[RELZ] Class Advantages : IV - Oblivion

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:56 pm

Doesn't the mod got no class seem counter purpose to this mod?

Maybe even immediate character generation.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:35 am

Doesn't the mod got no class seem counter purpose to this mod?

Maybe even immediate character generation.

Got no Class and ICG are mods only for the beginning. I am loading a current character with Class Advantages.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:22 am

So what - that does not mean that those mods don't set things in the save game that mess with Class Advantages.

Well you asked what could be the issue and those popped out. Might be worth testing mod compatibility by focusing on the mods that cover similar territory.

actually - best of luck - I'm out.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:30 am

Removed GNC and ICG, saved, quit, activated CA, rebuilt, loaded game, freeze.

Unloading TRAPs and Birthsigns Expanded now, and if that doesn't work, trying the old beta 19.4.

...nope...beta didn't work...

...narrowing it down...removed a group of mods and now got CA to activate with no freezing....now to engage a few at a time back down the line...

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:06 am

Found the conflict. If someone else can load CA with TNO's HUD Status Bars to see if it locks up on you then we have more confirmation.

This is my current, load up fine, quit to main menu then quit game fine, load order:

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» Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:39 am

I really like the choices this mod offers. They allow the player a wonderful opportunity to customize a character. I've only gone through the tutorial dungeon so far (I'm still getting my list together, testing, etc) but I have to say I immediately felt my character was more unique than she would have been without this mod. I especially like the passive choices. I'm one who sometimes forgets to use half of my spells after I've accumulated a long list of them. Passive powers are great for players with short-term memory dysfunction like myself, lol..

I have one suggestion to make, based on my short time playing this mod. I think it would be helpful if there was an in-game explanation for each advantage. When I reached Baurus I was forced to exit the game, study the readme, write my three choices down on a piece of paper, go back into the game and then make my selections. If in-game explanations aren't possible then I think there should be a note in the readme informing the player to make his choices prior to starting the mod for the first time.

Other than that, I think this is a great mod and I can easily see it being a must-have for all of my games in the future. Great job!

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:17 am

Actually I was surprised to learn that a lot of the active powers were not spells either.

They were just dependent on an action being taken - like automagic cloak - activate by sneaking.

I've yet to see NPCs using them but then how would I see that?

great stuff.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:50 am

Anyone else having the above problem? I tried with a minimal install: Oblivion.esm, all patches, nGCD, Progress, this mod, and turning HUD Stats Bars on and off and it locks up at load on a new game when one or the other are activated.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:05 pm

Apologies for the late reply, I've been busy.

@ITPaladin: I'm D/Ling HUD Status Bars now and I'm gonna check out what the problem may be. I do find it odd, since CA has nothing to do with Oblivion's UI.

@Pseron Wyrd: Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the mod. As for in-game descriptions, I hit the character/line limit for scripts in the CS so I had no more room to add descriptions. Once I get more experience with OBSE scripting I can figure out a way. Oh and I will go ahead and add your suggestion to the readme.

@Psymon: Yes, only a few active advantages are powers, specifically Magicka Buffer and Mental Alacrity. I limited activated type advantages since NPC usage of powers (if they actually do have powers) are quite unpredictable. From my experience, they don't even use them at all. So I made most active advantages activate through an action instead. To be honest, I still have to see an NPC use Automagic Cloak since Vanilla Oblivion rarely ever makes an NPC sneak on its own. I know there are mods that actually make NPCs sneak around, like TIE or maybe some of the stealth mods.

» Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:12 pm

There is a mod that makes NPCs use powers but never tried it. I don't know if it allows for mod-changed power use.
Realistic Sneak for NPCs does the cloak/camo for them.

I have a problem keeping my character in a sneak mode with my left ctrl. I went through my ini files trying to see if a hotkey change for left ctrl is conflicting but couldn't find it using "ctrl", "control", or "29" (key code).
I used to be able to hit it once and sneak without holding and popping back up. I thought it was Stealth Overhaul but nothing in that ini file. Once I get it figured out then I can enjoy these more. X is set as a stealth toggle somehow (it isn't in SO, and I don't see a way to change it in Thieves Arsenal without clean saving and starting over) so it 'conflicts' with Refscope's default X setting which I can't see how to change that either.
Too many ini files and keys to keep track of...

