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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:09 am

Yesterday i have buy this game (and i'll repent that), and in my first multiplayer match i have encountered cheaters. Why people there still do that sad things? This game is very sad, all cloacked campers and cheaters... -.- The worst game ever.
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jadie kell
 
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:20 pm

yeah I know, lots of cheaters in this game
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Kirsty Wood
 
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:54 am

if you bought the game yesterday it's impossible for you to recognize if someone is cheating or just skilled. try "classic-mode", there cheaters are easier to spot...
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:47 am

That assessment would indeed be very sad, if it were accurate.

If you can make such a sweeping judgement after just a few rounds on different servers, than you must have a much higher skill level than I. It can be hard to find a fairly matched game at first. Stick with it; you'll probably do pretty well and have a great time! Welcome, and glad you're here.
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JUan Martinez
 
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:12 am

Come to fVic server, we there most of the time .. and cheater get BANNN
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:28 pm

Come to the SiTH server too. :D
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Sarah Knight
 
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:22 am

- Come on to a server with an Admin is monitoring like fVic/Sith/DDD and I guarantee that there is no cheaters there and if there is they will get ban automatically :)
- Try joining an empty server and check the map. Knowing the map can help you to improve your game
- Don't use sniper rifle yet, familiarize yourself first either on scar, mk60 or jackal
- Read the forums here, there are advice how to improve your game or watch video links (search bitey, sdub, sith, etc)
e.g. --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nfHy0Fxr4o
- If you see us on the game, ask for an advice and observe us how we play the game. Also don't call us cheater or we will be piss off :P
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:22 am

- Come on to a server with an Admin is monitoring like fVic/Sith/DDD and I guarantee that there is no cheaters there and if there is they will get ban automatically :)



I'm constantly wall hacking and ammo hacking on DDD servers everyday 100% undetected. Your false advertising makes me want to puke all over Crytek's corporate headquarters front doorstep.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:50 am

There was someone harassing me on DDD last week until I asked if it was you o.O. I didn't think that was an insult or anything, I was just curious, then they left :/. Nuclear... how does constantly cheating help the legit players community again?

Kind of depends with people cheating, if they are obviously wall hacking but still not that good, I am not sure I care that much anymore. There were a pair of people that appeared to be wall hacking/tag hacking, that I was playing against yesterday that were kicking my butt till I figured they just knew where I was like I was constantly tagged (with blindspot on). Once I started taking cover more, and using human shields (letting other players walk in front) I turned the game around on them, then they called me a cheater and raged quit. I can only assume that they were younger players, as it appears that many of the people cheating are. If they always cheat and never play properly they will never get better, which is unfortunate as younger players have better reflexes, sight and hearing.

The people that are really annoying are the people just cheating to harass people.

I have a question for you, that may be of help to me Nuclear, Do people have to quit crysis to activate cheats? I noticed some people leave the game and comeback and start playing three times better. Maybe they are just getting coffee or something, but i've always wondered why they do that.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:42 pm

Don't try to psycho-anolyse Evo. Just accept that they are cheats. Always have been. Always will be. They crave attention the same way a spoiled child does. They don't care if that attention is good, or bad, as long as they get it.
They cheat on their boyfriends/girlfriends and they cheat on life. Just a sign of the times we are living in. No personal integrity, nothing.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:44 am

Don't try to psycho-anolyse Evo. Just accept that they are cheats. Always have been. Always will be. They crave attention the same way a spoiled child does. They don't care if that attention is good, or bad, as long as they get it.
They cheat on their boyfriends/girlfriends and they cheat on life. Just a sign of the times we are living in. No personal integrity, nothing.

Well actually I've got two psych profiles for the majority of people cheating, derived from an attitudinal schema and a central salient belief.

The two types of common cheaters are;
1.) Younger children/advlts 12-18, who neurologically do not yet have complete development of the prefrontal cortex areas responsible for social behaviour and processing of social consequences. Cheating in an online game is an anti-social behaviour where consequences can be quite intangible.
2.) The other profile relates more to evolutionary psychology and predicts a gene activation pattern correlated with a higher chance of social cheating (evolutionary perspective for infidelity) when activated by the following schema and belief.

Most cheaters regardless of the above have a higher probability of possessing an externalised locus of control schema, which in normal language (lol), translates to a core belief that outcomes and performance are more to do with factors outside of their control or individual characteristics. That is to say that they believe that their gaming performance is less due to their own ability and is due to other factors, such as everyone else cheating.

The activating salient belief is that cheating is occurring as a group and that individuals are anonymous. This activates the human heuristic processing 'stupid switch', where individuals acting or believing they are acting as a group turn off their normal reasoning ability.

