Ceaser s Legion vs FO3 Enclave : Fallout Series Discussion

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:52 am

First time I saw a scorpion and big as a suv or a 5ft tall Gecko id go back to town and probably never leave again.

Hahaha... I probably would hide in some ruins and scavenge or pretend I was a tough guy and become the sherriff of a town.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:38 pm

First time I saw a scorpion and big as a suv or a 5ft tall Gecko id go back to town and probably never leave again.

We've all got entomophobia to some degree :cryvaultboy:

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:45 am

So you're saying that if we took an unreasonably weak (due to their lack of DT) Fallout 3 Enclave soldier, and put him against a moderatly strong (because of DT) Legion soldier, that the Enclave soldier would win? Because the Enclave soldier wouldn't win, I guarantee it.

No give the Fallout 3 Enclave soldier DT, and the legion soldier would get destroyed.

In this battle if you took a fo3 Telsa Trooper or hellfire trooper from fo3 vs a prime or vet legionary, The Enclave guys would win because on range. Enclave was much better at putting rounds on target, because their weapons were 1/2 to 3/4 repaired. Most legionaries in the wastes have throwing spears. The ones that carry fire arms have 10s, or .357 mags pistols. The legionaries are not the ones with ranged weapons.

Enclaves ability to shoot alot of rounds and put rounds on target is why they would win. CL guy would be dead before he got there.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:36 am

In this battle if you took a fo3 Telsa Trooper or hellfire trooper from fo3 vs a prime or vet legionary, The Enclave guys would win because on range. Enclave was much better at putting rounds on target, because their weapons were 1/2 to 3/4 repaired. Most legionaries in the wastes have throwing spears. The ones that carry fire arms have 10s, or .357 mags pistols. The legionaries are not the ones with ranged weapons.

Enclaves ability to shoot alot of rounds and put rounds on target is why they would win. CL guy would be dead before he got there.

How many Prime or Veteran Legionaire's use 10mm and .357 pistols?

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:54 am

How many Prime or Veteran Legionaire's use 10mm and .357 pistols?

That s the problem they don't even use them they ll try to come to me from 45 video game yards away so they can melee me. They never make it.

They are not the ones that carry a rifle in the wastes. The guy wity the dog on his head always seems to have the cowboy repeater with a sliver of life in it.

Normal plasma rounds carry -2 dt in this game so the fo3 Enclave would get that. Fo3 Enclave tt or hft would win purely because thier gun is repired enough to shoot and farther and they hit where they r aiming.

I don t even want to think about what would happen if they started shooting fire balls from 60 video game yards away.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:04 am

In my game experience the upper mid tier Legion almost always have cowboy repeaters. Minimum.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:49 am

In my game experience the upper mid tier Legion almost always have cowboy repeaters. Minimum.

Where do you find the legionaires with at least cr at???????
I ve seen centurions with real guns in ok condition. I saw some legionaires with hunting rifles at bitter springs, but that is a staged event. I actually had to use a stim after that.

I ve utterly destroyed Ceaser and his camp 2 time as well. Where do you find these men with weapons for ranged battle????

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:54 am

Look at the wiki entries for them, it says they all have ranged weapon spawn in the inventories. I only really see recruits with melee only weapon load outs. Decanus' and up usually always have cowboy guns or SMGs.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:20 pm

Look at the wiki entries for them, it says they all have ranged weapon spawn in the inventories. I only really see recruits with melee only weapon load outs. Decanus' and up usually always have cowboy guns or SMGs.

not in my game 360 or PS3 The only one in the wastes with a rifle of any kind is the guys with a dog on their head. Even in the dam they have supersledges chainsaws or sawed offs. Never have I seen a legionaire at any level with a ranged weapon besides bitter springs. They seem to have good hp, but they can only get shot so many times. One last night had a plasma nade, but 10 throwing spears were his ranged weapons.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:34 pm

In my game they only equip there melee stuff if they or you get so close then they will switch and charge.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:37 am

I've seen plently with Cowboy Repeaters, at Nelson a trio of NCR were attacking with Caravan Shotgun, killed quite a few recruits using machettes, then a Decanus came from nowhere with a Cowboy Repeater and started mopping deck! Heads flying everywhere.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:15 pm

I've seen plently with Cowboy Repeaters, at Nelson a trio of NCR were attacking with Caravan Shotgun, killed quite a few recruits using machettes, then a Decanus came from nowhere with a Cowboy Repeater and started mopping deck! Heads flying everywhere.

