Champion of cyrodil question. : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:51 pm

Just to get this question knocked on the head. the Champion of cyrodil doesnt specificly die. Because when i killed "sheogorath" and released jigalag he technicly became the sheogorath. and since i can meet sheogorath 200 years after. That makes the champion of cyrodil sheogorath from my oblivion game. correct?

(sorry about spelling)

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:11 pm

Your character from TES4 was still mortal, and would presumably have died long before TES5. I'm not sure why Sheogorath still looks the same as he did in the last game though...

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:00 am

Your character from TES4 was still mortal, and would presumably have died long before TES5. I'm not sure why Sheogorath still looks the same as he did in the last game though...

Which lends credence to the old theory that the CoC was never Sheogorath, and that he was part of a long practical joke on Sheogorath's part, presumably ending with the CoC jumping off a cliff proclaiming to onlookers that a Daedric Prince is immortal, leaving only Haskill to chuckle a bit before sitting on Sheogorath's throne, taking up Sheogorath's shaleileigh and perhaps winding his pocket watch before writing the CoC's in his bank ledger.

» Mon May 07, 2012 5:19 pm

And I still say that Sheogorath is Sheogorath after Sheogorath lead Sheogorath to become Sheogorath. So no, Sheogorath did not die, for Sheogorath has remained, even when Sheogorath was teaching Sheogorath how to be Sheogorath, so that Sheogorath could fight Jyygy.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:45 am

And I still say that Sheogorath is Sheogorath after Sheogorath lead Sheogorath to become Sheogorath. So no, Sheogorath did not die, for Sheogorath has remained, even when Sheogorath was teaching Sheogorath how to be Sheogorath, so that Sheogorath could fight Jyygy.

This.

Also how come the quote text is longer then the visible text in your post?

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:09 pm

Hell if I know.

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:06 pm

So that Jyggy no longer had to be Sheogorath and could let Sheogorath be Sheogorath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzq4YDt7V-o.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:53 am

Remember, before Skyrim it could have been a possibility that the CoC just went insane or the like and never actually became Sheogorath, but in Skyrim Sheogorath specifically references the fact he/she was once the CoC. The CoC simple has mantled Sheogorath so much that he/she has become Sheogorath, even in how he/she looks like.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:23 am

It would also depend on the race of your character. If he was an elf, he would still be alive anyway. It's just a way of writing off your old character. Your character turns into Sheogorath. He changes to fit the description, not the other way around.

» Tue May 08, 2012 6:43 am

i think the coc backasswardly mantles things, instead of doing what they do he just copies what they look like or what they wear. Was the coc an elf slaying general? No but he dressed like one, same with sheogorath. I always thought that was kind of weird

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:53 pm

CoC walks so well in Pelinal's space-boots that he gets svcked backwards through his brand-new gaping chest wound.

» Mon May 07, 2012 7:11 pm

Who the bloody is Sheogorath in TESV then, if it's not the CoC?

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:08 am

The CoC was never Sheogorath because that would be cool, and Oblivion was not cool.

» Mon May 07, 2012 6:05 pm

Oh snap!

» Tue May 08, 2012 8:25 am

The truth is... That there is no Sheogorath.
Sheogorath is a lie perpetuated by the New World Order to distract sheeple from the truth; that in reality, The Empire is ruled by mutant skeevers, also known as... C0DA.

You heard me.

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:21 am

Yeah Oblivion was the lamest game ever. It was lamer than Worms: Total Destruction.

» Mon May 07, 2012 5:58 pm

Sheogorath is dead, long live Sheogorath.

Who the bloody is Sheogorath in TESV then, if it's not the CoC?

Sheogorath is Sheogorath. He will always be Sheogorath for as long he exists. The creature you interact with who calls himself Sheogorath is a body who has been overwhelmed by Sheogorath's personality, creating an Avatar of Sheogorath. The CoC is dead, long live Sheogorath.

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:05 pm

At the very least, skyrim!Sheo really was the mortal Duke/Duchess from the Shivering Isles expansion. His dialogue just hammers home the CoCiness of it all. At least, that's what I took away from it all.

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:09 am

The CoC went insane when entering the Madhouse. The End.

Who would've guessed that the Shiver Isles expansion was a hallucination?

» Tue May 08, 2012 6:15 am

Does Sheo and Jyygy have separate protonymics' ?

CoC could have lived normally and died, and his soul gets imprinted with Sheo's protonymic? Then Sheo would rise from the waters of Oblivion as Sheo.

» Mon May 07, 2012 7:10 pm

God of madness is a family title sheogorath hands down to himself every few hundred years.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:57 am

The CoC went insane when entering the Madhouse. The End.

Who would've guessed that the Shiver Isles expansion was a hallucination?

As I said, the Skyrim Sheogorath confirms that he was the CoC.

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:10 am

As I said, the Skyrim Sheogorath confirms that he was the CoC.

Well, maybe. You never can tell, when it comes to Bethesda. Maybe the CoC didn't do Shivering Isles, but one of the guards who fought with Martin at the Imperial city. Who knows?

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:02 am

Could probably joke that while the Greymarch did happen, the new Sheogorath was that friendly imperial guard on duty by the gate, on that island.

[looks it up] That Gaius Prentus fellow. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Gaius_Prentus

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:20 pm

Could probably joke that while the Greymarch did happen, the new Sheogorath was that friendly imperial guard on duty by the gate, on that island.

[looks it up] That Gaius Prentus fellow. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Gaius_Prentus

And the CoC was this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Belmyne_Dreleth. He walked in, made a deposit, and was slain forthwith upon reentry to Mundus.