Well it seems that I am getting crashes also right at exit of tutorial dungeon. or rather race Menu.. Ran all the way through started dungeon fine with Golden Saint..once I got to exit, made a small skintone change. I exit the Race Menu and it crashes to desktop.

I thought UOP already had Custom Race Fix or COBL Races had it intergrated?

load order and bashed patched results..So that you see that I am really not using that much, I have tried moving cobl races up and down in load order has not helped..

Any Suggestions?

Bashed Patch, 0.esp?  Overview?  Import Cells?  Import Inventory?  Race Records?  Leveled Lists Overview Date/Time?  3/21/2009 5:15:52 PM  Active Mods?  00 Oblivion.esm ?  01 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.3.3] ?  02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.67] ?  03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] ?  04 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.2.2] ?  05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] ?  06 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?  07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] ?  08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?  09 DLCHorseArmor.esp ?  0A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  0B DLCOrrery.esp ?  0C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  0D DLCFrostcrag.esp ?  0E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  0F DLCVileLair.esp ?  10 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  11 DLCSpellTomes.esp ?  12 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  13 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ?  14 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  15 DLCThievesDen.esp ?  16 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  17 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  18 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp ?  19 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  1A Knights.esp ?  1B Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ?  1C diversegrasses.esp ?  1D VibrantSpecularTextures.esp ?  1E ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  1F ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.05] ?  20 ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  21 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  22 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  23 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  24 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  25 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  26 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  27 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  28 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  29 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2A Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2B Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2E Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  2F Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  30 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?  31 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp ?  32 EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3] ?  33 EnhancedWeather - SI.esp [Version 1.3] ?  34 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.63] ?  35 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ?  36 TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c] ?  37 TamrielTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] ?  38 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] ?  39 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c] ?  ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.71] ?  ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.71]  Import CellsSource Mods?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp ?  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp ?  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp ?  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  Cells Patched?  Oblivion.esm: 13  Import InventorySource Mods?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp ?  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp ?  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp  Inventories Changed: 665?  Oblivion.esm: 23 ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm: 422 ?  TamrielTravellers.esm: 9 ?  DLCThievesDen.esp: 12 ?  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp: 17 ?  Knights.esp: 54 ?  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp: 5 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp: 123  Race RecordsSource Mods?  Cobl Races.esp  Merged   None  Eyes/Hair Sorted?  Argonian ?  Breton ?  DarkElf ?  HighElf ?  Imperial ?  Khajiit ?  Nord ?  Orc ?  Redguard ?  WoodElf ?  cobRaceAureal ?  cobRaceHiddenElf ?  cobRaceMazken ?  cobRaceOhmes ?  cobRaceXivilai  Eye Meshes Filtered   None  Eyes/Hair Assigned for NPCs?  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp: 11 ?  DLCFrostcrag.esp: 1 ?  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp: 19 ?  DLCSpellTomes.esp: 1 ?  DLCThievesDen.esp: 6 ?  DLCVileLair.esp: 3 ?  Knights.esp: 12 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp: 673 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp: 311 ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm: 255 ?  Oblivion.esm: 454  Leveled Lists Delevelers/Relevelers?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  DLCSpellTomes.esp [AR] ?  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR] ?  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR] ?  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR] ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [ADR] ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [ADR] ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR]  Merged Creature Lists?  AMMForesters ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurers ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurersArgonianMultiple ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurersArgonianSingle ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurersKhajiitSingle ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurersOrcSingle ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCAdventurersOther ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCBarbarian ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCReaversGroup ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  AMMNPCSmuggler ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp ?  NDLL1UmarilRealLvl100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp ?  NDLL1UmarilSpiritLvl100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  Merged Item Lists?  AdventurerWarriorBoots ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  AdventurerWarriorCuirass ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  AdventurerWarriorGreaves ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  AdventurerWarriorHelm ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  AdventurerWarriorShield ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esm ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  Mart's Monster Mod.esp [ADR] ?  DL9ChampAxeList ?  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [AR] ?  