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:00 am

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29485 is the mod in question, but it changes the powers so that they apply to the NPCs better - although that could be a subjective opinion too. Adds the powers through tokens as I recall I've not used it though.

As I understand it natively NPCs don't have birthsigns and hence no birthsign powers. I've really only seen one racial power used and that is ancestor guardian.

Getting the NPCs to use these powers would be interesting.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:57 am

I've really only seen one racial power used and that is ancestor guardian.

Y'know, thinking back on it, this was true for me too until I wrote TRAP. Since then I've had several racial powers used against me. (Star of the West is mean.)

I don't have Enemy Actors Use Powers installed, but most of my new/modified racial powers are added through scripts; maybe that jogs something in the AI?

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:12 am

Enemy actors specifically targets the use of Birthsign powers (not racial) and again my understanding is that NPCs don't have birthsigns and it is the only mod (I know of) that attempts to assign them.

But interesting that TRAP has NPCs using powers - does Birthsigns extended do that?

Again I think this mod is really well done and I hope that inspiration is there to tackle race and birthsign powers too.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:54 am

Realistic Sneak for NPCs does the cloak/camo for them.

Good, works as I had hoped. :thumbsup:

As for NPCs using powers, I'm guessing maybe they will only use them if it's a racial ability?

Regarding the crash issue with HUD Status Bars, I can confirm that it happens. The game works fine on a fresh load, but reloading a save after that does make the game lock up. I'm gonna tinker with my scripts and test something out.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:31 pm

Well as a last ditch effort to recruit/inspire you (or whatever) - Appler did appear today and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1075687-relz-applers-passive-birthsigns/page__view__findpost__p__16614034 to anyone for updating and taking over his mods.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:13 am

Well it seems I'm stumped as to how CA and HUD Status Bars would make Oblivion crash when they're both running. Even though I can confirm that it happens, is there anyone who actually manages to use both without having crashes? Please let me know.

Well as a last ditch effort to recruit/inspire you (or whatever) - Appler did appear today and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1075687-relz-applers-passive-birthsigns/page__view__findpost__p__16614034 to anyone for updating and taking over his mods.

Unfortunately, 90% of my modding focus is now on http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=1042037. The other 10% goes to bug fixing for Class Advantages. So I'm afraid I cannot even attempt to contiune Appler's project, or even start on another mod. But as seeing as there is interest in Passive Birthsigns, I'm sure someone will pick it up.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:09 am

Well it seems I'm stumped as to how CA and HUD Status Bars would make Oblivion crash when they're both running. Even though I can confirm that it happens, is there anyone who actually manages to use both without having crashes? Please let me know.

I have now looked into it, and the cause is something I'm pretty sure is a bug in OBSE's new event handler code, so I wrote a bug report in the OBSE thread about this yesterday. In short, OBSE goes into a freeze when HUD Status Bars release an event handler, if another mod has added one - which CA does. If the OBSE team takes time to fix this, I will releas a new version of HSB that doesn't release its event handler (CA doesn't either), which will fix this. So there's no need for CA's code to be changed (except maybe be a bit more sparse in use of event handlers to improve effectiveness, but that's another discussion).

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:25 am

@TheNiceOne: I never would have figured that out. When I get the chance I will try and minimize the number of event handlers in CA. Thanks for looking into this issue. That's one less headache for me to worry about.

» Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:32 pm

I am happy to say that Class Advantages has reached the final version, 1.00! But just because it's final does not mean I won't do any necessary bug fixes. So please report any issues on this build.

And for those who had trouble with CA running with HUD Status Bars, I believe a new version of HUD was released (a few weeks ago I think) that may have fixed crashing issues on loading saved games.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:58 pm

Hi there! And thanks for the nice mod! I really love how it blends with gameplay, offering new options and strategies without feeling overpowered...

