Cloaking - Next level newb tool? - discuss...

Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:07 am

After playing this game for several weeks almost everyday I can say I got a fair share of time to fully anolyze this game. My opinion is purely based on my experience playing online. the game graphics & menu Interface is top notch, game play dynamics seem almost perfect. The nanosuit Cloak mode is one of those elements that I believe are limiting this game potential to becoming a really great game. Sure playing single player was fun using cloak mode to sneak up on AI enemies. But when using this feature can be exploited in an multiplayer application it makes the game results very random. There is plenty of people out there that use camp tactics. Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.


what do you guys think?
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:51 pm

After playing this game for several weeks almost everyday I can say I got a fair share of time to fully anolyze this game. My opinion is purely based on my experience playing online. the game graphics & menu Interface is top notch, game play dynamics seem almost perfect. The nanosuit Cloak mode is one of those elements that I believe are limiting this game potential to becoming a really great game. Sure playing single player was fun using cloak mode to sneak up on AI enemies. But when using this feature can be exploited in an multiplayer application it makes the game results very random. There is plenty of people out there that use camp tactics. Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.


what do you guys think?

I think people use cloak too much... People should use armor mode more!
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:52 am

The problem, is
a) Armour mode isn't strong enough, only 35% bullet protection I think it was? and
b) Due to the high lethality you usually die before thinking of putting on armour mode
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:18 am

Also being a cloak ninja is awesome. It is just a different experience from the usual MP games, and I think it is fun. yes, it gets old being shot in the back by some cloaked muppet, but doing the shooting is great fun so....tradeoff.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:39 am

a) Armour mode isn't strong enough.
I agree, armor needs a buff.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:43 am

The problem is that you can't run in armor mode, you're as slow as a snail if you activate it. And when somebody shoot you in armor mode you die as fast as normal.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:38 pm

After playing this game for several weeks almost everyday I can say I got a fair share of time to fully anolyze this game. My opinion is purely based on my experience playing online. the game graphics & menu Interface is top notch, game play dynamics seem almost perfect. The nanosuit Cloak mode is one of those elements that I believe are limiting this game potential to becoming a really great game. Sure playing single player was fun using cloak mode to sneak up on AI enemies. But when using this feature can be exploited in an multiplayer application it makes the game results very random. There is plenty of people out there that use camp tactics. Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.


what do you guys think?

I think people use cloak too much... People should use armor mode more!



i try, but doesn't help when you get side-raqed by 3 cloaked monkeys
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Armor Enhance III
Visor Enhance III

You'll be running around with armor and nanovision activated, allowing you to spot him and being able to shoot first at a - most likely - unprotected target, while you're able to take those two extra bullets.

If you're getting "side-raqed by 3 cloaked monkeys", you did something wrong by not being aware of your surroundings enough.

Stop whining, start thinking.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:40 am

Armor Enhance III
Visor Enhance III

You'll be running around with armor and nanovision activated, allowing you to spot him and being able to shoot first at a - most likely - unprotected target, while you're able to take those two extra bullets.

If you're getting "side-raqed by 3 cloaked monkeys", you did something wrong by not being aware of your surroundings enough.

Stop whining, start thinking.

Bolded the part that is imperative. The people that are complaining about cloaking are usually bad players who can't use their eyes. As if, they have 100% transparency and they're deaf to the fat-feet every player has. It's fairly easy to see a cloaked person. It's even easier to hear them and deduct their location and direction. And it's EXTREMELY easy to MARK a cloaked person for a teammate or for yourself.

I'm still amazed how many players don't use the visor efficiently. Let alone at all. It's practically a wallhack if you're a good recon.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:03 pm

Armor Enhance III
Visor Enhance III

You'll be running around with armor and nanovision activated, allowing you to spot him and being able to shoot first at a - most likely - unprotected target, while you're able to take those two extra bullets.

If you're getting "side-raqed by 3 cloaked monkeys", you did something wrong by not being aware of your surroundings enough.

Stop whining, start thinking.
^This and start navigating through the map with shortcuts, only pussies use the stairs. ;)
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:33 pm


I think people use cloak too much... People should use armor mode more!


I think people should stop telling ppl what to use or how to play.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:59 pm

Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.

Using stealth technique and taking up strategic position is LAME!? Meh you just insulted every and each military and police sniper in the world. Better be more careful the next time you walk down the street or go near a window: someone may have a crosshair on your~
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:09 am


I think people use cloak too much... People should use armor mode more!


I think people should stop telling ppl what to use or how to play.
+100500
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:53 am

Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.

Using stealth technique and taking up strategic position is LAME!? Meh you just insulted every and each military and police sniper in the world. Better be more careful the next time you walk down the street or go near a window: someone may have a crosshair on your~
Also +100500 stealth technique is used over the world. In real life what do you prefer? Go ahead with bulletproof Kevlar and take bullet in your head. OR use stealth and strategy technique to survive and be unsighted, that takes your chance of survival from taking bullet from range, to 65-70%?

If your tactic is head attack then it's your choice. Other people not you, they have their choices, their opinion, and their mechanism of reaction.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:57 pm

cloak + expert camper + your lack of skill to detect them = you being trolled and repeatedly groin shot by them.

cloak + expert camper + someone else who's actually aware of their surroundings = campers being trolled and repeatedly shot at.

