Hi everybody,

I am completely confused after spending hours anolyzing the following problem:

I am trying to change weapon attributes at runtime using the following OBSE commands

setAttackDamagesetObjectHealthsetWeaponReachsetWeaponSpeedsetObjectChargesetEquippedCurrentCharge

This seems to work fine, because I can immediately see all the changes applied to the weapon.
When I save after applying the changes and reload the savegame, the changes are still present. That's fine.

But... whenever I quit Oblivion completely, restart, and then reload the savegame, all changes are lost! The weapon always snaps back to the default values from its base form.

Does anybody know why that happens?

Here's what I tried to find the answer:

At first, I placed the weapon directly inside a cell in CS, i.e. I created a non-dynamic reference with a unique EditorID ("MyWeapon"). In my script, I then used to to change values, like that:

setAttackDamage 50 WeaponEditorID

Then I tried to do it dynamically by adding the weapon to the player ingame with code like
ref weaponRef
...

player.addItem MyWeaponFormID 1player.equipItem MyWeaponFormID weaponRef = player.GetEquippedObject 16setAttackDamage 50 weaponRef

At last, in order to see if there is some problem with my scripts, I tried to bypass them by directly selecting the weapon in the console and then using the simple console command:

setAttackDamage 50

But the effect is always the same, no matter which method I choose:
- All the changing of attributes works absolutely perfect!
- Reloading a savegame without quitting the game works perfect!
- However, quitting the game and then restarting/reloading does NOT work!

Please help... this nasty problem completely overthrows my mod, because without being able to save the changes, it's absolutely useless

Thanks for any hints!!!

Hi Jamie

Not really a solution what i thought of, but would get you by and definitely better then nothing, you could set a quest to run each time the game launches or when you reload the game the quest can run, and then have that to set all the weapon settings. "Start Game Enabled"

Hey did you check out those other mods that have a similar setup for enchantment? I say you have but do they react with the same behavior or not? And if they do this might be the only solution maybe

Which script ? Quest or object ?

Try:

set weaponRef to player.placeAtMe MyWeaponObjectID 1setAttackDamage 50 weaponRef

Objects in inventories do not have references. Add a

printc "WeaponRef : %i" weaponRef

in your code and let me know what it prints out
Ask in the OBSE thread - you will get an answer
GetGame Restarted is for these things

Hi Tigerpaws,

yes, I am currently implementing exactly that: re-applying all changes on game restart from within a quest script. As this solution is not very beautiful and means a lot of coding (with the risk of creating additional sources of errors), I didn't want to start with it as long as I wasn't sure that there might be other reason for the problem. But after I have received feedback confirming that this behaviour is probably a known flaw (or "feature" ) of the game engine (see http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/227832-changes-to-weapon-attributes-are-not-stored-in-savegames/page__pid__2013034#entry2013034), I can now at least be sure that the "repeat-it-on-every-game-restart" method is the only solution. So I'll just have to do it.

It's definitely also a good idea to check what other mods do, but I haven't found the time yet to go into details. In addition, the game engine probably behaves differently for different kinds of "objects": I've heard that enchantments may work, but weapons won't.

So I'll just stop :brokencomputer: -ing now and go back to work! I want to get that "Blade of the Haunted Customizer" published, finally!

Do ask in the obse thread though - and let me know the answers to my prev post. If you decide to rewrite them all - use GetGameRestarted !