A Chimeri Vampire

Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:40 pm

I am currently writing a story set in The Elder Scrolls universe - It will be split into three parts (Each part referred to as a book) and it centres around the tale of a Dunmeri Vampire named Seras Arenim. I am almost finished the first book but I am troubled by one aspect of the story I will be introducing in the second.

After a shipwreck on the northern-eastern coast of Tamriel between Blacklight and Winterhold, the protagonist is lost in the wild. Dazed, confused and after a long journey he ends up in the desolate Valus Mountains/Velothi Mountains region. Just to survive, Seras burrows into the earth to sleep by day and preys on passing bandits, outlaws and wayward travellers by night - His life is reduced to a living nightmare.

Now what I propose to happen is, just as Seras awakens in the earth early one evening to hunt again, he comes face to face with another Vampire - A Chimer. He is thousands of years old. Older than Divayth Fyr and even older than The Tribunal. Probably even the oldest living being in Tamriel.
The Chimer's name is Duneldas Or (Please, I welcome any suggestions for a better Chimeri name). After the surreal awkwardness of their initial meeting, Duneldas takes Seras to his Velothi Tower hidden deep in the mountains. He clothes Seras, cleans him, provides fresh blood and gives him a bed to sleep the mental/physical exhaustion off.

Days later after much sleep and blood, Seras begins conversation with Duneldas who imparts the story of his creation and life upon him. He tells of his earliest memories - The exodus following Saint Veloth from the Summerset Isles, trekking from the West to the East. How he and a few other Chimer became separated from the march, lost in the Velothi Mountains at night. They make camp in the cold, when they are sprung upon by a group of monsters; Vampires.
The group is slaughtered and Duneldas is taken by the matriarch, a Nedic female who turns him out of pure want and possession.

Duneldas Or has survived in the mountains to this day (At this point in time, the story is just a year or two before the events of The Elder Scrolls III), where he seems more of a refined monster than anything else (My avatar is what I imagine Duneldas to look like. Long ebony hair, fair-golden skin and sharp eyes). He is extremely learned, cultured, ancient yet has no regard whatsoever for mortal life. He kills without a second thought.

Now, is this possible? A Chimer Vampire? The way I'm thinking is, because he became separated from the Velothi Exodites so long ago, he was unaffected when Azura cursed the Chimer into the Dunmer. Please let me know your thoughts and criticisms. Also, I have left a lot of information and story out - So if you want any other information or snippets, just ask.

Thank you in advance.
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Haley Cooper
 
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:27 pm


Gypsy Moth dustmemore insert - it should be noted here that it is always foolish to think of whole races sharing like minds. "Ayleid" is as much a metaphysical designation as it is a cultural one. Just like the earliest Chimer who orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites, but remain Chimer today, large numbers of Ayleids showed more interest in the immediate earthly needs of agriculture rather than the magical needs of concept-farming. This distinction becomes important later, when "Ayleid" begins to designate other, and ofttimes foreign, agencies.



Take that for what you will.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:13 pm

That's very insightful and pretty much answers my question.

Thank you.
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Deon Knight
 
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:57 pm

Were there even any Vampires in Morrowind during that time? Could they have been Dwemer (Since they were the first to settle in Morrowind, then Dwemerith)
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:34 am

You mean before the arrival of the Velothi Exodites in Morrowind? Maybe. In myth, the first Vampire(s) was/were Nedic people - So I imagine it's highly possibly.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:05 pm

Every people will have their own legends of vampires, or similar evil spirits. They aren't reserved for nedes.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:28 pm

The only way I can think it would be possible is if he had been outside of Nirn the moment the Chimer became the Dunmer. Perhaps there could be other ways, but given the Tools were involved, no known method of blocking the effects aside from being outside the range exists. As far as I know at least.

Edit: Well, possible if everything that everyone else pointed out is resolved.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:41 pm

What more do you want than Nu-Hatta?
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:26 am

Every people will have their own legends of vampires, or similar evil spirits. They aren't reserved for nedes.

In reference to http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/lairvileopusculuslamae.shtml - I take it as the creation myth of Vampires shared by most societies and cultures, especially where Molag Bal is concerned. If the first Vampires were Nedes, then the first places it would of spread to would've been Skyrim (Respectively), Morrowind and High Rock; due to the invading nature/movements of the early Nede/Nord peoples.