The combination of the above factors leads these individuals to come to believe quite strongly that absolutely everyone is cheating, and also to engage in cheating behaviours themselves. As the externalised scheme relates to how they determine their own core self esteem, individuals are likely to self justify this behaviour and continue even if others believe it is illogical. On the internet these individuals are also likely to converge and attempt to validate each other’s beliefs. This combination of factors relating to their core self esteem is in the long term associated with negative social behaviours and aggression (of varying levels).
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:36 pm

@judgment_dragon Play on official servers, or admin monitored servers. Btw. Maybe that are not cheater, maybe they are just pr0 players

@Nuclear_Reactor It's sad, how you bought a game that you will get banned in. Btw. We all know that you don't really cheat ;)

@BusinessEvolution + 100. Btw. People also cheat, when they don't know how to kill somebody.

I wonder when are we going to get a new patch... I bet this or the next month.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:46 am

@BusinessEvolution + 100. Btw. People also cheat, when they don't know how to kill somebody.


Which is where self esteem is triggered. When their competitive play behaviour is not productive, eg they do not do well, someone with an externalised locus of control will seek for lack of better wording external reasons so that their self esteem is not affected/reduced. Individuals with an internal locus of control will either try to get better at the game and improve their own understanding and skill or failing that, quit the game as their self esteem may be reduced. Thus you can assume that anyone that is a persistent cheater has an externalised locus of control.

Older individuals will be more likely to moderate the effects of either attitudinal schema. Also having high self esteem is not necessarily a good thing, depending on how you derive your self esteem. If you perform negative behaviours to aquire self esteem or do so to protect your self esteem, this is where negative behaviours can surface.

For example two extreme cases of different attitudes and resulting beliefs;
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from my score in the game, therefore everyone is/could be cheating. If I cheat I can have a good score like everyone else too."
vs
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from how well I play this game, therefore even though people are/could be cheating, I will do my best and it will make the result more meaningful for myself."

They are more the extreme ends of the spectrum, there would be individuals in between.

EDIT: Acquiring self esteem from K/D for example could pose problems as this is reliant on the performance of other players as well, this can lead to negative social behaviours of varying degrees. Acquiring self esteem from MVP in objective games and your own accuracy however are more dependant on your own abilities, which are determined by yourself. Of course the best is gaining self esteem from personal improvement in areas that are self determined, as you are competing with yourself. :O

P.S. As this is a general profile and I mention no names I am assuming this avoids the ethical issues of posting psychological profiles to an audience without a psychology background/training.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:11 am

@BusinessEvolution + 100. Btw. People also cheat, when they don't know how to kill somebody.


Which is where self esteem is triggered. When their competitive play behaviour is not productive, eg they do not do well, someone with an externalised locus of control will seek for lack of better wording external reasons so that their self esteem is not affected/reduced. Individuals with an internal locus of control will either try to get better at the game and improve their own understanding and skill or failing that, quit the game as their self esteem may be reduced. Thus you can assume that anyone that is a persistent cheater has an externalised locus of control.

Older individuals will be more likely to moderate the effects of either attitudinal schema. Also having high self esteem is not necessarily a good thing, depending on how you derive your self esteem. If you perform negative behaviours to aquire self esteem or do so to protect your self esteem, this is where negative behaviours can surface.

For example two extreme cases of different attitudes and resulting beliefs;
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from my score in the game, therefore everyone is/could be cheating. If I cheat I can have a good score like everyone else too."
vs
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from how well I play this game, therefore even though people are/could be cheating, I will do my best and it will make the result more meaningful for myself."

They are more the extreme ends of the spectrum, there would be individuals in between.

EDIT: Acquiring self esteem from K/D for example could pose problems as this is reliant on the performance of other players as well, this can lead to negative social behaviours of varying degrees. Acquiring self esteem from MVP in objective games and your own accuracy however are more dependant on your own abilities, which are determined by yourself. Of course the best is gaining self esteem from personal improvement in areas that are self determined, as you are competing with yourself. :O

P.S. As this is a general profile and I mention no names I am assuming this avoids the ethical issues of posting psychological profiles to an audience without a psychology background/training. Some people get self esteem by making other people angry :D
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:12 pm

@BusinessEvolution + 100. Btw. People also cheat, when they don't know how to kill somebody.


Which is where self esteem is triggered. When their competitive play behaviour is not productive, eg they do not do well, someone with an externalised locus of control will seek for lack of better wording external reasons so that their self esteem is not affected/reduced. Individuals with an internal locus of control will either try to get better at the game and improve their own understanding and skill or failing that, quit the game as their self esteem may be reduced. Thus you can assume that anyone that is a persistent cheater has an externalised locus of control.

