Cazadors...

Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:09 pm

Nah, they aren't so bad. A Hunting Shotgun with a choke and slugs will work nicely on them, V.A.T.S. or otherwise.

The thing that bugs me (pun intended) is that http://www.eversostrange.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/TarantulaHawk.jpg.



*Boards self in house and starts searching internet for a WWII M-1 Garand* WHO THE HELL KNOWS HOW TO RELOAD AMMO BY HAND?!
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sharon
 
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:49 pm

I hate Cazdores so much, i kill them with the Alien Blaster just to be safe.
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:23 pm

I love and hate them, they provide a good challenge but sometimes the are too challenging. Yesterday for example I was heading towards Vault 22 with Veronica. We run into a few of them and it wasn't to hard to kill them.I keep walking and to my surprise once I get over a hill there's 7 of them charging me.I turn around to look for Veronica and shes no where to be found.The only reason I survived is because I ran backwards and unloaded with my Cowboy Repeater.

Don t listen to this guy they r not too challenging ever. If they kill u just relish the moment and be happy you actually die, because it won t happen often unless you nerf youself.
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Pawel Platek
 
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:42 am

Maybe I'm missing something here, or maybe my game is glitching, but Cazadors are those brightly colored bug things like bloatflys on steroids, right?
Maybe it's because I'm just playing the game on 'normal' (Ie not in hardcoe), but I've never had a *massive* problem with them. The sting is quite nasty afterwards and the persistent ''''quuuuuuuuuooooompshsshshsh'''' noise as the infection takes it's toll is very distracting.
But I've found if you've got high guns, and a good gun, they're incredibly flimzy, delicate creatures with very low health. The most I've ever found all at one time though was 6, but my Charecter was pmsing at the time so made very short work of them.

I'd rather take on 10 cazadors than one deathclaw! Perhaps it's something to do with charecter build and the strengths/weaknesses you choose?

A pimped up 9mm to the torso seems to work, but that's maybe because I've got bug stomper achievments, lord death, animal control, etc etc, and that perk that means you get critical hits every time you hit an enemy in the torso.
Mysterious stranger might help a bit for you too! I dont know what gun that guy has that means he can take down a cazador with two bullets, but I want it..
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:35 pm

"Because of their extremely large stingers, very few animals are able to eat them; one of the few animals that can is the roadrunner" - Wiki

Where is that Coyote I need to catch me a roadrunner!
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:48 pm

I was in the same position as the forum starter. I'm a melee guns speacialty at level 30. Usually 1 .308 sniper rifle to the body on sneak will take down young and regular with one shot. If you're melee, just make sure you can make anti-venom. Cazador venom+nightstalker blood. I am doing the Thorn Bleed Me Dry quest too and just as an experiment I brought a flamer with me. I have high 30s energy weapon skill, still the flamer just liquifies any bug. I suggest that.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:33 am

I just use a low Action Point rifle, +steady, jet and VATS. You can kill an entire nest with hollow points as long as you don't let them ambush you.
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:16 pm

Two words: RUN AWAY! :bolt:
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:08 pm

I found that using the grenade machine gun from a distance, with the explosive perks to be pretty effective or if they happen to get the drop on you, a 12gauge works very well, especially with the Entomologist perk. I'm pretty good at popping them off with the ratslayer from a distance though.
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:17 pm

I think they are fine. Challenging like i enjoy it to be like.

Although i wish they would decrease the chances of being poisioned by them since no matter what while your fighting them your gonna lose half your health everytime you fight these beasts.

Better carry lots of antivenom
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:52 pm

Why did the devs decide on creating an impossibly overpowered enemy, and then proceed to spawn dozens of them at one time?

I play on hardcoe/normal, not easy or hard, and find it comfortable to play on. On my travels over at the western side of the Strip, going towards Red Rock (Where the Great Khans are) I run into literally TWENTY Cazadors, not a typical nest (Which is hard as it is) But TWENTY, and I do not exaggerate. And I'm dead in milliseconds. So I re-try it on VERY EASY. -Dead in seconds.

You hardcoe/very hard players, how do you manage these things? Is there a strategy? I have some anti-venoms but there's not really a point using them in battle as they have 100% chance poison per strike.
I'm level 21, my armor is good, weapons are good, I have dynamite but low explosives skill, and when I light one in VATS my health is just about at 0 when I come out of VATS.

There's just no possible way I can think of to come out alive after one see's me, since their movement speed is 500% faster than yours, there's no escaping them.

Any help?


Deathclaws are insane too but at least there are signs warning you where they are...



By this time you should be able to craft enough Anti-Venom not to care about Cazadores anymore. Plus a flamer does pretty well against them.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:59 am

I hate Cazadors. It's not even that they're hard, it's that they're cheap.

They move too fast and erraticly to reliable take down in non-VATS combat, their poison is potent, and they're always in groups. More than that, they're so cheap as an enemy that they put me into positions as a player where I need to find a position they can't reach or another AI exploit strategy to deal with them.

The Deathclaw buff was okay, on the other hand, excepting that I think they move entirely too fast for an enemy that can slap half your HP out of you in a single swipe.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:31 am

Dorys are easy... on Level 30. I was so bored I went looking for their nests, and took them out with only a couple of shots of antivenom and an automatic rifle. No probs.

