capital wasteland v mojave wasteland FIGHT! : Fallout Series Discussion

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:48 am

Numbers, your right, but you are wrong on everything else. The West Coast are the true BoS, they have the best people that are raised in it and live the BoS life, the combat sims they have are the best available, and they have the best teachers, compared to the CWBoS which recruit wastelanders that can hardly even shoot.

You got the East-cost BoS that are battle ready, turn,and scared plus the Outcast, all fighting a war against the Super Mutants and the Enclave all at the same time and your telling me a bunch of scared to go outside West-cost BoS chapter are going to teach them a lesson?Thats how I see it,you are going to have to really pull something out to make me believe that the Mojave chapter can really take out the Capital Wasteland Chapter.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:13 am

the Mojave chapter can really take out the Capital Wasteland Chapter.

1 on 1 they couldn't, its not even a contest really, and thats even without the Outcasts. The CW brotherhood is battle-hardened and despite what people think, well-trained. The Mojave Brotherhood say it themselves that their combat effectiveness has been greatly reduced since all they've been doing is training on simulations and sitting in a hole for so long, not only that but the CW brotherhood outnumbers the Mojave chapter by a comfortable amount.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:36 am

Actually it depend on how many destruction and massacre that lone wander done in wasteland and courier done in mojave :evil:

If lone wander done nothing while courier destroy most of the things in mojave, then mojave has no chance against wasteland :evil:

Oh wait, maybe courier alone destroy wasteland and kill lone wanderer...or vice versa...oh well.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:41 pm

Either way the cw bos lose

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:10 pm

No, the Mojave chapter lose.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:49 am

Either way the cw bos lose

Not if the Courer blew the mojave chapter up.....which is likely

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:40 am

Not if the Courer blew the mojave chapter up.....which is likely

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» Tue May 17, 2011 10:48 am

I may be wrong on this but I don't remember that. I'll have to check it (its hard to hear House talking with all the explosions and gunfire from the securitrons so I may have missed that).

Here's the full description of the robots.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1139/houseis.png

Sounds like the securitron army alone could take the whole CW.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:36 am

No, the Mojave chapter lose.

Mojave have a pulse gun that thing kills t-51 bos in one shot and cw have outdated t-45

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:48 am

Mojave have a pulse gun that thing kills t-51 bos in one shot and cw have outdated t-45

True, but that really doesn't matter to me because, if having better equipment helps that much, their the ones that should be running the entire West-cost by now, not hiding in a hole.It going to be Helios all over again.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:47 am

True, but that really doesn't matter to me because, if having better equipment helps that much, their the ones that should be running the entire West-cost by now, not hiding in a hole.It going to be Helios all over again.

Pulse gun only works on power armor and robots and not many people have it

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:18 am

But not everybody is equipped with one so how would that help in a battle between the two?

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:45 am

About securitron, it cant beat sentrybot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOiAsyrlU_k

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:10 am

From what I can see, missile launchers would be completely ineffective against a vertibird unless its landed in a stationary position. For the simple reason that the missile launchers in Fallout 3 or New Vegas don't appear to be laser guided/ heat seeking in any way, its just point and shoot, so it would be near impossible to hit a flying vertibird or one that is doing a bombing/strafing run.

Just curious, but when does it say that the Mk. 2 have effective anti-air capabilities? I know they have what appears to be effective land-based missiles, but I don't think those would be that effective against a flying vertibird for the same reason the regular missile launchers would be. House never says (as much as I can remember) "My Mk II's can bring down aircraft".

Vertibirds are also heavily armoured (one of the reasons they don't have a real long range) so a small RPG-like missile might not actually bring it down in the first place.

I think we're assuming that all combatants from the Mojave and CW were magically transported to a single area and then duked it out. If you bring limitations like that into it then the whole thing falls apart.

People make out as if liberty prime and vertibirds are super vulnerable how do you hit a vertibird that could be traveling at at least 200mph you don't see apache gun ships getting shot down by rpg's and a vertibrid should be more advanced if anything and if prime is fixed again i highly doubt any thing could have the time to scratch him 1 laser = 1 dead thing and then he has nukes = lots of dead things.And i think theres a couple pulse guns at most they may dent a vertibird but it would be very hard to hit it with the charge up at the start .

