still think a lot of people will be pissed

and what the other side of the case is trying to say is that they are used to the classes for roleplaying reasons and we don't want them removed

thank you for clearing up that matter i think i finally understand, and the way you put it im happy with that the only other weapon i play around with anyway is the bow, and i hate hammers.

I don't get this. Shouldn't it get harder to level up as you get to higher levels? Why make you level up faster when you are higher?

More onto topic Ahem....


Perhaps he game will label you as you progress much like it did in FO3 (OMG prime get off the FO3 kick) There may indeed be a necromancer label but you have to have the right skills increased or dow certain things ingame that would garner that title much like your title as Grand Champion in OB

There is no roleplaying purpose to classes. Oblivion never acknowledged what your class was. That is what I am saying. It was literally stored in a file that the game never acknowledges. This is the exact same thing as writing all your characters stats down on a piece of paper and then naming it "Thief" or whatever. I actually like to write down my skill choices and come up with a name for my custom class, but its the same thing.

If people don't care that over time Beth has cut half of the series' original skills out, they're probably unlikely to care whether they get to pick a name to go on a menu somewhere. Don't get me wrong, I was kinda bummed too at first, but when you actually think about how little your choice of class actually amounts to, the new system sounds better by far. We'll see though.

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Not high character level, high level in a skill. If your Blade is 70 and it raises to 71, that will contribute more to your next level than your Alteration going from 5 to 6.

and a little note to that: i play TES to play TES, not F3 with swords

yes i agree that the games never acknowledge your class but i also think that instead of cutting it out they should make it more appearent

yeah like if you can join the necromancer cult (if there is one) and people on the street recognize you, you could probably hear them whispering and talking to each other ''hey there's that necromancer the town guards warned us about'' kinda like that, people around the world would know who you are and what you do.

I'm very very glad they removed the class system.

In Oblivion they really had no effect anyway, basically any class could do and be anything. Which was great, I loved that! However it made classes pretty redundant. All it really was, was a title and a little picture with a description.

Yea, but what you are not realizing is that you've been playing this system before, in TES. There are just no pre-made classes, you'll just have to pick the skill that you think make sense for a Theif, or a Warrior. If it helps to think of it this way, the pre-made classes are really just custom classes that the devs created based on what THEY thought would make sense for a Thief or a Warrior. Now instead, they're just making us think a little bit for ourselves. You always have the option to go back to a previous game and just pick all the same skills that would make whatever class you want to play anyways.

GOOD GOD! not another one

The game doesn't acknowledge the unique names I give to enchanted items or spell names etc. I still think its important and would be perturbed if it was removed though, same thing with classes. Its just a name, but for some role-players its important.

then name yourself "John the Theif" if they allow spaces and multiple words

read #35 and you'll see where i want the direction the class system: more impact on the world

thank you

Your quite welcome.



But see now the game will recognize us as the Archetypes we play as. The GI article stated that if we where to choose a more magic inclined route then another mage may come up and wish to dual. So if we play and a Fighter type then that mage will never come up to us. instead it may be some farm hands who need the bears out of the hen house or a shady figure offering underhanded deals to the more stealthy among us. Role playing our ROLE in this game. I do agree that is mainly a psychological need to have a niche to fit in but give us that niche.

do you guys think there will be a way to exploit the leveling system so you can eventually max out every skill by constantly raising your level and getting perks?

In what way? I don't get what you mean by make them more apparent.



Nah I have to disagree. I like to see the names for enchanted items too... because its something to keep track of and admire and I can't very well remember them all. You only have ONE class name, its not difficult to remember whatever you choose to call yourself, and in any case it doesn't say you can't choose a name for your custom class anyhow, you just wont have the option of using the pre-made classes.

If I recall correctly there is no "level cap" in Skyrim, but the higher your level the harder it becomes to gain skill increases. The skills you level the most will also always be easier to level than the ones you neglect. That means at high levels you will have to spend a LOT of time leveling skills if you want to change play styles.

I like it. This promotes playing a role/class/whatever while still allowing people to be a "jack of all trades" if they want. It also means that a jack of all trades will never be as good at skill as a specialist...which I think is a 100000000000x improvement over the only TES game I have played, Oblivion. People are going to scream "But I want to role play being able to do everything the best!" which is 11yr old slang for "I do not role-play". I may actually finish skyrim with this system, unlike Oblivion, instead of getting bored. This system will make my characters actually feel like they belong to classes instead of ending up masters of everything.

BTW, a system where you can be level 1 while being the master of 14 skills....[censored],

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In what way? I don't get what you mean by make them more apparent.


make it have an impact on the way you play, certain response from the world. the mages guild should be a little sceptic towards warrior who wanted to join: all in all small details who will make the class matter.

I'm not sure if you are saying this is a good or a bad thing. In my mind, this is an awesome idea. The game is acknowledging how we choose to play, not the arbitrary name we choose for yourselves. I feel 1000 times more like a mage if another mage attempts to duel me just because of my use of magic than if its because I happened to choose at the beginning of the game to be a "Mage." This gives us the chance to explore our roles so much more.

I imagine if there is it will get patched quickly since this new system is meant bypass the exploits from OB

i really hope they give you the option to label the soul of whoever you captured it from like in morrowind, imagine stealing a dragons soul, id be boltin down to the nearest enchant alter to cash that in for some godly equipment