Cats?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:55 am

well then, in the Fallout world cats would prob be even bigger then the rodents, no?

Not necessarily. For example, the dogs hardly mutated at all.
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Holli Dillon
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:05 am

you really wont give the cats a chance now do you :P

but still i think that cats shouldve have survived as much as dogs or cows.
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Matt Fletcher
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:24 pm

If people are going to start agriculture they need radcats to fend off giant rats.

There was that country in South-East Asia where cat became the latest craze in restaurants. Soon after, plague and famine struck as the rodent population exploded, spreading diseases and rauaging fields. Cats, useless?



One major reason for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death was witch-hunt going on in the Europe. Cats were killed and rats got out off ships and spread the plague all around.

Most of people in monasteries didn't get sick. People thought it was miracle of god, but nuns and monks kept cats as pets (They didn't get burned in a witch fire because having a cat.). Coincidence? I hardly think so.


Thats why cats are important in a world without clean water and good hygienic.
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Louise Dennis
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:11 pm

None of you get it do you?

Cats > Rats....

After the bombs...

Molerats > Cats...
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Rik Douglas
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:11 pm

Sorry, it doesn't go this way. It's more like this:


Cats > Rats...

After the bombs...

http://www.nbc.com/Video/videos/snl_1445_lasercats.shtml > Molerats...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:27 pm

I dunno about the USA, but if Fallout-style radiation and that FEV in the air hit those big jaguards, ocelots and some incredibly-feral cats, then we would have the problem of Mutant Cats. That would't be pretty.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:40 pm

Dogs are scavengers, not hunters, so they would not survive without humans presence. Of course, they can live as stray dogs, but without humans trash, etc they would die. Cats in other hand, can hunt their own food.


While the exotic breeds would die out, the canine strain wouldn't. A few generations (Which go by pretty quickly for dogs) of cross-breeding and you get feral dogs which, actually, can hunt pretty effectively... provided their prey hasn't grown ten times larger or learned to spit fire ;)

But there's a reason dogs are considered "Man's best friend" - we wouldn't abandon them, I suspect, in a post-apocalyptic world. They have far keener senses than we do, make excellent trackers, hunting aids, sentries, and yes, companions.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:48 am

and yes, companions.

sixual?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:14 pm

sixual?




Main Entry:
com?pan?ion
Pronunciation:
\kəm-ˈpan-yən\
Function:
noun
Usage:
often attributive
Etymology:
Middle English compainoun, from Anglo-French cumpaing, cumpaignun, from Late Latin companion-, companio, from Latin com- + panis bread, food ? more at food
Date:
13th century

1: one that accompanies another : comrade , associate ; also : one that keeps company with another
2 obsolete : rascal
3 a: one that is closely connected with something similar b: one employed to live with and serve another
4: a celestial body that appears close to another but that may or may not be associated with it in space



Clearly, I meant that dogs are small moons orbiting another body in space.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:59 pm

so as soon society collapse, you just drop your favourite cat thats been your friend for several years and pick up a dog?

this sound more like racism against cats. >:(

sixual?


i guess, if you into that, the wasteland is huge and can prob get lonely in the long run.

but you better hope that ASPCA didnt mutate into animal rescuing Super-Mutants though. ;)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:47 pm

so as soon society collapse, you just drop your favourite cat thats been your friend for several years and pick up a dog?

this sound more like racism against cats. >:(


Actually, if it happened in real life, I'd probably kill my cat and bury him, so that he died peacefully, instead of half-starved when I grew too hungry for meat during the first long winter.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 am

Domestic Cats did indeed die out, either though radiation, predators or humans. I think that it was said that only domestic cats died out, as they were easy prey due to not regonizing humans as predators. Feral Cats probrably still exist, living on Feral Cat Colonies and feeding on radroaches, any rats smaller than a mole rat, small ants, boatflies, Iguanas, any remaining small birds and scavenged food near human settlements. It would't surprise me if some humans towns tolerated feral cat colonies nearby as a way to control the rat population. Dogs are quite the trackers, but Cats are superior hunters. If a cat or more decides to pursue and eat you, you're DEAD. You have no way to survive make your time etctera, you know the drill. Ask the Kiwi. That, and Cats came from desert creatures, which means that they are prepared for the climate in the wasteland.

EDIT: Toxoplasma gondii is probrably going to keep Cats alive. I don't think it's simply going to go away, specially from the smaller breeds of rat.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:30 pm

If a cat or more decides to pursue and eat you, you're DEAD. You have no way to survive make your time etctera, you know the drill. Ask the Kiwi.


Shooting them works rather well.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 pm

Shooting them works rather well.


