"Change View"-option (F-key) disappears in experimen

Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:27 pm

I've tried a plethora of LOs to see what works with ART. The following one was meant to combine FPS-aspects (like Ironsight, Weapon Recoil, Bullet Time and a truckload of weapons) with a quest-oriented RPG-approach (most quests were not yet installed before the following happened).

Everything seemed to work well - except, I couldn't change view (default command: "F"). So, I switched cameras (from KTs_Centercamera.esp to Overhead3PCamera.esp), didn't work; deactivated and then de-installed mods that I thought might interfere with each other in that respect (RH_IronSights, ART, FO3 to FPS, Scavenger World Updated), didn't work; deactivated every mod - that helped as little as an almost Vanilla Ini.

I have now de-installed all mods (BAIN makes this easy) and, not surprisingly, the "change view"-ability has returned. So, obviously, I have to reinstall them in small packs and look for the re-appearance of the bug - but maybe you have already experienced that phenomenon and can tell me what incompatibility suppresses "change view".

I have the suspicion, it's something painfully obvious that I just don't see because of the many changes I made in my LOs.

BTW, yes, I had forgotten to add two compatibility patches from Fallout Remastered before I copied the LO - I added them later but that didn't help with my problem.

Active Mod Files:
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Station.esp [CRC: DA7884ED]++  GeneratorSound.esp [CRC: F7DEFF71]2A  RemoteControlCompanionsPlus.esp [CRC: 6CAE2D7A]2B  NotSoFast.esp  [Version 1.07] [CRC: FFF16D14]2C  TecVault.esp [CRC: E5CA92E6]2D  RZW_SimpleGrab.esp [CRC: 54B98A3F]2E  MarkB50K_Wasteland_Patrols.esp [CRC: 976C8F99]2F  Laurens_Bathroom_poetry_V1.esp [CRC: D8A75C40]30  tubRRCompound.esp [CRC: DEF7A2A3]31  HouseholdWaterPurifier.esp [CRC: B6F9192C]32  1Animated Nightvision goggles.esp [CRC: 2C6663C1]33  MaintenanceShed.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: E9DA4A4A]34  MoreMapMarkers.esp [CRC: A3FD97F7]35  PL More map markers.esp [CRC: 2F24F867]36  MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp  [Version 2.0] [CRC: 0A7E3339]37  MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp [CRC: 540018FA]38  Big Town Overhaul [GangStore].esp [CRC: 1D3D234B]39  GNRBuilding_Studio.esp [CRC: 297D104B]3A  DCStreet - BS.esp [CRC: A35DAE19]3B  MLights.esp [CRC: 7410D00F]3C  RangerT HQ.esp [CRC: 313FF28F]3D  UndergroundHideout.esp [CRC: 49635CBB]++  DALCO Fixes for Underground Hideout.esp [CRC: 881E4CC3]3E  BA_WastelandRestoration.esp [CRC: E4237A64]3F  BA_WastelandRestoration_DLCs.esp [CRC: 64C7A0CA]40  Apocalypse Armory.esp [CRC: 263C7D35]41  Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp [CRC: A422B98E]42  Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp [CRC: 69F86CAF]43  FO3toFPS.esp [CRC: E0CCAAB2]44  WeaponModKits.esp [CRC: 3E2861DB]45  WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp [CRC: 729D51D2]46  WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp [CRC: 4C3C90A9]47  WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp [CRC: 80A8FF0F]48  WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp [CRC: 5AD5E950]49  WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp [CRC: 85241841]4A  CRAFTable_WMKs.esp [CRC: 1CC9EF60]++  Apocalypse Armory + WMK.esp [CRC: 3618A351]4B  Silenced DKS-501.esp [CRC: 00D5B841]4C  SolarScorcher.esp [CRC: 9ED9538E]4D  [DC RANGER ARSENAL v3] - DLC GEAR.esp [CRC: 842F2693]4E  [DC RANGER ARSENAL v3] - ITEM GENERATOR.esp [CRC: