Char can't sit down on stuff any more : IV

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:56 pm

My player character has developed this http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/626/oblivionsittingproblem2.png. She does the sit down animation, and then standup animation after, but when I look in 3rd person, she's just standing in the chair. Very annoying

Any ideas as to a cause? It's not seductive idles, it was there before I installed that. Was also present on my previous install which was just OOO-MMM, not FCOM. Could it be a skeleton.nif issue? I'm really stumped

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04 MD_Saddle_Master.esm
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.71]
06 Ulrim's Horses.esm
07 Harvest[Containers].esm
08 Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm
09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
0A Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0C FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0E Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0F Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
10 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 3.3.2]
11 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.4]
13 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
14 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
17 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05]
** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
18 Oblivion.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
1A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
1B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
1C Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1E Fran Armor Add-on.esp
1F Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
** LoadingScreens.esp
** LoadingScreensSI.esp
20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
21 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]
22 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]
23 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp
++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]
24 PCSoundImoen.esp [Version 2.6]
25 WindowLightingSystem.esp
26 FlyingCameraMod.esp [Version 1.3]
27 kuerteeAutoFirstThirdPersonView.esp
28 Clep Reborn.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
29 Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
2A P1DseeYouSleep.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
2B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.1]
2C Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.4]
2D Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.0.2]
2E sr_super_hotkeys.esp
2F DLCHorseArmor.esp
30 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
31 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]
32 DLCOrrery.esp
33 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
34 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]
35 DLCVileLair.esp
36 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]
37 P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
38 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
39 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp
3A SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.11]
3B DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++ ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
3C Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp
3D XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
3E Armamentium female.esp
3F Colourwheels sixy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp
40 Colourwheels sixy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp
41 Slof's Horses Base.esp
42 Slof's Extra Horses.esp
43 MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
44 MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp
45 DLCThievesDen.esp
46 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
47 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp
48 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2]
49 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]
++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4A ExnemRuneskulls.esp
++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4B Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
4C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
4D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
4E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
50 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
51 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
52 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp [Version 0.5]
** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
53 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
54 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
55 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
56 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
57 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
58 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
59 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
5A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
5B TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
** TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp
++ TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
5C TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
5D ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
** ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5E FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5F FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
++ Fransfemale.esp
** LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
++ HGEC_special_armor_repl_for_OOO.esp
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
60 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
61 Bravil Docks.esp
62 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
63 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
64 OCC-KR-Patch.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
65 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
** Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
66 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
67 Tona's_ModsStore.esp
68 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
69 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 1.3]
** Cyrodiil Travel Services Vwalk.esp
6A DLCFrostcrag.esp
6B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
6C SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2]
** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
6D Ulrim's Horses.esp
6E Knights.esp
6F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp
++ EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]
++ Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp
70 OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp [Version 2.1]
71 AFK_Weye.esp
72 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]
73 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.4]
74 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.1]
75 Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Vergayun Vwalk.esp
76 Faregyl.esp [Version 1.0.10]
** Faregyl Vwalk.esp
77 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
78 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
79 xulTheHeath.esp
7A XulEntiusGorge.esp
7B xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
7C xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
7D xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp
7E xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
7F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp
80 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
81 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
82 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
83 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.1]
84 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
85 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
86 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp
87 xulPantherRiver.esp
88 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.1]
89 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp
8A xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
8B xulBlackwoodForest.esp
8C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
8D KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
8E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0]
** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp
8F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp
90 bartholm.esp
91 Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
92 bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0]
** bartholm Vwalk.esp
93 OTEP - Aleswell.esp [Version 1.6]
94 Open Cities New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.1]
95 Open Cities Bartholm.esp [Version 1.0.3]
96 Open Cities Outer Districts.esp [Version 3.3.2]
97 Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp [Version 3.3.3]
98 OC+Bravil Docks Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
99 OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp [Version 2.2]
9A OCC-OOO-Patch.esp [Version 2.3]
9B NRB4+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.2]
9C OCLR+ULBWForest Patch.esp
9D OC+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
9E OC+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
9F RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 2.1]
A0 NRB4+RR Patch.esp [Version 2.1]
++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
A1 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
A2 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
A3 Badmagic - Landscape Fix for 20 -18.esp
A4 Colourwheels sixy Imperial Legion.esp
A5 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.1]
A6 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
A7 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
A8 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
A9 SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
AA Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
AB ATakesAll.esp
AC Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
AD RealisticFatigue.esp
AE RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.3.4]
AF MidasSpells.esp
B0 OC+Midas Magic Patch.esp
B1 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
B2 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
B3 IDFQR, Cobl.esp [Version 1.4]
B4 ProgressGSD.esp [Version 2.0]
B5 ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]
B6 ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
B7 ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
B8 ProgressRacial.esp
B9 ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
BA RealisticLeveling.esp
BB SeductiveIdles.esp
++ 77_Umpa_sixy_walk.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Script effect - Bash icon.esp [Version 1.01]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
BC bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
BD bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
BE bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
BF bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
C0 bgBalancingVanillaGMSTArmorPenalty.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
C1 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
C2 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
C3 OC+Integration Patch.esp [Version 2.0]
C4 Willful Resistance.esp [Version 4.0]
C5 ReallyImmersiveMessagesNoBirthsigns.esp
C6 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
C7 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
** NRB4 OCLR Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]
C8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
C9 Streamline 3.1.esp

