Classic Music Or Modern Music?

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:59 pm

I think it's cool how fallout 4 been announced, and it's been being worked on for years and years, but when music comes down to it all. It's something so blank, but we see it coming, i remember watching so many videos about fallout 3 and fallout new vegas. The music is what i want to see updated just my general opinion. I liked the music in Fallout 3, but it did suit well with something of the things to come. What i want to see is both classic and modern music to be involved in this game. It fits for the year of the game is. I want to know what you think they chose for music? it can even be Boston music, one person i want to hear is Three Dog. I think this game music should be good.

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Stephy Beck
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:33 pm

If there is dubstep I will riot.

That being said, Bethesda woudl be veeery stupid to include any modern type music other than classic 40-60's.

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carley moss
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:49 pm

I think it would be cool if they used some modern retro jazz or something but honestly I'm fine with the old music.
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Amy Siebenhaar
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:17 am

How is this even a question? Fallout is all about the classic music. Anything post-1960 doesn't fit the setting.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:53 pm

See, what I wonder is how come no music past the 50's and 60's survived the Great War? Was no body producing new music past a certain point in the FO time line?
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:28 pm

Today's music is a poor fit for the Fallout Universe....that's putting it as mildly as I can. The music picked for both FO3 and NV was perfect for those games....the only real problem was that there wasn't enough of it. I would expect that the music in FO4 will be appropriate, given the song in the trailer.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:49 am

Classic fersher
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sara OMAR
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:50 pm

Nope.

I am just fine with The Music as it is. It strikes a perfect note with The in setting logic and lore. Changing it would devalue The entire game setting for me.
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Jaylene Brower
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:33 pm

Fallout 3 music was really boring and generic. I hope they'll do something better this time.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:36 pm

@TheCheshireKhajit: There has been music after the 50s of course, but because of the time divergence it's different from the music the was produced in the real universe.

They could of course feature 60s + music, but they'd have to record it themselves (hire someone). It would be the kind of music that 50s science fiction would have expected to evolve, slowly converting the classic style into a futuristic spacey style that has nothing in common with real world music (except being influenced by the 50s).

It's Imo something they shouldn't even try, as it'll just end up badly anyway. Something like Vera Keyes is ok (her style was her style, very unique) but music representative of the pre-war era (or post-war music for that matter, which would also be different) is something very difficult to masterfully achieve.

Let the 50s stay and let's play pretend that there's other music too.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:50 am

I have to disagree there. I find it a tad ridiculous that there is no other music than the 50's hits (as if all creativity died in the 50's) -- there isn't even classical music. I won't promote modern music, though. What it would need would be tailormade songs and tracks by someone who understands and knows how to put the 50's influence in them, but I don't know how feasible that would be. I'd tone down the use of radio songs for that reason.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:34 am


I agree, there is actually a growing movement of retro inspired bands who are making music in those styles, from everything to big band, jazz,swing,even some folky blue grass stuff (that might not really fit in with the Boston setting).
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:58 am

They caught lightning in a bottle with the past Fallout soundtracks. Introducing anything that's obviously more modern would not fit in the world they've created.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:45 pm

Of course there is classical music in the Fallout universe, we heard some in Fallout 3. What I mean when I say "no post-1960s songs" is post-1960 in OUR REAL WORLD. Of course music was created and played all the way up to 2077 in Fallout's universe - but we should take it as a matter of faith that the real 1950s songs we hear while playing are representative of the music in Fallout's world.

It would be super difficult for Bethesda to make new songs that fit the style of the 1950s and are as iconic and catchy as real songs that have survived for 75 years and are still popular. Another reason the real songs from 1950s work best is because the audience (the players) know those songs and it puts them in the mindset of the era.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:20 pm

Classic of course !!!!

It's part of the atmosphere and lore.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:12 pm

The prewar culture was one of nationalism. The US had a "Neo-futuristic 30'ies to 50'ies" culture. Mixing 50'ies furniture and architechture with Skrillex would scream to high heaven of dissonance.

There Are possibilities though.

IF you look at american and danish furniture and architechture (which was the style of the 50'ies) you could probably find some inspiration for alternate music.

I wouldnt much like it though. I wouldnt be inclined to go much beyond what you'd hear in "Rebel without a cause". Early , very early rock n roll, and only in fringe locations tops.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:56 pm

Sure, but it is a tad harder to take it that way when you actually constantly hear it, in multiple tracks and radios everywhere. It's how it is used. If it were subtle, something catchy here and there, faint echoes of the past, it would work (in my opinion). But when it is spammed with intention of spamming it, it's harder to take it as merely "representative".