In my fan fiction, I want to insinuate that the Nedic matriarch that takes Duneldas is Lamae Bal - That's a secret though.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:58 am

You aren't tied to that interpretation, though. That's all I was saying.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:19 am

I like your idea, sounds interesting
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:29 pm

there definatley could be a Chimeri vampire; on a metaphysical level his race is "Vampire", not "Chimer," and so he'd still have golden skin.

O, and Diviath Fyr is older than Sotha Sil the Mortal (although SIV is much, much older.)

Names of Chimer tend to be one syllable, with their family name first.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:01 am

The only way I can think it would be possible is if he had been outside of Nirn the moment the Chimer became the Dunmer. Perhaps there could be other ways, but given the Tools were involved, no known method of blocking the effects aside from being outside the range exists.
If we consider Chimer just as dissident Altmer, then we words of Nu-Hatta can be interpreted thus: some communities of Chimer exist on Summerset Iles of somewhere else in Tamriel up to now, and though they physically closer to Altmer and not to modern Dunmer, they have velothian system of beliefs.

What about Cantemiric Velothi, by the way?
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:17 pm

If we consider Chimer just as dissident Altmer, then we words of Nu-Hatta can be interpreted thus: some communities of Chimer exist on Summerset Iles of somewhere else in Tamriel up to now, and though they physically closer to Altmer and not to modern Dunmer, they have velothian system of beliefs.

What about Cantemiric Velothi, by the way?

Interesting, I did not know about that.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:14 pm

Hmm, so if there were Chimer who didn't go on the Velothi Exodus, would they still have remained Chimer?
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:36 pm

I like your idea, sounds interesting

Thanks - This is a huge project for me, so I am very keen to get the first part done and dusted.

Names of Chimer tend to be one syllable, with their family name first.

Great, thank you, this is the kind of input I was after; so Or Duneldas or just Duneldas (Maybe Or-Duneldas) is more appropriate? I want to stick as close to lore as possible.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:30 pm

The Velothi Exodus is what 'made' Chimer, being the ones that followed the prophet Velothi, any 'chimer' who remained on Summerset, wouldn't of been Chimer because they didn't follow Velothi, and thus weren't culturally divided, hence are merely Altmer (the 'Chimer' also aren't just dissident Altmer, because there were other groups who could share the description 'dissident', Maormer, Dwe-folk and so on, who broke off for ideological reasons rather than for colonisation, like the Ayleids, Direnni and Snow Elves(possibly)).

I think when you're talking about Velothi in current terms, the cultural/relegious division is probably out-weighed by the racial differences now, because much like the current Ayleids (whom much later in their history described as "darker than Altmer, but lighter than Dunmer") the number of years would have taken a toll on their appearance. Also, when you're looking at the "birth" (culturally anyway) of the current race of Velothi (if it indeed survives in whatever form), it would be when the "Dunmer" are created, those Chimer whom followed the Tribunal/Nerevar and were subsequently cursed by Azura, the current day Chimer however wouldn't of fought or followed the Tribunal, and because of this weren't transformed by the same curse the now-Dunmer indured (but it is to be assumed that the number of Chimer who didn't follow the Tribunal is obviously small, and for good reason too, they were disloyal to their home province in a time of invasion/war, or were somewhere else, in Black Marsh for example, and simply didn't care what happened to their 'buddies' in Morrowind).
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:47 pm

Just like the earliest Chimer who orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites, but remain Chimer today ...

You're Chimer, only by following Veloth to Velothi, so the orphaning came after making their way to Morrowind. Not even the ashlanders, who call themselves Velothi, were loyal to Veloth, because they too followed the Tribunal; and you're Dunmer, only by following the Tribunal at Red Mountain. So, these modern Chimer did not follow the Tribunal, but cut themselves off from the body of Exodites - those who fulfilled the Velothi Exodus, by coming to Morrowind, anon Velothi.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:41 pm

Thank you all for your input - My question has been thoroughly answered.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:32 am

I thought the Chimer names were similar to Dunmer names, Like Indoril Nerevar.
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