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:38 am

On the ground? Hmm... Mojave has endless waves of Cazadors bigger death claw population securitrons (especially MKII) better equiped BoS and I dunno, how would Legendary Death claw factor into this?

Since Liberty Prime was scripted and not really an entity if I recall I'm not sure how to count him in. I think Mojave has the outright advantage. It has alot of mean critters.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:53 am

On the ground? Hmm... Mojave has endless waves of Cazadors bigger death claw population securitrons (especially MKII) better equiped BoS and I dunno, how would Legendary Death claw factor into this?

Since Liberty Prime was scripted and not really an entity if I recall I'm not sure how to count him in. I think Mojave has the outright advantage. It has alot of mean critters.

Fo3 has meaner critters albino radscopion overlord and feral ghoul reaver (yes it's in fonv but it got beat with the nerf sledgehammer ) all have more hp than the legendary deathclaw.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:38 pm

Mojave have a pulse gun that thing kills t-51 bos in one shot and cw have outdated t-45

And CW BoS has Telsa cannons.....multiple ones

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:37 pm

i highly doubt any thing could have the time to scratch him 1 laser = 1 dead thing and then he has nukes = lots of dead things.

If artilery hits one of his nukes he's gonna explode

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:13 am

Fo3 has meaner critters albino radscopion overlord and feral ghoul reaver (yes it's in fonv but it got beat with the nerf sledgehammer ) all have more hp than the legendary deathclaw.

legendary deathclaw: HP 850 DT 15 combat skill 100 attack damage 250 special damage 450
Reaver Hit Points 1100 Combat skill 100 Attack damage 100 Special damage 100

deathclaws do more damage 5 hits will kill a reaver while 10 is needed to kill a deathclaw

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:11 am

If artilery hits one of his nukes he's gonna explode

You can shoot him with 8 nukes no scratches still strolls along.And thats like me saying if i throw my spear it might hit that grenade in that guys pocket.1 legendary deathclaw about 500 reavers i wonder who is gonna win ohh yeah albino radscorpions,overlords as well.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:35 am

it's all about the supplies. from gun runners to the van graffs to the farms, mojave has the best supplies and the best supply chain with crimson caravan and the legion. DC lacks organization, clean food and water, and a steady supply source. just the ncr and the legion could wipe out DC. legion controls everything south of california and nevada, while ncr controls california probably up to the canadian border with washington state. their numbers alone would crush DC. throw in the aforementioned supplies and superior military organization, it's gonna be a ref stopping the fight beat down as DC gets bloodied badly.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:47 am

it's all about the supplies. from gun runners to the van graffs to the farms, mojave has the best supplies and the best supply chain with crimson caravan and the legion. DC lacks organization, clean food and water, and a steady supply source. just the ncr and the legion could wipe out DC. legion controls everything south of california and nevada, while ncr controls california probably up to the canadian border with washington state. their numbers alone would crush DC. throw in the aforementioned supplies and superior military organization, it's gonna be a ref stopping the fight beat down as DC gets bloodied badly.

Um who said california could come to play anything out side mojave wasteland isn't allowed.

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:52 pm

You can shoot him with 8 nukes no scratches still strolls along.And thats like me saying if i throw my spear it might hit that grenade in that guys pocket.1 legendary deathclaw about 500 reavers i wonder who is gonna win ohh yeah albino radscorpions,overlords as well.

he's scripted to not be killed
mojave has ncr with amr rifles in shure they can take them out by hitting his nukes

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:34 am

As said before it's about supplys where are the people from dc going to get the supplys to survive and keep shooting

The boomers would send in there bomber and bomb the people from dc and fire artilery at them do the people from dc have artilery? No
they only have people and vertibirds which securitrons can shoot down
ncr vets would kill the bos no problem dc super mutants have numbers but there stupid while mojave ones are smart and would ambush them

also mojave had DT which is far superior compared to DR

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:15 am

he's scripted to not be killed
mojave has ncr with amr rifles in shure they can take them out

I forgot amr can kill scripted robots.And say they could kill prime could maul them in less than a sec.