And yes, I understood what you meant with "OUR REAL WORLD" part, but it comes to... see the upper part.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:07 pm

The biggest sacrilege would be changing the music type. It would totally change the atmosphere of the game.

Gritty, barren, "dry" flavored music with some oldies to top it off is the way to go.

Btw, is there any confirmation on who will be the composer?

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:41 am

Classic, please. The whole series derives itself from the 1950s understanding of how nuclear war/radiation would play out, as well as the 1950s pop culture. Let's keep the music circa 1940s-1960s.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:18 pm

Keep it as is, please. The classic music is what gives the game it's charm considering the game's 50s America culture

Alao, I hope Inon Zur is composing. Him or the original composer for F1 and 2. Inon was great in F3 though
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:27 pm

They can only take the music as far as what we thought future music would sound like in the 1950's. There was a lot of experimentation with orchestral and electronic music going on in the 50's. However, I don't think that most people would find that stuff enjoyable to listen to. Here's a good list of what you would expect to hear if they used that type of music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_-clf0aCzA%C2%A0? It's indicative of the culture that the PC was born into. I think it's a great disservice to the Fallout IP to try to retcon even the style of music available in the games. All for the sake of concept streamlining, to uncomplicate a rich and complex IP/ setting, for easy consumption.

Think about what it would mean to the people in Fallout... It would mean that for 200 years, no one could be a professional musician ~except as a cover band; and that the whole country ~generation after generation... after generation, would have all listened to the same couple hundred songs, for their entire life... stretching back for as far as anyone their can remember; (and Fallout has immortal ghouls that were alive and saw the golden age).

The kids of every generation seem to have this odd notion that they are the next and best thing to ever walk the Earth, and everything before them is lame and outdated... No one can seriously think that the kids in Fallout would abide listening to their great grandparent's musical favorites, for their entire life. There would be new music; might not have mass appeal, but it would not all be of the 1950's style. Though it would probably be a pop-50's idea of future music... That's not Elvis or Allan Sherman, that's whatever they imagined the teenagers in the year 2000 would be listening to, and that's certainly not Chuck Berry, or Roy Brown.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:50 am

The thing is we spend money to the game, bethesda makes profits, if they took the correct amount of money, they release patch with songs and other things, expansions must work the same way that will be good for us, a company who give customers what they deserve.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:36 pm

the choice of music in these games are partly what sets the mood and the character of this world

without all this 50 s music fallout wouldn t be fallout

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:52 pm

Fallout didn't have any 50's music in it. None.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:21 pm

Forgive my ignorance, but regarding the music you linked, is it diegetic? Does it exist in the universe of the game itself, with your player hearing it, or is it ambience that is only heard by the player, existing outside the world?

If it's the latter, I kind of think that's missing the point, because I think most of us are talking about diegetic music that the player would hear on their Pip-Boy, similar to pieces like "Big Iron" and "I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire" in previous games. I know I'm not advocating Elvis being played in a non-diegetic fashion, but I do think his music would be something that would be played by the likes of Three Dog or Mr. New Vegas, and presumably whatever other DJ we learn of in Boston.

If it is diegetic music, is it Old World or New World music? If it's the latter, then of course it isn't going to sound like the songs of the 50s. It's from a post-apocalyptic society that survived nuclear annihilation. The Great War completely changed the culture of the world and would obviously have an effect on their arts, music included.

Non-diegetic music, that is to say the soundtrack that plays when exploring the world, should reflect the atmosphere and tone of the post-Great War America. But tell me why the music being enjoyed and produced in 2076 wouldn't sound like stuff from the 50s, when the rest of the culture of Pre-Great War America is locked in that time, outside of blending what was then thought to be the way of the future? You say that the youth would be listening to whatever they thought the future music would sound like because they wouldn't want to embrace the stuff that came before them, such as their great grandparents music. But then why are they okay wearing the same fashion as their great grandparents? The music being the only thing that changed to reflect the 120 years between Fallout's aesthetics and the end of the world as they new it is more ridiculous than the culture being practically locked into the 50s.

And going back to something I said earlier, your complaints about some things are exactly why I said Bethesda should write some original songs, from both the Old World and the New World. It helps avoid licensing issues for one thing, and for another it makes it so that it wouldn't be a universe of only cover bands.

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