EEB31044]4F  Advanced Recon Armor.esp [CRC: F58E6888]50  BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp [CRC: 69615C93]51  MicroBikini.esp [CRC: D4F87DAB]52  MissingUniqueArmorClothing-Base.esp [CRC: 6F5BD089]53  Powered Power Armor.esp [CRC: EE4B6291]54  PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp [CRC: A90A480A]55  PPA - Broken Steel.esp [CRC: AC6C2F96]56  PPA - The Pitt.esp [CRC: F0F11983]57  PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp [CRC: BC734E8B]58  SteinerCombatGear.esp [CRC: 2887CA68]59  vaultgirlrp.esp [CRC: 5076F0F5]5A  CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp [CRC: 46BEFA4E]5B  Brahmin Dairy Products.esp [CRC: C01A90C2]5C  KarmaRevamp1010.esp [CRC: 9921399B]5D  Scavenger World - Updated v0.08.esp [CRC: BA1E4F27]++  ZORTS - Custom HP.esp [CRC: 1F57B7ED]5E  Companion Core DLC Addon.esp [CRC: 37145CC8]5F  RobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.esp [CRC: 07E827A3]60  Mr Smith's Scrapyard.esp [CRC: 6B92D1D2]61  NukaColaBottlingStation.esp [CRC: 69267968]++  Empty Nuka-Cola Quantum Bottles.esp [CRC: 5A556ACD]62  EVE.esp [CRC: B4FC1E50]63  EVE Operation Anchorage.esp [CRC: 89DC1FA8]64  Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp [CRC: F2CF3B12]65  Mart's Mutant Mod.esp [CRC: FB3CE701]66  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp [CRC: 5D392FF2]67  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp [CRC: 53DC9D8F]68  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp [CRC: 89BF5711]++  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp [CRC: A4E67116]69  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp [CRC: 627BE465]++  Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp [CRC: CB6A4B5F]++  Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp [CRC: 6548C4D4]++  Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp [CRC: 1AA10DF8]++  Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp [CRC: 3CAF7F12]**  Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp [CRC: 7B1D30CA]++  Arwen_GOTY_Realism_Core.esp [CRC: 006B30FF]++  Arwen_GOTY_Hard-Core.esp [CRC: 80C722BD]6A  Arwen_Encumbrance.esp [CRC: 3D1260B5]6B  Arwen_GOTY_Med-Tec.esp [CRC: DBD13511]++  Arwen_MMM_Med-Tec_Patch.esp [CRC: 4D554A19]6C  Arwen_EVE_Patch.esp [CRC: 9B658AFA]6D  Arwen_Brahamin_Med-Tec_Patch.esp [CRC: 832E7B7C]6E  BoS Diversification.esp [CRC: 80087DB0]6F  BoS Diversification - Broken Steel.esp [CRC: F0B9E5EF]70  BOC Diversification.esp [CRC: 56990549]71  BOC Diversification - Operation Anchorage.esp [CRC: A00F4C48]72  Outcast Collection Agent Expanded - DLC Plugin.esp [CRC: 97204D83]++  T3T_MiscItemIcons.esp [CRC: 72D2F552]73  WRK Final - Plugin.esp [CRC: BD9A0160]74  WRK Final - Point Lookout.esp [CRC: 1C3C4059]75  Xepha's Darkened Interiors.esp [CRC: 21E8F2D8]76  Xepha's Darkened Interiors - OA.esp [CRC: 5D6421E7]77  Xepha's Darkened Interiors - BS.esp [CRC: BC89007E]78  Xepha's Darkened Interiors - PL.esp [CRC: 8C03070C]79  ImaginatorFO3.esp [CRC: 868E8275]7A  URWLRain.esp [CRC: C1D0A121]++  CRAFT - WCE Warmonger Addon.esp [CRC: C1161EC5]7B  Bashed Patch.esp [CRC: 5FC8ABB2]7C  Fallout Remastered.esp [CRC: F08CAA53]7D  Fallout Remastered - Mart's Mutants Mod.esp [CRC: 81F3957A]

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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:38 am

Looks like the culprit is http://www.marcurioscache.nl/?q=fo3tofps - though the problem is not unavoidable; it depends on other mods installed before but I have yet to figure out the exact constellation that does and does not work.
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