LL0CrArmorSkeletonGuardianShield100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrArmorSkeletonShield100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapGoblin3Berserker100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapGoblin4Shaman100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapGoblin5Warlord100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapMinotaur100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapMinotaurLord100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapSkeleton4Champion100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0CrWeapSkeletonArcherBow100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0FoodLowerClass75 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  LL0FoodMiddleClass100 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  LL0FoodMiddleClass75 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  LL0FoodUpperClass100 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  LL0FoodUpperClass75 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  LL0GoldLeveled10 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0GoldLeveled100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0GoldLeveled25 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0GoldLeveled50 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0GoldLeveled75 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0Loot04Gold100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0Loot20Gold100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGems10 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGems100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGems25 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGems50 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGems75A ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGoldSilverNuggets10 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGoldSilverNuggets100 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGoldSilverNuggets25 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGoldSilverNuggets50 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootGoldSilverNuggets75 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootMicroTreasure15 ?  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic1Iron100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic2Steel100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic3Silver100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic4Dwarven100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic5Elven100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic6Glass100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic7Ebony100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0LootWeapon0Magic8Daedric100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyBoots100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyBoots25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyBoots50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyBootsLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyBootsLvl50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyCuirass100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyCuirassLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGauntlet100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGauntlet25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGauntlet50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGauntletLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGauntletLvl50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGreaves100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGreaves25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGreaves50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyGreavesLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyHelmet100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyHelmet50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyHelmetLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorHeavyShieldLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightBoots100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightBoots25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightBoots50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightBootsLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightBootsLvl25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightCuirass100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightCuirass25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightCuirassLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGauntlets100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGauntlets25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGauntlets50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGauntletsLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGauntletsLvl25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGreaves100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGreaves25 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGreaves50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightGreavesLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightHelmet100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightHelmetLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightShield100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightShield50 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCArmorLightShieldLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicBattleaxe100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicBattleaxeLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicBow100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicBowLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicClaymore100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicClaymoreLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicDagger100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicDaggerLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicLongsword100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicLongswordLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicMace100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicMaceLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicShortsword100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicShortswordLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicWaraxe100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicWaraxeLvl100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicWarhammer100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeapon0MagicWarhammerLvl100 ?  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR] ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponBattleaxe100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponBattleaxeLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponBow100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponBowLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponClaymore100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponClaymoreLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponDagger100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponLongsword100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponLongswordLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponMace100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponMaceLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponShortsword100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponShortswordLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponWaraxe100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponWaraxeLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponWarhammer100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL0NPCWeaponWarhammerLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1LootStaff0Lesser100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1LootStaff1Normal100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1LootStaff2Greater100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff0Lesser100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff0LesserLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff1Normal100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff1NormalLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff2Greater100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff2GreaterLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCStaff4CombatOnlyLvl100 ?  