1 word vertabirds.

I know!! :teehee: And I want to give it to them but, remember the NCR has them to. And to win a war its going to take a lot more then air power to win it.

Ncr has 1 vertabird known if liberty prime was prime he would maul and if you used the mirv tactically say firing from a vertabird and hoarded some mini nukes that could cripple the mojave ohh and reavers overlords and albino radscorpions.

Troll alert...

Huh?

Some people are actually trying to be realistic and are actually thinking about who would win will you treat it like a joke, and its your thread!

I have said plenty of serious answers and yes it is my thread so ill say what the fudge i want have you got any beef ?

No, ran out yesterday, I do have some pork but I don't understand what meat has to do with anything?

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Lol and i'm a troll eat my meat.

Damn IT! I can believe im standing up for NV :facepalm: Ok you got Vertabirds well NV has artillery that can fire from hundreds of miles away,you got prime they have a army of thousands of robots, you got mini nukes and so do they,you got trogs and hill billy's, and aliens, they got the three family's, f3 has a army of slavers they have the Legion,you got an army of mutant and so do they. same for the reavers,radscorpions,and deathclaws,you got the kickass Bortherhood Of Steel plus the Outcast :mohawk: and NV has the cry baby's who stay in there hole because, they don't want to get a boo boo!!!!Godddd, I hate them!!! I give you that one hands down. :swear: Ok what else you got Talon company they got the Kings,and the guys at free-side that sell laser weapons and the Khans,You got the Enclave they got NCR. And thats really about it for Fallout 3 unless you want to throw the towns in their as well, I would give that one to NV for man power? You got raiders they got fiends. You know what I think their even it's just the fact that the Mojave pro able easily out numbers them 10 to 1 and thats not even counting on all the DLC they haven't realest.Now if we are also talking about where they are going to have this Epic show down that would help.

Dude your the one who brought up meat not me! Seriously what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Have you never heard some say what's you're beef of anything like that it means like do you have any problems and stuff of that variation wow and i thought super mutants where stupid.

I am stupid because I am using the real definition of beef? That makes a [censored] ton of sense. You don't have to be so rude, not everyone uses these stupid slang words. And for your information no I didn't have any "beef".

EDIT: Wow, this was my 3000th post.

There only stupid if theve been exposed to radiation

If you say that to marcus or Neil your gonna get beaten

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5 words missle launcher will destroy them

LOL middle? or missle?

more words

Vertibirds are shot down easily, the Mk.2 Securitron has anti-air missile capability, the NCR has the full force of a modern military, CL has a fanatic and extremely tough land army, the BoS in the Mojave have T-51B and Gauss Rifles, whereas the CWBoS have T-45D and Assault Rifles/Laser Rifles, Liberty Prime would be tough but be eventually destroyed by ARCHIMEDES or the Pulse Gun, or just beaten to death with artillery shells and bullets, hey, individual bullets may hardly scratch him, but the NCR has ALOT of bullets, and eventually scratches will start to dig gashes in his armor, and he will die.

and wow, OPTIM-- LIBERTY PRIME TIME, you are really being rather rude, people respond with ideas against your bias, and you act as if their ideas are jokes, then you get all insulting when someone calls you on it.

Stupid iPod spell check!

Ya, like I said in my last post I think the Mojave would win.But, their is no way the Mojave chapter could ever take on the BoS of the CW. NO matter what they have,better equip yes,numbers? No ,Guts? No, Training? No where near the training they got out there in the CW.Shooting some bugs at night would never be the same as fighting through the DC area.Plus the Outcast.

1.vertibirds can only fly about 175-200 miles and dc to vegas Is 2,454. Miles that's about 14 refulels A vertibird that's gonna be alot of fuel
2. Artilery could hit liberty primes nukes he has and ka boom blows him up and other allies near him
3. Antimaterial rifles are ment to go through metal and steel so vertibirds are no match especialy if it's loaded with ap

From what I can see, missile launchers would be completely ineffective against a vertibird unless its landed in a stationary position. For the simple reason that the missile launchers in Fallout 3 or New Vegas don't appear to be laser guided/ heat seeking in any way, its just point and shoot, so it would be near impossible to hit a flying vertibird or one that is doing a bombing/strafing run.



Just curious, but when does it say that the Mk. 2 have effective anti-air capabilities? I know they have what appears to be effective land-based missiles, but I don't think those would be that effective against a flying vertibird for the same reason the regular missile launchers would be. House never says (as much as I can remember) "My Mk II's can bring down aircraft".

Vertibirds are also heavily armoured (one of the reasons they don't have a real long range) so a small RPG-like missile might not actually bring it down in the first place.



I think we're assuming that all combatants from the Mojave and CW were magically transported to a single area and then duked it out. If you bring limitations like that into it then the whole thing falls apart.

When vertibirds are landing there fairly vaulnrable to missles
mr.house or yes man says it when your in the basemant in the lucky 38 I think

Numbers, your right, but you are wrong on everything else. The West Coast are the true BoS, they have the best people that are raised in it and live the BoS life, the combat sims they have are the best available, and they have the best teachers, compared to the CWBoS which recruit wastelanders that can hardly even shoot.

Well they're not going to be sitting still when they're engaged in combat (bombing and such).

The vertibirds main advantage is the air-superiority they give, dropping off troops would be their one weak point but the Enclave doesn't necessarily have to do that in a full-fledged battle. The vertibirds would be in combat to give air support only I would guess.



I may be wrong on this but I don't remember that. I'll have to check it (its hard to hear House talking with all the explosions and gunfire from the securitrons so I may have missed that).