One small issue I noticed is a slight incompatibility with hotkeys mods...
I'm talking about those magic focus (forgot the name

) perks that allow you to recover a % of the mp on some schools of magic, since many hotkeys mods allow for "autocast" , the script gets fooled by the rapid spell switching (I think...). Basically, if I focus on mysticism and keep an absorb spell ready in my magic slot, when I press the autocast for a shield spell, my active spell gets changed for a sec and then goes back to the absorb spell, byt I get back a % of MP as if I acrually CAST a mysticism spell...

Don't know if there's some easy workaround for that, but I suppose it is better if I let you know!

I'm using Enhanced hotkeys, but I think said problem would arise with Super Hotkeys and AutoCastKey ( I should try uninstalling and bugtesting without mods, if I'm correct said behaviour should manifest even with a fast manual spell switching, via Vanilla hotkeys)

Hope this is helpful, thanks again for your work!

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:13 am

And for those who had trouble with CA running with HUD Status Bars, I believe a new version of HUD was released (a few weeks ago I think) that may have fixed crashing issues on loading saved games.

Yes, HUD Status Bars 2.0 avoided the problematic OBSE command, so they should be safe to use together now

One small issue I noticed is a slight incompatibility with hotkeys mods...
I'm talking about those magic focus (forgot the name

) perks that allow you to recover a % of the mp on some schools of magic, since many hotkeys mods allow for "autocast" , the script gets fooled by the rapid spell switching (I think...). Basically, if I focus on mysticism and keep an absorb spell ready in my magic slot, when I press the autocast for a shield spell, my active spell gets changed for a sec and then goes back to the absorb spell, byt I get back a % of MP as if I acrually CAST a mysticism spell...

Don't know if there's some easy workaround for that, but I suppose it is better if I let you know!

I'm using Enhanced hotkeys, but I think said problem would arise with Super Hotkeys and AutoCastKey ( I should try uninstalling and bugtesting without mods, if I'm correct said behaviour should manifest even with a fast manual spell switching, via Vanilla hotkeys)

I have no idea how often CA checks for this, but Enhanced Hotkeys have two settings that can possibly help: tnoEH.preCastDelay and tnoEH.postCastDelay. They determine the number of additional frames that the spell that is being cast, will be kept as active spell before and after the actual casting. Setting the relevant (I would guess tnoEH.postCastDelay) to a high enough number may help CA to detect correct spell - but will of course have the drawback of seeing the cast spell stay active longer too.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:05 pm

tnoEH.preCastDelay and tnoEH.postCastDelay. They determine the number of additional frames that the spell that is being cast

Wow! Crafty! I'll thinker with those, thanks a lot!

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:02 am

I think I have found an incompatibility. When using Inteligence Overhaul, Magicka Affinity doesn't work. You will get only 1 point of magicka for every point of inteligence.

P.S. I was not using the final version of this mod at the time, so I don't know if this is fixed now.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:32 am

I think I have found an incompatibility. When using Inteligence Overhaul, Magicka Affinity doesn't work. You will get only 1 point of magicka for every point of inteligence.

P.S. I was not using the final version of this mod at the time, so I don't know if this is fixed now.

Isn't that the way the mod works? I have this installed and this is what the readme says:

Intelligence now represents your ability to learn from the world around you. A smarter player will be able to learn skills faster, learn more quickly from trainers, be able to train more per level, and even learn more from skill books. These new features are balances by two things. The first is the obvious fact that choosing Intelligence prevents you from choosing other attributes that provide immediate benefits, while the second is that I have reduced the Magicka yield of Intelligence so you only receive one point of Magicka per point of Intelligence.

I had to balance Intelligence, because all the new features made it way too powerful. The solution was to reduce its magicka yield, making each point of Intelligence give only one point of Magicka.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:12 am

Isn't that the way the mod works? I have this installed and this is what the readme says:

Yes, Intelligence Overhoul works all right. It is the Magicka Affinity that has no effect if you choose it.
You will only get what Intelligence Overhaul gives you, making Magicka Affinity useless because you will not get the intended bonus to magicka.