Champion of Cyrodill and the new Mad God : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:58 pm

You can be the Hero of Kvatch without doing any of the Main Quest, but given that history cannot move forward wiothout the main events happening whoever took on saving Martin etc would then become Champion, with you being the Hero of Kvatch.

That makes sense, hadn't thought of it that way before

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:08 am

That's only your choice. My character is all... Champion of Cyrodiil, Archmage, lead of the Fighters Guild, Gray Fox, Listener of the DB, Sheogorath, etc.

I think, it is lore-correct, to say, that the Champion of Cyrodiil had become prince of madness.

I disagree. I think that in future games the Archmage, Gray Fox, Listener, Sheogorath, Divine Crusader, and CoC will all be assumed to be different people or at least will be reffered to seperately despite what your past PC accomplished. I imagine in the next game there will be books or at least rumors that refrence the actions that your PC did but considering that it is practically impossible for one person to be able to do everything Oblivion had to offer there will be stories about what the Divine Crusader did and what the Champion of Cyrodiil did yet no connection between the two will be made.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:46 am

Modreyn Oreyn seems to be a good example of this. At the end of the Fighter's Guild questline he gives you the 'Helm Of Oreyn Bearclaw' which is an object the Nerervarine can receive in Morrowind. He says a 'stranger' gave it to him. Not the Nerevarine. This is because if you played Morrowind and didn't receive it, it would ruin the freedom if you get what I mean.
So although it doesn't say it was the Nerevarine it doesn't say it wasn't
Therefore lore will never say the Champion Of Cyrodil was Listener in the Black Hand because however you played it he may not have been.
Make sense?

And with that example, it also doesn't preclude the possibility of the Nerevarine getting it, but NOT delivering it him/herself. Supposedly the Nerevarine left Morrowind straightaway for Akavir, and thus never returned to Cyrodiil to be able to deliver the helm; the Nerevarine could have had a friend deliver the helm to its rightful heir once he/she learned of Modreyn's existence.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:40 pm

I disagree. I think that in future games the Archmage, Gray Fox, Listener, Sheogorath, Divine Crusader, and CoC will all be assumed to be different people or at least will be reffered to seperately despite what your past PC accomplished. I imagine in the next game there will be books or at least rumors that refrence the actions that your PC did but considering that it is practically impossible for one person to be able to do everything Oblivion had to offer there will be stories about what the Divine Crusader did and what the Champion of Cyrodiil did yet no connection between the two will be made.

I disagree further. I doubt many stories will exist and the ones that do won't mention stuff like being Arch-Mage etc only stuff involved with the Main Quest. They'll just toss it to the side

EDIT: At Kristoffer, exactly, lore leaves it up to the player to decide.