Cathay Khajiit : V

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:49 am

The Khajiit in the new http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/116/1162158/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-20110415033047799.jpg looks bulkier and larger than we've previously seen.
Do you think it could be a Cathy or Cathy-raht breed, as opposed to the Ohmes-raht of Daggerfall and Suthay-raht of Morrowind and Oblivion?

For those who want to know more about the various breeds: http://www.imperial-library.info/content/khajiit-physiology-phases-and-forms
(Is "breed" really the right word here? I've never been sure.)

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:33 am

I'd say Cathay. Larger than the Suthay-Raht we have seen, but not nord huge (maybe slightly bigger), which would be the Cathay-Raht.

And since attributes have been done away with, I can accept seeing Cathays without breaking the race balance.

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:41 pm

I thought so, too. But maybe it's just that body customization is improved so much that we can build our own "breed".

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:20 am

Yeah, I've been wondering that as well...

OH OH! Maybe we can choose between Suthay-Raht and Cathay-Raht at character creation, similar to the way the other races can select the muscle build!

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:00 am

While I like your explanation, I really think the armor he's wearing is metal and fur, adding to his bulky appearance. But yeah, your explanation still works.

Wow, I love that picture so much, I've made it the desktop on my Mac. Now I can study it when I'm bored.

~ Dani ~

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:49 am

Is it just me or does he look furrier besides the obvious fur armor he is wearing?

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:57 am

I was really hoping their fur would be white like a Siberian tiger

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:51 am

Wait...it doesn't have jaguar patterns, which is another defining feature of a Cathay, other than being the largest bipedal breed (well, Cathay-Raht being the largest and Cathay the second largest). Still looks to be a Suthay-Raht, unless fur patterns can be adjusted.

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:00 am

Is it just me or does he look furrier besides the obvious fur armor he is wearing?

Yeah, I think you're right - and it looks like he has a beard.

~ Dani ~

God, there's an entire story in that picture alone. I think my first character will be Khajiit.

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:54 pm

I was really hoping their fur would be white like a Siberian tiger

Well, you can choose skin tone in Oblivion, maybe there'll be different fur patterns and colors here.

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:21 am

While I like your explanation, I really think the armor he's wearing is metal and fur, adding to his bulky appearance. But yeah, your explanation still works.

Wow, I love that picture so much, I've made it the desktop on my Mac. Now I can study it when I'm bored.

~ Dani ~

Yeah, the armor surely contributes, but you can see he's got a very thick and muscular neck, a pretty broad torso, and a massive bicep.

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:50 pm

Wait...it doesn't have jaguar patterns, which is another defining feature of a Cathay, other than being the largest bipedal breed (well, Cathay-Raht being the largest and Cathay the second largest). Still looks to be a Suthay-Raht, unless fur patterns can be adjusted.

You're right, so it's not a Cathay-Raht. Sadness is me.

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:09 am

Wait...it doesn't have jaguar patterns, which is another defining feature of a Cathay, other than being the largest bipedal breed (well, Cathay-Raht being the largest and Cathay the second largest). Still looks to be a Suthay-Raht, unless fur patterns can be adjusted.

I didn't know Cathay had jaguar patterns. I thought they were just called "jaguar-men" for being large, fierce, and of course cat-like?

Is there any mention of that besides the Pocket Guide?
Because if not, I'm sure it could easily be addressed. There's bound to be wide variation in coat color and pattern anyways.

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:07 am

Damn, I will probably spend a couple of days just playing with the character editor!

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:34 am

Eh, when I see Jaguar-men, I think they also have a jaguar fur pattern. I don't even think the TES book offers a description of fur pattern either, other than Cathays being buff.

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:57 am

Eh, when I see Jaguar-men, I think they also have a jaguar fur pattern. I don't even think the TES book offers a description of fur pattern either, other than Cathays being buff.

My avatar is a great example of Cathayness. Thanks to Mr. Wesley for his Morrowind mods!

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:26 am

Yeah, the armor surely contributes, but you can see he's got a very thick and muscular neck, a pretty broad torso, and a massive bicep.

Yeah, I went back and looked at Oblivion Khahiits and I think you're right.

BTW, do you think we're seeing a new set of armor? I mean, it looks like Fur, but that metal piece is too heavy to be on basic fur armor, isn't it?

It's beautifully done, whatever it is.

~ Dani ~

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:50 am

I think it's Suthay-raht

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:56 am

Eh, when I see Jaguar-men, I think they also have a jaguar fur pattern. I don't even think the TES book offers a description of fur pattern either, other than Cathays being buff.

Well, melanistic jaguars without the characteristic pattern comprise 6% of the population, so it could still be.

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:34 am

Well, melanistic jaguars without the characteristic pattern comprise 6% of the population, so it could still be.

:rolleyes:

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:33 pm

Yeah, I went back and looked at Oblivion Khahiits and I think you're right.

BTW, do you think we're seeing a new set of armor? I mean, it looks like Fur, but that metal piece is too heavy to be on basic fur armor, isn't it?

It's beautifully done, whatever it is.

~ Dani ~

Whatever it is, I do like it. Hopefully it's indicative of a broader, or at least different, set of armors than we had in Oblivion.

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:01 am

Yeah, I went back and looked at Oblivion Khahiits and I think you're right.

BTW, do you think we're seeing a new set of armor? I mean, it looks like Fur, but that metal piece is too heavy to be on basic fur armor, isn't it?

It's beautifully done, whatever it is.

~ Dani ~

Heh heh, maybe it is Nordic Fur Armor!

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:27 pm

Could always be a retcon. Too early to tell, in my opinion. Looks bad ass, in any case.

» Tue May 03, 2011 1:59 am

Whatever it is, I do like it. Hopefully it's indicative of a broader, or at least different, set of armors than we had in Oblivion.

In one of the radio interviews, Todd Howard suggested that they would be making Skyrim unique armors and then made reference to Morrowind, which had the standard group and a few extra sets. So in Morrowind, we got the "bug" armor sets, in Oblivion we got the standard plus guard, legion, Blades, and Arena (which always made sense to me).

Can't wait to see what we get in Skyrim.

~ Dani ~

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:28 am

Could always be a retcon. Too early to tell, in my opinion. Looks bad ass, in any case.

It would be a very minor and easy-to-explain retcon, so I'm hoping that's the case. I want to see a new variety of my favorite race.