As many said already, cloak is only a problem if you want it to be a problem and if you do not want to learn how to use it and how to counter it. I can't go through all the tactics that can be used against cloaking folks again because in the end it all comes down to practice.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:33 am

Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.

Using stealth technique and taking up strategic position is LAME!? Meh you just insulted every and each military and police sniper in the world. Better be more careful the next time you walk down the street or go near a window: someone may have a crosshair on your~
Also +100500 stealth technique is used over the world. In real life what do you prefer? Go ahead with bulletproof Kevlar and take bullet in your head. OR use stealth and strategy technique to survive and be unsighted, that takes your chance of survival from taking bullet from range, to 65-70%?

If your tactic is head attack then it's your choice. Other people not you, they have their choices, their opinion, and their mechanism of reaction.
and also notice that in real life Kevlar only stops none FMJ pistol rounds and nothing else. and even the none FMJ pistol round, while won't go through the Kevlar, still have enough energe that will surely break you ribs if you get hit by one.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:08 am

and also notice that in real life Kevlar only stops none FMJ pistol rounds and nothing else. and even the none FMJ pistol round, while won't go through the Kevlar, still have enough energe that will surely break you ribs if you get hit by one.
That's what I meant. Head attack will be suicide. And we have only one life. So more lifesaving is stealth and strategy, but in some cases head attack can also help :X
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:51 am

Use nanovision and your problem with cloaked players its over.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:50 am

NANOVISION DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

It drains Energy, did you already forget? And I don't want to walk over the map, just because I'm paranoid. This issue is just a messed up balancing Crytek UK made. Recently, I played IA on Terminal: It was a DESASTER! 15/16 People were Cloaked all the time, shooting out of cloak right in your face, 2 were camping and one was spamming ltag. The game let's everyone win, even if it's the most unfair method on the earth.

Cloaking and only decloaking when shooting is definatly the most noobish playstyle in the game. End of discussion.

PS: Don't come over with "Use Cloak Tracker/[place other module here]", because most of you didn't even try those modules, BECAUSE YOU HAVE STEALTH ENHANCE IN EVERY FREAKING LOADOUT YOU MADE!

Try a match without cloak and count the times you got shot by people who got Energy Recharge, Stealth Enhance and Mobility Enhance and were in Cloak just before they shot. You will come to EVERYONE!
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:15 am

Armor Enhance III
Visor Enhance III

You'll be running around with armor and nanovision activated, allowing you to spot him and being able to shoot first at a - most likely - unprotected target, while you're able to take those two extra bullets.

If you're getting "side-raqed by 3 cloaked monkeys", you did something wrong by not being aware of your surroundings enough.

Stop whining, start thinking.
So you have to wait until you have 2 abilities at their max tier of skill before the game becomes playable? lulz.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:35 am

Cloak + expert camper = ub3r-lame.

Using stealth technique and taking up strategic position is LAME!? Meh you just insulted every and each military and police sniper in the world. Better be more careful the next time you walk down the street or go near a window: someone may have a crosshair on your~
Also +100500 stealth technique is used over the world. In real life what do you prefer? Go ahead with bulletproof Kevlar and take bullet in your head. OR use stealth and strategy technique to survive and be unsighted, that takes your chance of survival from taking bullet from range, to 65-70%?

If your tactic is head attack then it's your choice. Other people not you, they have their choices, their opinion, and their mechanism of reaction.

The OP was just stating his opinion of a video game bro, no point in bringing in your ex-marine stud past life into the game and threaten his life, jeez...
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:57 pm

cloak + expert camper + your lack of skill to detect them = you being trolled and repeatedly groin shot by them.

cloak + expert camper + someone else who's actually aware of their surroundings = campers being trolled and repeatedly shot at.

As many said already, cloak is only a problem if you want it to be a problem and if you do not want to learn how to use it and how to counter it. I can't go through all the tactics that can be used against cloaking folks again because in the end it all comes down to practice.
I find I use my cloak because its more useful as a first tier talent than armor mode is. Armor does so little if you're already being shot, you might as well just bend over. Armor needs to absorb 100% bullet damage like it did in Crysis Wars/Warhead. Alternatives could also see base health being increased or damage from all sources (except for grenades) being reduced.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:12 am

NANOVISION DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!
Lol, you're saying that one tool meant to be used as a counter against cloak isn't the solution since it drains energy? wat

So you have to wait until you have 2 abilities at their max tier of skill before the game becomes playable? lulz.
Nope.
But if you lack the skill to spot cloaked enemies or whine about not being able to reasonably (read: energy-efficiently) use nanovision, that setup's made for you.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:07 am

NANOVISION DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!
Lol, you're saying that one tool meant to be used as a counter against cloak isn't the solution since it drains energy? wat

So you have to wait until you have 2 abilities at their max tier of skill before the game becomes playable? lulz.
Nope.
But if you lack the skill to spot cloaked enemies or whine about not being able to reasonably (read: energy-efficiently) use nanovision, that setup's made for you.
I don't have a problem with cloakers, but your only solution to other people's problem with it is get 2 perks to max rank. My problem is armor is freaking useless so it practically forces people into the cloak because its more useful.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:31 pm

I adamantly believe that Cloak is NOT a 'newb' tool, if it wasn't a huge problem in Crysis and Warhead it shouldn't be a problem now.
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