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:43 am

A little bump and another questions.
Which is the latest Realistic Force mod which works with SI and doesn't cause 'Jesus Christ Pose' problems on corpses?
What to test my dodgy skeleton.nif theory

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:55 pm

Can you clarify if the "standing in the chair" happens when she sits down, or when she gets up? I.e. is the sit down animation ending in a standing position, or is the get up animation ending in the wrong place relative to the chair?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:56 pm

Can you clarify if the "standing in the chair" happens when she sits down, or when she gets up? I.e. is the sit down animation ending in a standing position, or is the get up animation ending in the wrong place relative to the chair?

It's hard to say as Kurtee's 1st-3rd person view mod switches during the animation (must test with it disabled). It appears that my char does the sit down anim, but when I switch to 3rd person, is then standing in the chair. Pressing space then does the standup ani, from a sitting position, as if she was sitting down. As I say, really wierd.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:30 pm

Since she is standing through the chair, I would say that that is an animation problem. Collision seems to be suspended when those types of animations are used...in a way. Did you try deactivating the 1st-3rd person view mod? or any other animation mods for that matter?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:00 am

Are you using Knigths of Nine did you complete it,

are you using the Unofficial Patch for it has well..Alomst sounds like this..

Form Unofficial Knights Patch

?Fixed the "sitting bug"; after the completion of the Knights of the Nine questline, the player will no longer freeze in place when sitting down or sit in midair away from the chair/bench

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:30 pm

Are you using Knigths of Nine did you complete it,

are you using the Unofficial Patch for it has well..Alomst sounds like this..

Form Unofficial Knights Patch

?Fixed the "sitting bug"; after the completion of the Knights of the Nine questline, the player will no longer freeze in place when sitting down or sit in midair away from the chair/bench

My load order is attached in the spoiler tag on 1st post.

But I am using Knights and using Unoficial MOBs patch. Char is 1 week old, so haven't even been to Anvil yet

Tomlong - not using any animation replacers, previous experienced CTDs with these so a bit wary. Will report back when tested without view switcher mod (at work atm)

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:05 pm

Obliverrhoids?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:27 am

Ahhh, yes, it is kuerteeAutoFirstThirdPersonView.esp with it deactivated the whole sit down sequence occurs fine. Further investigation has found that the BAIN installation has skipped the blummin ini file! Guess thats why its recommended to install in OBMM! Which I did and now its all fixed. :celebration:

Obliverrhoids?

er...ok....right.

Like me, sound like you need to go to bed. :snoring:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:41 pm

You can install INI files with BAIN. I use nGCD, Kuertee Horse Commands, EE, Streamline, Supreme Magicka, SuperHotkeys, and more. All of their INI files are installed.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:50 pm

You can install INI files with BAIN. I use nGCD, Kuertee Horse Commands, EE, Streamline, Supreme Magicka, SuperHotkeys, and more. All of their INI files are installed.

It's what I thought, so why was it skipped? Maybe because its in the data\ini folder? Superhotkeys' ini goes into data, so works fine.
Something for the Bash thread perhaps

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:38 pm

It's what I thought, so why was it skipped? Maybe because its in the data\ini folder? Superhotkeys' ini goes into data, so works fine.
Something for the Bash thread perhaps

Yes, I am glad that quirk is finally being discussed now too. I rarely miss INIs because I spend so much time preparing and reading ReadMes before playing, but now that some mods are actually using text files (with Pluggy's extended functionality) accidentally overlooking vital components is slightly more likely, for users of all experience levels.