ArmamentariumLL.esp ?  LL1NPCWeaponArrow100 ?  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ?  LL2NPCPotionsMagic25 ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  MMPRoamingTraderArrow100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderBattleaxe100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderBow100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderClaymore100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderDagger100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyBoots100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyCuirass100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyGauntlet100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyGreaves100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyHelmet100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderHeavyShield100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightBoots100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightCuirass100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightGauntlets100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightGreaves100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightHelmet100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLightShield100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderLongsword100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderMace100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderShortsword100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderWaraxe100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  MMPRoamingTraderWarhammer100 ?  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [ADR] ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  VendorAmmo ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorArmorLightBoots ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorArmorLightCuirass ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorArmorLightGauntlets ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorArmorLightGreaves ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorArmorLightHelm ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorIngredientsFood ?  Cobl Glue.esp ?  Item interchange - Placement.esp [ADR] ?  VendorWeaponBlade ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorWeaponBlunt ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  VendorWeaponBow ?  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ?  cobViWeapEnchSteelLongsword ?  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  Empty Creature Sublists?  LL0Explorer ?  LL0Swashbuckler  Empty Creature Sublists Removed?  LL1Adventurer  Empty Item Sublists?  cobViAlchDoubleCream ?  cobViAlchSheepsMilk ?  cobViIngrBassMeat ?  cobViIngrBirchConk ?  cobViIngrBlueberry ?  cobViIngrBoarTusks ?  cobViIngrBreadSlice ?  cobViIngrCabbage ?  cobViIngrCantaloupe ?  cobViIngrCarpMeat ?  cobViIngrCatFur ?  cobViIngrCatMeat ?  cobViIngrCatWhiskers ?  cobViIngrCheeseChorrolDbleCream ?  cobViIngrCheeseGottlesfontBlue ?  cobViIngrCheeseSkingradAgedRed ?  cobViIngrCheeseSkingradRed ?  cobViIngrClamMeat ?  cobViIngrCloverHoney ?  cobViIngrCucumber ?  cobViIngrDeerHeart ?  cobViIngrDeerTeeth ?  cobViIngrDeerTestes ?  cobViIngrDriedFish ?  cobViIngrEelFlesh ?  cobViIngrEggPlant ?  cobViIngrElderScampSkin ?  cobViIngrFireWolfMeat ?  cobViIngrFlaxBread ?  cobViIngrFrostGiantHeart ?  cobViIngrFrostImpGall ?  cobViIngrFrostTitanHorn ?  cobViIngrGoatHorn ?  cobViIngrGraqeFruit ?  cobViIngrGreaterClannfearClaws ?  cobViIngrGreaterDaedrothTeeth ?  cobViIngrGreaterDreughWax ?  cobViIngrGreenTomato ?  cobViIngrHeartRot ?  cobViIngrHerringFillet ?  cobViIngrHorseHeart ?  cobViIngrHungerSkin ?  cobViIngrIceWolfMeat ?  cobViIngrImpGallCrazed ?  cobViIngrImpGallMystic ?  cobViIngrKnightSpines ?  cobViIngrLilyoftheValleyNectar ?  cobViIngrmango ?  cobViIngrMinnowFin ?  cobViIngrMinotaurEyeballJuice ?  cobViIngrMinotaurSpleen ?  cobViIngrMinotaurTitanHorn ?  cobViIngrOgreBoneMarrow ?  cobViIngrOgreSkin ?  cobViIngrPeach ?  cobViIngrPepper ?  cobViIngrPerchScales ?  cobViIngrPikeScales ?  cobViIngrPineCanker ?  cobViIngrPitcherPlantIngr ?  cobViIngrRamHorn ?  cobViIngrRustGill ?  cobViIngrSalmonMeat ?  cobViIngrSaltedMeat ?  cobViIngrSilverLeaf ?  cobViIngrSmokedMeat ?  cobViIngrSnowLeopardMeat ?  cobViIngrSnowLionMeat ?  cobViIngrSnowWolfMeat ?  cobViIngrSprout ?  cobViIngrSquash ?  cobViIngrSunflowerSeeds ?  cobViIngrTangerine ?  cobViIngrTrollBoneMarrow ?  cobViIngrTrollSinew ?  cobViIngrWargWolfMeat ?  cobViLootAyleidClutter100 ?  cobViLootAyleidClutter100Lvl ?  cobViLootRuneSkulls100 ?  cobViLootTorch25 ?  cobViRescGolemHearts ?  cobViRescHouseHlaaluWine ?  cobViRescHouseRedoranWine ?  cobViRescHouseTelvanniWine ?  cobViRescQConMoldyStuff ?  LL0LootArrow3SilverAbsorbMagic75  Empty Item Sublists Removed?  AAGoblinCookLoot ?  AAGoblinShamanLoot ?  cobViLootDeerIngredients ?  cobViLootHorseDrop ?  cobViLootHungerDrop ?  cobViLootLL0Ingredients4RareMonster100 ?  cobViLootLL0LootIngredientMythic100 ?  cobViLootSnowLeopardMeat ?  cobViLootSnowLionMeat ?  cobViLRcrMsixoticWares ?  cobViVendMMPRoamingTraderAlcohol ?  cobViVendMMPRoamingTraderFlora ?  cobViVendMMPRoamingTraderFood ?  LL0FoodLowerClass100 ?  LL0FoodLowerClass75 ?  LL0FoodLowerClassSame75 ?  LL0FoodMiddleClass100 ?  LL0FoodMiddleClass75 ?  LL0FoodMiddleClassSame75 ?  LL0FoodUpperClass100 ?  LL0FoodUpperClass75 ?  LL0FoodUpperClassSame75 ?  LL0Ingredients0Food100 ?  LL0Ingredients0Food25 ?  LL0Ingredients0Food50 ?  LL0Ingredients0Food75 ?  LL0Ingredients0FoodSame75 ?  LL0Ingredients1Common100 ?  LL0Ingredients1Common25 ?  LL0Ingredients1Common50 ?  LL0Ingredients1Common75 ?  LL0Ingredients1CommonSame75 ?  LL0Ingredients2Uncommon100 ?  LL0Ingredients2Uncommon25 ?  LL0Ingredients2Uncommon50 ?  LL0Ingredients2Uncommon75 ?  LL0Ingredients2UncommonSame75 ?  LL0Ingredients4RareMonster10 ?  LL0Ingredients4RareMonster100 ?  LL0Ingredients4RareMonster25 ?  LL0Ingredients4RareMonster50 ?  LL0Ingredients4RareMonster75 ?  LL0LootIngredientConjurer10 ?  LL0LootIngredientConjurer100 ?  LL0LootIngredientConjurerDEL ?  LL0LootIngredientMythic25 ?  LL0LootIngredientNecromancer10 ?  LL0LootIngredientOblivion10 ?  LL0LootIngredientOblivion25 ?  LL1LootArrow0Magic10 ?  LL1LootArrow0Magic100 ?  LL1LootArrow0Magic25 ?  LL1LootArrow0Magic50 ?  LL1LootArrow0Magic75 ?  LL1NPCArrowMagic100 ?  MMPRoamingTraderAlcohol ?  MMPRoamingTraderClutter ?  MMPRoamingTraderFlora ?  MMPRoamingTraderFood ?  MMPRoamingTraderSoulGem ?  VendorIngredientsCreature ?  VendorIngredientsFlora ?  VendorIngredientsFood ?  VendorIngredientsFoodNoAlcohol 