Caesar should take some notes. The True will of a warrior comes out of the barrel of a gun.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:10 am

You can really tell the difference if you use Wasteland spawn increasing mod. Since you get a larger number of them and can see just how many actually carry guns.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:27 pm

not in my game 360 or PS3 The only one in the wastes with a rifle of any kind is the guys with a dog on their head. Even in the dam they have supersledges chainsaws or sawed offs. Never have I seen a legionaire at any level with a ranged weapon besides bitter springs. They seem to have good hp, but they can only get shot so many times. One last night had a plasma nade, but 10 throwing spears were his ranged weapons.

When I go to the Dam the Centurions are using Marksman rifles and sometimes Riot shotguns.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:29 am

When I go to the Dam the Centurions are using Marksman rifles and sometimes Riot shotguns.

I m not talking about centurions. I m talking about legionaries.

Mr. Enclave Nelson is a staged event as well. I m talking about in the wastes where cl hangs out. I saw a legionaire recruit in nelson he shot me took 4hp. l killed him and the cr had about |< that much life in it.

I dont have a pc but I have put over 500hrs in nv on ps3 and 360, so I have seen many many many cl. I know who carries what 97% of the time. I could care less what wiki says some cl fan probably edited it and put down what they wanted. Legionaires r melee oriented.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:20 am

Mr. Enclave Nelson is a staged event as well. I m talking about in the wastes where cl hangs out. I saw a legionaire recruit in nelson he shot me took 4hp. l killed him and the cr had about |< that much life in it.

So your not including settlements? There are hardly any other Caesar's Legion in the game.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:24 am

So your not including settlements? There are hardly any other Caesar's Legion in the game.

This is true, and that pisses me off too. The ones that do respawn on the south end of the map is what I am talking about. There r not all recruits out there. I do a lot of "mindless exploring" in that area, becausd there are several caves, old farmsteads, and such.

During staged events of course a couple will have cr or hr. Legionaries don t have range at cw cove or Ceaser s base camp its always the other guys with the used ranged weapons. They r not as hard as legionaries and go down quick leaving the legionaries open from range ,they are then left defenseless.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:44 pm

Caesar should take some notes. The True will of a warrior comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Lol this!!!!! That is damn right. It doesnt matter how much tough you are once you get shot in the face with a gun...

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:05 am

I was playing today, IWS spawn, an NCR patrol met a Legion party, 8 vs 8, now, i thought the NCR was going to win, they brought down a 3 recruits charging them, but behind the recruits was a Vet with a chainsaw, the rest were behind plugging away with repeaters, the Vet reached the Troopers and chainsawed them all to death.

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:29 am

I was playing today, IWS spawn, an NCR patrol met a Legion party, 8 vs 8, now, i thought the NCR was going to win, they brought down a 3 recruits charging them, but behind the recruits was a Vet with a chainsaw, the rest were behind plugging away with repeaters, the Vet reached the Troopers and chainsawed them all to death.

The chainsaw is a beast

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:41 am

The Legion can go tit or tat with the NCR but they would get destroyed against something like the Enclave. Only reason The Leigion has survived is because it has been out of reach of factions like The Enclave.

Vertibird over their camp and they are done for.

Anyone saying different has really devoted fan bias.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:25 pm

I must admit I saw 2 legionaires in the wastes tonight with cw. Even hit me with a bullet I was so happy. The devastating blow caused me to lose 12hp out of 430. They fired about 5 shots hit me once. Maybe they were shooting at Raul IDK. They simply do not cause damage. Raul is a way better cr marksman than cl. He gets off shots way faster too. Cl is not getting enough shots off. Maybe its because thier guns r junk.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:24 am

I must admit I saw 2 legionaires in the wastes tonight with cw. Even hit me with a bullet I was so happy. The devastating blow caused me to lose 12hp out of 430. They fired about 5 shots hit me once. Maybe they were shooting at Raul IDK. They simply do not cause damage. Raul is a way better cr marksman than cl. He gets off shots way faster too. Cl is not getting enough shots off. Maybe its because thier guns r junk.

Nerf yourself.
Make a character that is not completely combat oriented, don't wear anything with DT, don't use high tier weapons.
Is so much more fun to play like that.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:02 am

Nerf yourself.
Make a character that is not completely combat oriented, don't wear anything with DT, don't use high tier weapons.
Is so much more fun to play like that.

In Nipton my level 3 character walked up to them wear grimy business wear and holding a .357 revolver (I remember because I always have that). I had 4 Endurance (I remember because I always set it to that) and they fired about twelve or thirteen shots at me and missed all of them. I killed them all with one bullet each. They svck at combat.

In F3 I had to duck behind cover, jump up quickly, and spray and pray with combat armor at level 10 (by 15 it was easier).

Enclave could only lose due to numbers.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:43 am

Enclve
BEtter weapons and armor. Vertibirds help to.

Idk whats the difference between DR and DT so someone tell me