Precisely :tongue:.

I liked the clutter launcher in Fallout 3, maybe they can make a spell that uses clutter as ammo and just launches it from your inventory

While I agree on that somewhat, I have to say that the way clutter had been handled back in Oblivion had little to do with making anything seem more real. You found the stuff in the most ridiculous places and mixes. I mean, a whole room with crates and you find one pair of scissors, a sweetroll and one other random object ... probably a broom that doesn't even fit into the crate? I'd find a message like "you don't find anything other than clutter" or something similar much more immersive than a bunch of actual clutter not making sense. It would also add much more to the realism would we actually see the NPCs use the stuff, like brooming the house or eating using the cutlery. And so on.

In addition, it can actually dampen the feeling of realism if there is too much useless and pointless crap, especially if this includes such one would naturally feel to make sense being able to use it.

When we find "resources" like fabric, bullions and gems, it'd be awesome if there were craftsman talents that allow us to make clothes or jewelry out of it.

Clutter FTW. @crazyjeffy707: A rock-it-launcher spell? :vaultboy:

teleconesis that let you throw forks and pewter bowls into ememys as a attack. not too much because if it overpowers the bow than its not worth it to have in the game.

I would like to be able to pick up a broom and sweep... or stab a bandit in the eye with a fork... or make graffiti with a paintbrush instead of using one to reach places I would never be able to reach normally........

I hope so. I hate finding useless crap in chests.

enchant a pitcher to give endless wine

Spent a wee bit of time thinking about clutter and looking around our house. Some of the "useless" clutter that would be nice to have are decorative knick knacks. For example, we have figurine Santas (my neice luvs Sanata), so why not little figurines of your favorite god, Talos, Dibella or famous peoples like Alessia. Crystal balls could be remeshed to "snowglobes" for Skyrim and used as paperweights on desks. Additionally, there are many knick knacks of the nature kind; a deer with a bright red cardinal sitting on its antler, a mother and her ducklings swimming on a pond (in this case a little mirror). So although some think clutter is just clutter I think that this kind of clutter would be very useful for those of us addicted to decorating our abodes!! :tes:

Gems actually completely slipped my mind, you're right that would be pretty cool. Much more interesting than just selling a diamond for like 50 septims... seriously, they should be worth more than that.


A dwemer snowglobe item would be a pretty funny easter egg if they put that in. There was an OB mod that I enjoyed which added figurines like the ones you described, and another (more of a joke) that added action figures to that game; like in cases and stuff, they were pretty amazing... kind of makes me want to put the disc in and play just thinking about those old things.

Thanks for your posts, good sirs. I like your ideas.

I am collecting quills in Nehrim. Every time I meet a man I ransack his house in search of quills. :wub:

I haven't played this... do the quills do something or do you also have a passion for clutter, namely quills?

ok sure

I started a thread for this a couple months back

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1195365-all-items-should-have-a-purpose/page__p__17765734__fromsearch__1#entry17765734

These were examples I gave in the topic

- Hourglass for example didn't do anything and was worth 0 gold, surly this time they could give it a use for example helping to make potions with alchemy.
- Shovels should be used for being able to dig for treasure or digging up graves (necromancy)
- Cloth for making clothing (hopefully a part of blacksmithing)
- Rake, Scythe, Hoe etc (for the farming supposedly in Skyrim)
- Skull and bones (used in alchemical formulas and necromany)
- Tongs (for repairing armor - could be used with repair hammers to have more effect, also involved in blacksmithing)
- Quill/Inkwell (for writting notes in your in game diary - I know there's not but there should be one by which you can remind yourself of anything you have to go back and do finish looting a dungeon for example, that you couldn't do previously because you reached your encumbrance limit, or places that you find certain ingrediants etc)
- Boquet of flowers (improving the disposition of a female character towards you if for example you need information or as a gift for your wife)
- Vase (used for decorating your house if you choose to buy one)
...... There are loads more besides these, I have just given examples

Forkbrand sounds good

Just collecting. I never used to collect anything before, but I read about some people collecting spoons and crap here on the forum. It's a fun diversion.

I would have collected spoons, but wooden spoons sink in Oblivion. The aim is to collect all the quills, then drop them singly into a public pool to make a carpet of feathers, like what I did in this screenshot for all the useless handbills and scrolls and clothing I found on my break-ins: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577801827088186641/7EAE392397A2B4D509CFE250530C2DF08BFFD8C3/

Must have missed this one... *cough* too lazy to use the search *cough*

Good stuff though, thanks for linkage. I wouldn't mind having that Zelda style shovel you mentioned there...

Lol

I should add that Nehrim has a lot of these features. Shovels are used to loot burial mounds. Pickaxes are used to mine ore. Smelting tongs, a forge and bellows, and coal are used to smelt ore into ingots. Hammers, forging tongs and an anvil are used to craft weapons (although the crafting system is unfinished). I can't imagine why, since Beth is doing crafting, they would leave that kind of thing out, so it's probably a good bet that it will be in Skyrim too.

Yes, my cunning lettuce and yarn activated sporking trap of death!!

*Cough but in all seriousness, it would be nice to make traps (Bioshock did this rather well I thought) or just to make actual ornaments. But I like previous ideas of melting things down and making it in weapons etc. or what I would like to do is if you have gems rather than just selling them, maybe being able to enchant them the set them into rings etc. (a ring you may have made out of a melted silver urn), that would be nice.

I used to rob silverware as it was everywhere in the castles of the towns in OB and it made meeting the fences requirements quite easy, but you don't want to use all the clutter like in FONV where literally any crap could be used so you end up carrying [censored]e everywhere you go and then when you finally collect all the right crap you get an item which was worthless anyway. But smelting down a load of collected silver forks etc would be great then just pay someone to forge a silver weapons for ghosts etc.