Say a child was born of a Nord father and Dunmer mother, would the Dunmer child have any features from the father ot not?

Probably. It would be something subtle, like having skin that is a lighter shade of blue than normal. Possibly they would have a shorter lifespan than the average Dunmer as well.

The only in game example I remember of a mixed race offspring, is Agronak gro-Malog the Grey Prince. Other than the fact hes paler than most Orcs, he looks like the typical Orc. Now the question is why is he paler? Is it because of his father being an Imperial or a vampire?

His father being Imperial would have made his skin pale and him also being a vampire would have made it even paler.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/interviews-skeleton-man says: "The Dunmer I know also avoid offending humans by keeping human slaves of any nation, although slaves with Nordic features are common enough in the north." I could be wrong, but I took this to mean half-breed Dunmer with some Nordic features. Taller than usual (like Symmachus), lighter skinned, that kind of thing.

Though reading it again now, I think he could be talking about humans and just specifying that they're Nords. So Nord slaves were once common in northern Morrowind.

Except were not so sure about that, but it would make sense.

Both interpretations make sense.

As it stands, mixed children will take almost completely after the mother.

Thats for short term mixing, however Bretons prove that if races mix their blood long term a hybrid is created. I do not recall ever reading of how many generations it took for Bretons to start being created.

If thats the case how do mix raced parents differentiate from mixed race offspring? Even worse it makes it even harder to actually know if the kid is yours or not. I find it easier to sympathize with some bandits now.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny

Biggest case in point: The result of some weird eugenics project by the Direnni Aldmer in what is now High Rock using their Nedic concubines was a race of "manmer": longer lives than other races of Men (but still not on-par with elves), and greater magical affinity than other races of Men, but still distinctly Man-like in appearance (aside from the odd slightly point ears every now and then). Eventually, these hybrids outpopulated their aldmeri and nedic parent races and the province of High Rock became theirs: They are now known as the Bretons. Some high Breton aristocratic families still have a slight point to their ears.

I wonder if its due to game limitations, but shouldn't the Reachmen look different than the typical Breton? If I remember correctly, the Reachmen have a even more mixed bloodline than most races.

again we dont know how many generations of interracial breeding it takes for the child to finally start taking features from both races. Bretons are the only race where this took place afaik, might be an anomaly.

I wonder if the whole 'mixed race relations take after their parents' thing, indicate that the Mer of Ancient High Rock routinely took human wives, or just had non-consensual six with a lot of human females. The Bretons are part Mer at best. Nowhere near half. Kind of paints a fairly bleak picture to be honest, then again, it is Tamriel.

Anywho, to answer the topic simply.

The babe takes after the mother in mixed race relations but the babe has many smaller features of the father. I am guessing such things would manifest as minor changes to facial structure, different eye/hair/skin color, maybe a tail bone protrusion/extended fangs/nails if it is a beast race father, etc etc...addtionally there would be some change to lifespan and instincts as well. Maybe a Khajiit(male) Dunmer(female) coupling would result in a Dunmer baby with better than normal night vision, orange eyes, somewhat hairier than usual skin, larger fangs, thicker fingernails and a slightly protruding tail bone.

Hard to say though, it might be a magic did it kind of thing. Maybe the magic of Nir overpowers the masculine essence and just formulates a matrice to accomodate the feminine. I would imagine it would be painful for a Altmer women to bear an Argonian or Khajiit baby with all those scales and claws. Or to pop out an egg if that is the case. In which case Nir left behind a legacy for those of feminine persuasion as she was the first feminine thing iirc.

Beast races and Mer/Men Races don't mix?! Dunno.

The Kats are dependent on the Moon-phases and the Reptiles lay eggs. SO how would that go?

And the Phylogeny Book states that there have been "Reports" of such mixing but that's all we know.

Anyway.

The things that i find intriguing, is the fact that this particular Book states that "the reproductive biology of Orcs (Orsimer) is at present not well understood."

Intriguing because they are supposed to be Mer too; Mer that got turned ugly...but Mer still.

Did the devouring of Trinimac change them on a reproductive level too?

The way I understand TES Racial mixing to occur, it's not simply a one sided affair. In the case of the Bretons, you had the offspring of Aldmer and Nedic parents then turning around and continuing the cycle. So let's say Aldmer Male + Nedic Female = Nedic (by and large) Male, who then couples with an Aldmer Female...etc etc.

It's not just one straight line to racial mixing, but several generations worth of back and forth.

Traditionally the Orsimer have been outcasts and the other races even denied they were sapient and cultured, grouping them with the goblin-kin.

The writer of the book, depending on when it was written and who did the writing, may not have even realised the Orsimer were elves.

I don't think their reproductive methods will have changed on their transformation, but it is conceivable that lack of contact with the outside world simply meant that the author knew nothing about them.

Bretons aren't really a hybrid. They're still men, but have an affinity for magic and slightly altered lifespans.

That's where the 'takes after the mother' bit works. Since the mother is the one that carries and births the child (or possibly lays the eggs, in the case of an Argonian), that it comes out like them would resolve most issues. It wouldn't matter if the father was an Orc, Nord, Altmer, etc, since the child will largely be like any other child of non-mixed race parentage for the mother.

Uhm. Yes, they are a half-breed. They're descendants of the Aldmeri / Nedic mixing which occurred back in the Merethic era.

They don't look at all Altmeri to me.

No, they really aren't. As most of us have always known and as the developers of ESO have made painfully clear, Bretons are considered fully human by themselves, other humans, and all elves.

Its not a 50/50 thing. Its more like 90/10.

I didn't say they were 100% elf. Half-breed may not have been the correct term. Cross-breed is what I meant. They still have elvish blood, even if it's only 10%.

So they ARE really a hybrid, despite the exact mixture.

Also, the Bretons are typically thrown in with the Anuic-aligned elves, from what I have seen at least: calling Sheor "the Bad man."

I'm not disputing that they shouldn't be called "men." I'm just pointing out that there's an admixture of blood and beliefs with the Bretons. More than ESO may give the race credit for.

Since the days of actually quoting texts to support arguments seem long gone, I'll just leave this here:

"One of the earliest tales of Khosey describes a Nord raiding party attacking a group of what they presumed to be Aldmer, but who were, on closer inspection, a mongrel race between elf and human, the remnants of the earlier lost Nedic tribe. They were somewhat awkwardly called "Manmeri," but we know them today as Bretons."--3rd PGE

So yes, Melchior, you are correct.

So which races are the Bretons made from? If they are Nordic/Altmer, shouldn't they be taller, not very short?

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