I didn't do anything to the diner. So that's not this mod.

Weird, then...

There are no tables in the diner in the default game, just counters and chairs. Is it possible you were using another CC mod (eg. CC Embiggened or CC Boomtown) that added tables, so they 'disappeared' when you removed that mod?

Someone requested that I modify the diner because it is such an eyesore. It's not my "to do" list because it is located in the exterior Wasteland space and also because I am going to open up the A-Cup-Joe building next (and most of the NPCs I added will start eating there instead of the diner--which is overflowing right now).

Yeah, I think that was it.

I modified the diner with tables/chairs and some other furniture in Fallout Food - if you ever used that, that could be the explanation.

Cheers,

Coleen

Yep, that makes sense.

Thanks for making this. Canterbury seems very suited for a project like this. Have you considered reopening the stores that have been shutdown because of the Superhuman Gambit issue? If finishing the quest it would be cool if those opened again after a while. Or perhaps this is covered by other Canterbury mods - I'm only using this one currently.

Hm...which are you referring to? The Cup-A-Joe and the barber shop?

Precisely. The old guy says something about that the fights have driven off shop keepers so it's bad for business. I thought he was referring to the boarded up Cup-A-Joe and the boarded barber shop in the opposite corner. But there are other possibilities as well.

Updated to 1.3
- renovated the interior of the warehouse to scale more closely to the exterior.
- added interiors for Cup-A-Joe.
- Welcome El Nada to Canterbury Commons!

Checking out the Cup 'a Joe - the guitar player in the corner - he seems to be missing his guitar! Other than that, so far I haven't found any other bugs.

Thanks for the heads up. I missed some files during packaging. Fixed version uploaded.

Thanks! I'm enjoying this mod a great deal.

I'm planning on releasing an updated version of Fallout Food with water purifiers, and I'd like to add one to Canterbury - are there any interiors I can use that won't conflict with your mod?

Oh! If you'd also like to make use of the 'full coffee mug' object from Fallout Food in the Cup 'a Joe, feel free to do so!

You can't conflict with my interiors unless you edit them in my plugin Only edits I've made to Canterbury Commons are the doors to the buildings, so mods that modify Canterbury Commons itself should be compatible (eg. changes to the diner). Or do you mean you want to edit one of the planked door to 'open up' one of the buildings for your mod? If so then eventually there might be conflict because my plan is to ultimately create interiors for all the non-accesible buildings.

LOVE IT
The Cup-a-joe is awesome, with the dude playing guitar
Although, the cashier bank lady at reception really annoys me! I have over 10,000 caps! LET ME OPEN AN ACCOUNT



I have, after annoying lady annoyed me! I was like, oo shiny blue thing....AAGGHHH!!! OH MY GOD!!! What the HELL!

Clinic would be a very good plan.

Maybe warehouses/homes for the wandering traders.

A hotel?

perhaps time things, so more shops open up after the two folks that live in the area are dealt with?

Even taking over their spaces when they are gone?

Taking a cue from the japanese in a way. Why not a public bath house? Ok so it sounds pervy. But thinking about it seriously. Just because most people live in a hell hole doesn't mean everyone wants to be filthy. The travelers and road hardened would pay top dol.....er....cap, for the chance to take a bath. I noticed Mothership Zeta Crew mod has a shower. Just have a row of them and a few tubs or something. Pay to get in and feel refreshed. Timers on npc's would also make it cool to see the npc's taking trips every few days to take a bath =)

When I got to CC one thing I didn't like (apart from the place being so small) was that it didn't have the exterior befitting a town. Now, while I understand you not wanting to mess around there to not slow down the machines of some people, I think it could to with just a little additions here and there. For example some sandbags, or those makeshift palisades. Some lookouts on a roof or two, or on the remains of that collapsed house or what it is just in front of town, near the water tower. I always thought that one looks like the perfect lookout against raiders or slavers. But no, plenty of ways for some uninvited guests. CC is by far the most unbelievable place in game. Even Girdershade is better fortified, Big Town by far. Places like Girdershade or Arefu even have some explanation to being there (hidden under or on the bridge, respectively). While CC is on a hill, it's not like the people utilize it.

He's made another mod that adds guards around Canterbury, if that's something you'd be interested in.

A bathhouse and a hotel are interesting ideas. Keep in mind though that I cannot use content from DLCs without making this mod dependent on the DLC (copyright). That's why I didn't use the safe and the vault doors from Point Lookout for the CC bank.

I won't do any major overhauls to the exterior wasteland space in this mod. I may expand the CC Guards mod in the future though, but keeping it separate from this mod so people can choose whether they want more 'clutter' outside of the buildings. Once I am satisfied I've opened up as many buildings as I can, I'll give this mod a 'once over' to insert some minor things, like being able to actually buy a cup of Joe from Cup-A-Joe, or possibly making the 'deposit caps' feature for the bank (I'll need to do some extra voice files for that).

There's a mod that lets you set up a bank account that you can access through merchants with interest and everything. I'd suggest looking at that and maybe talking to the creator, it'd be pretty cool to make that account accessible through the CC bank.

EDIT: Here it is.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3440

I still think it would be neat if a couple of stores would open up after finishing the quest. It would tie in nicely with the backstory of the place.

I can make the doors inaccessible until the Mechanist/Angatonizer quest is complete. I had thought about doing this after I decide what the building across the street from Cup-A-Joe should be, and then write a script for the doors to Cup-A-Joe and that building together (they seem like the the 2 buildings most affected by the M vs. A fighting).

Although, the thing is, I am not sure I agree with this from an RP standpoint. Porter Joe might have mentioned that the conflict between the Mechanist and the Antagonizer was driving some businesses away - I don't entirely recall if he did or did not say this or if those were his exact words - but by that I infer he meant some potential customers would not approach the town if they saw fighting going on, and also the mess/clutter/infrastructure damage created by the fighting makes it more difficult to move around. By all accounts, the Mechanist and the Antagonizer were not really threatening the town, they were more a 'nuisance' than anything else, which is why Porter Joe preferred the player handle the situation in a 'peaceful' fashion. I can see how the fighting can negatively affect the operations of the shops by deterring some visitors and driving down business, but I don't know if they would be sufficiently disruptive as to actually cause some shops to close for business altogether, especially when the town people's livelihood depend on the trade.

I'll give some more thought to this, but I'll put it on my 'potential to-do' list for now.

This compatible with "The Refuge?" That mod apparently adds an interior to "Cuppa Joe," but I'd really like both since this adds immersion and that mod adds a few quests.

When I loaded this mod into the GECK by accident, I got an error message saying it was changing some reference, some door IIRC. Is this anything to be worried about? I removed it just in case but I figured I may as well ask if this is something that's known.