Well, I didn't count humans as prey for cats. Unless you're not talking about normal felines, but big, feral felines. Shooting works rather well in that case, though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:44 pm

My monitor lizard killed my moms cat and if cats are such great hunters why dose my dog kill them?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:28 pm

Sorry, it doesn't go this way. It's more like this:


Cats > Rats...

After the bombs...

Lasercats > Molerats...


Wow, that woke me up. I freaking love you that was halarious. :rofl:

anyways, my cat just died so I'm able to be unbiast, Dogs can do this and that and are usefull and all, but, so are cats dudes. It all just depends as what you see as directly or passively beneficial. Cats wouldn't be around today if they weren't usefull, or smart, same goes for dogs. You guys are arguing stupid points (excuse my slovokian), cats and dogs both kick ass, we should be ripping on more retarded stuff like brain powered robots or why the hell gouls can run in FO3 when that goes against Fallout Lore in the earlier games :grad: , clearly explaining they couldn't. Not why two different awesome, useful, animals aren't given equal attention.

But yeah! What the hell? Mabye some of us like seeing kitties every now and then? They shoulda just made some kinda mutated cat people like Bethesda did... (Khajiit) :hehe:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:26 pm

My monitor lizard killed my moms cat and if cats are such great hunters why dose my dog kill them?


cuz dogs are bigger and have bigger jaws to bite cats with....seriously you should teach your dog not to kill cats, thats just plain wrong.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:59 pm

Actually, if it happened in real life, I'd probably kill my cat and bury him, so that he died peacefully, instead of half-starved when I grew too hungry for meat during the first long winter.

Unless your cat is a fat lazy type like Garfield, it stands a better chance of survival than you do, the cat is much better at stealth hunting than a dog and certainly a much better scavenger.
I could envision feral cats in the FO3 world, quiet, fast, vicious and deadly.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:25 am

Unless your cat is a fat lazy type like Garfield, it stands a better chance of survival than you do, the cat is much better at stealth hunting than a dog and certainly a much better scavenger.
I could envision feral cats in the FO3 world, quiet, fast, vicious and deadly.


Keep in mind that cats don't run down their prey, they ambush and hunt, using trees, and long grasses. Even a Cheetah in the Savannah is unable to successfully capture alot of food if it's spotted too early, and its unable to sustain long distance running that it's prey usually can. How many big bushy trees and long paddocks of reeds did you see in *any* of the Fallout games? Human crops would be about the only place you could so such a thing. Hiding/hunting in a cave is more likely to make them wind up as Radscorpion food.

Think about it. Your tom cat Jerry. He doesn't run down the ally way swatting birds out of the air with his great speed, he stalks it from either a ledge or somesuch and pounces on the thing. Feral cats are simply just bigger, far more aggresive and able to take down bigger prey.

Dogs are scavengers, not hunters, so they would not survive without humans presence. Of course, they can live as stray dogs, but without humans trash, etc they would die. Cats in other hand, can hunt their own food.


You are an idiot, please read something on animal behavior or the very least watch a discovery channel documentry on dogs before giving remarkable insight to the nature of dogs and their inability to survive independently (because we all know dogs didn't exist at all before domestication).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:13 am

cuz dogs are bigger and have bigger jaws to bite cats with....seriously you should teach your dog not to kill cats, thats just plain wrong.

Why would i do that? I'ts natural for animals to kill one another, you know that right or are you just to incompetent to comprehend that?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:07 pm

It's also natural for a cat owner to sue you and get your dog euthanized after it killed their pet. Dogs don't have to kill cats, most dogs don't unless they've been trained to be aggressive in the first place (hunting dogs).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:10 pm

I am now going to identify the flaw in you logic.

1st. there around 12 stray cats around my house now -9 do to brandy's handy work and the other dogs,

2nd. There are +9 houses on my block that have dogs so identifying which dog lead to there pets demise would be rather difficult.

3rd. Dogs are naturally territorial so when a domestic feline gets with in its territory (AKA my back yard) chances are it will not survive especially when it is a pit-bull.

Thus all in all your logic is flawed and your incompetence enlightens me. Have a nice day
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:27 am

Why would i do that? I'ts natural for animals to kill one another, you know that right or are you just to incompetent to comprehend that?


pit-bull owner, i shouldve known. *sigh* :shakehead:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:51 pm

I own a Rotti, who is far from aggressive. Be that as it may, he has killed several animals ranging from Bats, chickens and rabbits that have came into the back yard. Basically if you fail to contain your own animal don't cry to me when it fails natural selection.

But he can walk on a leash, be around other people, kids, come out to the hockey and everything else though. Stir [censored] in his territory that he's predisposed to guard and you're [censored].
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:00 am

Mutated cats escaped from the National Zoo... "Tigers, lions, bears, oh my!" (I'm sorry I couldn't resist) You already have Yao Guai why not feral lions to?
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