Although I remember my first playthrough, up by the moonshiners shack, I was DAYS trying to just get out of the shack. Play after play. That was HARD.

Level 1 though... try leaving the docs and taking the road north past the gas station... mwahahahah..

Tip for dealing with them - assault carbine, headshots, Lily. That's all I'm saying ;)
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:54 am

I find the most useful defence to cazadors is ED-E - his perk allows you to spot them from miles away. Due to their erratic movement on the compass enemy marker, they stand out quite easily. Just look out for four to five red dots moving back and forth very quickly. :thumbsup:

Oh yeah, and a hunting shotgun helps.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:58 am

Usually I use the Brush gun for them and I might try to snipe them from a far away distance(they can't stand still for a sec), sometimes if you get to a higher elevation like in walls they'll retreat for just fly around but won't attack. I'll tell you it's the worse enemy out there in my opnion. Deathclaws are predictable, but Cazadores you have no clue what will happen. If you are engaging one or two and all the suddenly you're surrounded by 5 or 6. Well, hope you pack a lot of antivenom and super stimpacks if you're playing on hardcoe.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:31 am



The Deathclaw buff was okay, on the other hand, excepting that I think they move entirely too fast for an enemy that can slap half your HP out of you in a single swipe.

So basically you think a raptor should only move 2 mph so you can kill them easy. Make no mistake a deathclaw is much like a raptor. Raptors are belived to have had the ability to run well over 25mph (over twice the speed of average humans),and you would be dead so fast you wouldn t even know how it was killing you.

You also say you think cazadors r easy, but then you go on to cry about them not sitting still for you to shoot them. You also complain about how you have to think to kill them.

People like you are why games have been dumbed down so much in the last 7 years or so IMO. Nothing in this game is even close to too hard.

You don t know what hard is.......
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:02 pm

Don't go near them, they can be seen from quite a ways away with their coloration, and they have very low HP, which makes up for their high damage and speed, and tendency to swarm. Spam bullets at them, wing them, or get a flamethrower.


he described it best, just STAY AWAY FROM THEM. :slap: find a way around them, it may take longer but its a hell of a lot easyer than going strait through them, but only do so if you have no choice or if you absolutely need to.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:20 am

Honestly, those are the easiest damned high level things in the whole Mojave. One hit from my super sledge takes 'em out. The key is to time the hit right. Also, high rate of fire guns work just as well. Something about it just takes the "buggers" out. That was a terrible pun...
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:13 am

Yeah the Cazadors are definitely broken difficult.
At least when your facing the Deathclaws there's that glitch Obsidian missed where they can't see you and you can just kill them all.
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:32 pm

Just took all of 'em out at brewers bootlegging. No stimpacks, lost half a bar of health. I used ONLY A SUPER SLEDGE. How do you guys find these challenging?
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:23 am

Just took all of 'em out at brewers bootlegging. No stimpacks, lost half a bar of health. I used ONLY A SUPER SLEDGE. How do you guys find these challenging?

Impressive, but tell me what level you're playing in ?
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:18 am

Impressive, but tell me what level you're playing in ?

twenty. I could have easily taken them all out at level 15.

I just took out seven deathclaws that attacked me at the same time with a ballistic fist.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:20 am

I hate Cazadors. It's not even that they're hard, it's that they're cheap.

They move too fast and erraticly to reliable take down in non-VATS combat, their poison is potent, and they're always in groups. More than that, they're so cheap as an enemy that they put me into positions as a player where I need to find a position they can't reach or another AI exploit strategy to deal with them.

The Deathclaw buff was okay, on the other hand, excepting that I think they move entirely too fast for an enemy that can slap half your HP out of you in a single swipe.


I love trying to tag Cazadors outside of VATS at distance, it gives me a chance to practice my sniping skills. One whack with a Trail Carbine and down they go. Yeah I burn ammo, but ammo's cheap and I have tons of it anyway.

When they close in, switch over to something that sprays a lot of lead quickly (Hunting Shotgun or even the Assault Carbine work well). They hit hard and they're fast, but they have no DT. Use that to your advantage.

As far as Deathclaws go, I like them the way they are in NV. They were ridiculously easy to dispatch in FO3. Hit them once with a Dart Gun and they became your play toys.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:43 am

They are easy as hell to kill, but I find they are cheap. Low on Antivenom, you're done.

Killing them is not the hard part. It's letting go.(of the poison)
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:54 pm

I love trying to tag Cazadors outside of VATS at distance, it gives me a chance to practice my sniping skills. One whack with a Trail Carbine and down they go. Yeah I burn ammo, but ammo's cheap and I have tons of it anyway.

When they close in, switch over to something that sprays a lot of lead quickly (Hunting Shotgun or even the Assault Carbine work well). They hit hard and they're fast, but they have no DT. Use that to your advantage.

As far as Deathclaws go, I like them the way they are in NV. They were ridiculously easy to dispatch in FO3. Hit them once with a Dart Gun and they became your play toys.

This. The deathclaws are a challenge for me, and I love a good challenge. I can take them down with difficulty or with ease, depending upon my gear.
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