Older individuals will be more likely to moderate the effects of either attitudinal schema. Also having high self esteem is not necessarily a good thing, depending on how you derive your self esteem. If you perform negative behaviours to aquire self esteem or do so to protect your self esteem, this is where negative behaviours can surface.

For example two extreme cases of different attitudes and resulting beliefs;
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from my score in the game, therefore everyone is/could be cheating. If I cheat I can have a good score like everyone else too."
vs
"There are cheaters, I am not doing well in this game, I gain self esteem from how well I play this game, therefore even though people are/could be cheating, I will do my best and it will make the result more meaningful for myself."

They are more the extreme ends of the spectrum, there would be individuals in between.

EDIT: Acquiring self esteem from K/D for example could pose problems as this is reliant on the performance of other players as well, this can lead to negative social behaviours of varying degrees. Acquiring self esteem from MVP in objective games and your own accuracy however are more dependant on your own abilities, which are determined by yourself. Of course the best is gaining self esteem from personal improvement in areas that are self determined, as you are competing with yourself. :O

P.S. As this is a general profile and I mention no names I am assuming this avoids the ethical issues of posting psychological profiles to an audience without a psychology background/training.

How many more times are you going to use the word "esteem" in your pathetic essay? You have definitely earned a P.H.D. in Trollology. Congratulations.


Yawn...
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Heather Dawson
 
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:14 pm

Yes, cheaters are around.

Why are people still so surprised by that? Every game has to deal with it.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:02 am

@CH4NCHE I Know when someone cheat, this is my video proof http://youtu.be/TxgxqJFX5LY
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:53 am

@CH4NCHE I Know when someone cheat, this is my video proof http://youtu.be/TxgxqJFX5LY

You'd be more helpful if you included the name in the description, I got him anyway.

Name: Denek

Profile ID: 318170455

Banned from here:

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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:58 pm

How many more times are you going to use the word "esteem" in your pathetic essay? You have definitely earned a P.H.D. in Trollology. Congratulations.

Yawn...

Not possible NRNM, someone already has a PHD in Trollology. Though I wasn't picking a fight with anyone in particular, I just assumed nobody would read it, and that you wouldn't make any sense of it. I suppose posting above the average reading age of a forum does count as trolling in a sense though. Also my PhD isn't on something as random as trolling, if it actually was, you would be helping my research quite a lot.

Your misplaced remark, is as you said it, part of your defensive mechanism. I can hardly feel any anger towards someone who is either young or will have issues with relationships. You have my sympathy. A certain cheater appears whenever I talk to you, its rather odd, maybe you are friends.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:36 am

How many more times are you going to use the word "esteem" in your pathetic essay? You have definitely earned a P.H.D. in Trollology. Congratulations.
Projection FTW. Priceless. Thanks for playing.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:14 am

Holy moly.... EVO... I feel like I should be reading a manual on the mental makeup of cheaters....lol. The fact of the matter is cheating has been around since video games have existed... It seems to me most cheaters want to piss people off... Being an admin in Crysis Wars, that was number one reason cheaters gave..For those you who believe that you are actually stopping a cheater from entering your server after a ban.... lol..... You better think again... You can't stop it... You can only hope to contain it
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Not possible NRNM, someone already has a PHD in Trollology. Though I wasn't picking a fight with anyone in particular, I just assumed nobody would read it, and that you wouldn't make any sense of it. I suppose posting above the average reading age of a forum does count as trolling in a sense though. Also my PhD isn't on something as random as trolling, if it actually was, you would be helping my research quite a lot.

Your misplaced remark, is as you said it, part of your defensive mechanism. I can hardly feel any anger towards someone who is either young or will have issues with relationships. You have my sympathy. A certain cheater appears whenever I talk to you, its rather odd, maybe you are friends.

I had always assumed there was a lacking in cheaters, but more of a physical size issue in a particular area, doomed to be forever unsatisfied and always looking for a quick fix ... found the posts very interesting/educational reading
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:08 am

TY, kephri. It may also follow that the subject assumes that everyone else is similarly "configured", and so the responsibility for this acute lack of satisfaction lies not with him/her but obviously with others. This one insignificant, tiny problem might work hand in hand with the need to "measure up", as with, in this example, a higher kdr.

Regardless, all can agree on the end result: cheaters svck.
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Post » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:24 am

Classic mode is the only mode i will ever play now. I'm sick of people who stay cloaked and camp the whole time. it's way hard to tell if they are hacking or not in normal mode.
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I still don't see why everyone is complaining of cheaters in this game. I've put a good number of hours into this games multiplayer on a number of different servers and have seen only THREE, yes THREE cheaters in this game. Some people do destroy me in game, but that's because they're just better than me. I can admit, I am not very good at this game's multiplayer, but I hardly ever see cheaters in this game.

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