Civilian Mode

Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:42 am

Well looking through the website I came across somewhere that the medic has a unique objective where they escort a civilian to safety. Now this got me thinking, so in many PC games there's the spectate option where it can be joined as an actual team. However for Brink I though it might be cool if the spectators could play as an unarmed civilian. They get to learn the maps, where one can go as different weights and such. However being in the middle of a live match lets them find where the chokepoints are, where are good flanking routes etc. So perhaps its 8v8 playing but theres one or two slots for a civilian spectator. If this really gets off the ground perhaps these spectators are the ones that get guided, and they get some bonus for cooperating etc.
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Mark
 
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:06 pm

Oh that would casue problems. Duchebag spectators join a game and when a medic tries to escort them they run off and not be co-operative.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:19 pm

good idea, but i doubt most people would do what they are supposed to do, but instead ruin the whole part of the game with civilians
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:20 pm

I have to agree with Skynet and Hey its ME. An option for someone on your team to play as the civilian might work but it would certainly change things around. For one why would a Medic have to be involved in the escort, presumably anyone could do that then since the civilian could choose to following anyone.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:46 pm

Well looking through the website I came across somewhere that the medic has a unique objective where they escort a civilian to safety. Now this got me thinking, so in many PC games there's the spectate option where it can be joined as an actual team. However for Brink I though it might be cool if the spectators could play as an unarmed civilian. They get to learn the maps, where one can go as different weights and such. However being in the middle of a live match lets them find where the chokepoints are, where are good flanking routes etc. So perhaps its 8v8 playing but theres one or two slots for a civilian spectator. If this really gets off the ground perhaps these spectators are the ones that get guided, and they get some bonus for cooperating etc.


Sounds pretty cool!Are there even civillians in the game?

Yaaay first post for Jorg :)
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:17 am

I think you all got it wrong, or I did.

The OP does not talk about people playing the civilian involved in a mission, but some completely random one. It's just basicly a spectator who is not bound to a player of either team Security or Resistance, but neither able to fly across the map.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:53 pm

it's a pretty good idea, but as has been said, that guy might ruin the game for a lot of people.
better leave it to a NPC who doesn't get excited because he can get a bunch of people yelling at him
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:30 am

If it's like Revoluzzer explained, I don't think it would cause problems (You just view the map from the civilians point of view, but can't control the character)

But if they have a normal spectator mode, it would be pretty useless because you could just follow the civs anyway in free look.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:29 am

YOu could put a spectator in something like a helicopter.

My example is Container City were you see he chopper fly over head in the cinema part. A spectator could be have a birds eye view of the map, watching gun fight and players that got to high layers of the map running about while they can only hear the sounds of the chopper and maybe some radio transmissions.

This would be an option to view from.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:47 pm

If it's like Revoluzzer explained, I don't think it would cause problems (You just view the map from the civilians point of view, but can't control the character)

But if they have a normal spectator mode, it would be pretty useless because you could just follow the civs anyway in free look.

no no no, you got him wrong, he means you'd just be a random civvie, not involved in the escort objective.
you WOULD be able to control the civvie
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:45 pm

I don't like it. The Civi can get in the line of fire, distract, or scout for the opposing team if party chat is allowed. I think the NPC Civi is a better, more balanced idea. +1 for creativity though
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:19 am

Yeah basically I meant that the civie IS controllable, however now I agree that they shouldn't be the ones that are in the medic mission. Basically I thought this might be a cool way for players to explore the maps while being able to harmlessly observe where the main engagement areas are, where good turrets spots are, good flanking routes etc. They can't type messages or block movement, so basically they can't grief others players.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:50 pm

Yeah basically I meant that the civie IS controllable, however now I agree that they shouldn't be the ones that are in the medic mission. Basically I thought this might be a cool way for players to explore the maps while being able to harmlessly observe where the main engagement areas are, where good turrets spots are, good flanking routes etc. They can't type messages or block movement, so basically they can't grief others players.


If you want to explore maps its best done offline. Besides if you are the escorted civilian you need to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible, not sightseeing.

Also you learn places to plae turrets etc by playing the game with other people. You see their tricks and spots and incorperate them into your gameplay.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:16 pm

thats a dumb idea, i think that will ruin the experience for people. When i first saw that game and heard what developers had to say, i thought hey, im just gonna go out and begin my own journey, with surprise in front of me, not some gay little spectate where you can look around to make life easier for you. i want a challenge, not a little kids guide
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:55 am

Well looking through the website I came across somewhere that the medic has a unique objective where they escort a civilian to safety. Now this got me thinking, so in many PC games there's the spectate option where it can be joined as an actual team. However for Brink I though it might be cool if the spectators could play as an unarmed civilian. They get to learn the maps, where one can go as different weights and such. However being in the middle of a live match lets them find where the chokepoints are, where are good flanking routes etc. So perhaps its 8v8 playing but theres one or two slots for a civilian spectator. If this really gets off the ground perhaps these spectators are the ones that get guided, and they get some bonus for cooperating etc.

i dont think that would be a good idea because ppl would ignor the medic and it would be extremly cheap cuz then they would have the upper edvantige on the pther team and alot of ppl would go into it and the game would never end but that would be a good idea for privite games
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:47 am

Well looking through the website I came across somewhere that the medic has a unique objective where they escort a civilian to safety. Now this got me thinking, so in many PC games there's the spectate option where it can be joined as an actual team. However for Brink I though it might be cool if the spectators could play as an unarmed civilian. They get to learn the maps, where one can go as different weights and such. However being in the middle of a live match lets them find where the chokepoints are, where are good flanking routes etc. So perhaps its 8v8 playing but theres one or two slots for a civilian spectator. If this really gets off the ground perhaps these spectators are the ones that get guided, and they get some bonus for cooperating etc.


why would they waste time on this, your saying that it would be exactly like playing exept you dont get to shoot, why not just add 2 more slots instead of civilians, besides they cut out fire (molotovs) due to time constraints, this would take a hell of a lot longer to do than fire
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:50 pm

why would they waste time on this, your saying that it would be exactly like playing exept you dont get to shoot, why not just add 2 more slots instead of civilians, besides they cut out fire (molotovs) due to time constraints, this would take a hell of a lot longer to do than fire

Reports of people playing at the EGE say that Molotovs were put back in. And the version that was at the EGE was a nearly finished version minus all of the balancing they are still working on.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:23 pm

Reports of people playing at the EGE say that Molotovs were put back in. And the version that was at the EGE was a nearly finished version minus all of the balancing they are still working on.

Molotovs are back in. It's confirmed in one of the latest videos. However, I'm currently not in the position to do much research.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:05 am

crazy thought, what about having a mission to kill the civilian so you could chose to help, ignore, or kill him. There is interrogation why not make players the targets and civilians one of the targets. Another point you don't have to play the civilian or any class, if you don't like them.

giving civilians extra health or take bullets better that's just crazy talk but making them harder to hit because of panicked running little more sens.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:54 pm

I like the idea of spectator mode being called Civilian. Any that you can't just fly around, but instead are treated as a character. Would that work? So you can run around as a civilian, but nobody can see you unless they're one also.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:49 pm

It wouldn't be long before people started using it to either block people or strafe in front of them so they couldn't see.
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Post » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:09 pm

Lol civilian , this sounds like the idea behind Team Fortress Classic hunted map D:, but ye a newbie civilian player can ruin the map for all : P
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