be in guantanamo this time next week.

Yup it has EPICNESS WITH A SIDE OF AWESOME FRIES.

It's the same for me. I started with F3 and then got F:NV and now I'm playing the originals. I can't really get enough of Fallout :fallout:

Same haha. :fallout: Its like my excitement boils over and explodes whenever I hear something new against Fallout.