You're the one who is making it into a whinefest. Really, if you don't like a thread, stay out of it or make a report, if the moderators feel it's a bad thread, actions will be taken.

As far as game forums go, it's a good thing to follow the "if you don't have anything nice to say, keep your mouth shut" mantra. Unless it's constructive critisism towards the game, of course

I normally avoid moderators like the plague but I can certainly see how Wraith has gotten tired of beta discussion.

(Yes I know most are locked and/or old but I didn't even have to look 30 seconds to find most of these and they probably all have the exact same posts)

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1104405-is-there-going-to-be-a-brink-multiplayer-beta/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1105647-any-kind-of-beta-comming-out/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102578-brink-beta/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1108933-beta/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1109635-beta/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1110557-beta-poll/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1110848-is-there-a-beta/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1094927-will-there-be-a-beta-test/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1098380-beta-sign-up/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1098324-beta/

we like threads like this, but not if there are so many, and if the same opinions are being made again and again.
that gets boring, and it get's annoying if we're having to post the same arguments as to why it wouldn't be a good idea too

I can certainly see that point of view

But I still think it's a better idea to ignore a thread one find annoying, rather than bumping it up to the top. See, if noone had replied to this thread, it wouldn't be on the top of the first page any longer, or at the first page at all.

I'm sure there would be a catch...



So simply do not post in it....



Thankyou. This is great advise.

Well back on topic, They most probably have enough family testing to do the job, but it would probably work out better if they had more, that is all I'm saying.. Also this thred is not about beta so much but more about a closed beta, due to the mass market for per-ordering they could do a closed beta also.. That would help sales and finish the game faster and better, IMO. Though i could very well be wrong that's why i posted it, for feed back.

Try to think of it like this, I'd rather have 20 in-house testers who are playing the game for one reason and one reason only, to find bugs, than a million people who are just going to play for half an hour, find a bug and dismiss the game because it's "broken".

I'm from Australia so when he said Spring 2011 that makes it sound as if it's over a year away... then i realized it was Spring in the UK so it's a lot closer lol xD

Well Freddo and blkcat this is certainly a battle that has no purpose so discuss away and I will go off and talk about something else.

Bagnol thanks for the support.

Or and I report threads all the time, someone needs to help clean up around here. :wink_smile: (its a joke for all you humor deprived people)

PS I was not whining. This kinds of thread will keep popping up and there's nothing besides reporting it to the mods. I really don't care,

Isn't there a forum rule to not repeat similar threads?

I can understand that once the forum conatins heaps of pages it will be difficult to check up on... but when theer is barely any pages like there is atm, then there isn't really an excuse to post similar threads.
Especially when you see 2 or 3 beta? named threads on the same page...

Ofcourse i would like that open is also good for me but still

I think all pre-orders and mailing list subscribers should get to play. (may be a closed beta idk...)

I think a closed beta could work if it was kept very small, that is no more than a few dozen people. Large betas are great if you need to balance something or test your servers but neither of these are really issues for Brink. If Splash Damage and Bethesda were interested in general impressions and bugs a smaller group would be far more organized and likely far more constructive.

i'm gonna go with hungry donner on this one.
get's hectic if you need to read all those bug reports.
and complaints of players who are trying to just play the game but see a lot of bugs and instead of reporting those, just complain that "the game isn't playable due to all the bugs"(i got this situation from another person on the forum, who will now probably be mad cuz i'm not pinning the credit to his name, but hey, my memory is as leak as it can get :celebration: )

hmmm, lets get something straight, "Brink" is in closed testing, we aren't invited
you aren't entitled to anything but the game for pre-ordering, you aren't entitled to anything but possibly dubious information and a chance to yak when you join a forum. I'd rather have a smaller group of professionals test a game I want rather than a bunch of egos with keyboards. The only "beta" I could see is one to test server capabilities, and as that only affects PC users, not likely to be open

I see where your coming from about per-orders getting closed beta that's a silly idea... But i still think that a very limited closed beta could be needed, I'm from AUS also so i would like to see how the game runs with lag.. Playing this game with 200 + ping would not be fun for me but i would still try get beta cause all I'm looking for it to help the game. Also how are they stopping hackers? This is another thing they would need to test but i suppose you can do that with family testing.

PCs have dedicated servers, no need for 200+ pings

All games need it, although the developers can handle such things in-house if it comes to smaller scale battles. MMO's need larger scale testing a whole lot more.

Yes I'd like to get in, but that is like 90% + other people, to get a taste of the game earlier.

Maybe they could test a select few people in Australia and other countries etc. just to see how it runs on different global servers. I would also like to help the developers polish off their game a bit by pointing out glictehs or other issues which may be present.

With the whole hacking thing, thats a really good point. They havent actually pointed out their method to prevent hackers yet. Although there is still several months before it's released so they might be dealing with that later on.

the longer they wait with announcing what way they'll prevent it, the longer it'll take hackers to find out how to hack it

lol I'm with you :mohawk: .

anti cheat is handled by Valve Anti Cheat, as there are no "ranked" servers anyone can run a dedicated server for PC, if the game is popular servers should be available locally no matter where you live. Between Splash Damage and Bethesda, they have a fairly large in-house testing group, with several more being hired recently. No need for "open beta"

This is the information that there is regarding a beta, nothing has changed but if it does you will be informed.

For me a closed beta would be cool because I have been beta testing games, testing maps and game play, for a few years now. So when I see all this movement I am like awesome, but wait what about clipping? you might say that we will be able to do all this stuff but if I can stand in the air or start to get stopped by invisible objects then what is the movement for? And with SMART are there places in the maps that you can not use the SMART like you fall off a map. Or you get stuck somewhere. That would kill me even wanting to play this game.

well if Bethesda decides to go ahead with beta here's the model that I like.

Write a benchmark that accepts a pre-registered login; preferably this forum or whatever social outlet marketing advertises on.

Have the benchmark test the user's system to make sure it meets certain minimum system requirements.
After that choose those users with desired hardware/performance stats then cross reference with level of participation in forums and other social outlets.

This way you are getting the game tested on hardware that you want it tested on as well as rewarding those individuals who have truly expressed an interest in the game.

Added bonus will be the potentially ludicrous amounts of buzz this could generate.

Just my two cents; feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.

We are all hoping maybe they will listen to you