I've never had a problem with this plugin yet, and have hacked it to work for slof's robes, and added other body mods to it.

If you're bash patching, then it might be better to load Cobl Races.esp relatively early and use the Races component of the bashed patch. However, cobl races balanced really should load just before the patch.

MMM Friendlier Factions for MMM+Frans.esp yes it is fine ..Is is used for both MMM and MMMforFrans.esp..with Frans you do not use his creatures so you do not use his faction's you use MMM instead..

Item Interchange - I have it dated so that is always the last loaded mod before bashed patched..but moved it up in load order..before cobl..



Thanks Wrye,

I moved CoblRace.esp down in load order and rebuild bashed patched moved II up above, moved all cobl stuff to last before bashed patched and ran from autosave it working now..

Not sure why it wants to be this way since nothing is changing any races..uop / mmm is adding new races and eyes, but not playable..travellers, etc..only cobl races..

II Extraction should load very early.
II Placement should load very late.
This is covered in the manual.

I couldn't help noticing the COBL Races balanced gives me huge weakness to fire, poison, frost and shock... in fact to everything.
What is even worse is that all bloody vampires have no problem detecting me even if I use invisibility + cheat ring...

It is much more realistic, true. But more painful. And more shameful.
Thank you, COBL team. Can you reduce the disadvantage to my poor Breton girl next time?

Thanks everyone contributing their work for this great mod! :trophy:
Is cobl races balanced adding retroactive health gain?

Balanced Races is pretty much a "lite" version of http://theelderscrolls.info/?go=9XReadMeBalancingProject#4. And that's about as much as I know. bg2408 is the author of that portion of Cobl.

Retroactive Health Gain: I recently added my own (OBSE based) version to Wrye Leveling. AFAIK, there's a difficulty with doing a non-obse version in that it's difficult to know what the players starting endurance is, which is necessary to creating a true retroactive health. (See http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=853553&view=findpost&p=14006426.) For my version, I'd want to see it in practice a bit more -- I'm not sure that it's doing the right thing in response to damage/drain effects (or mayb it was working right, but it was a gradual drain, hmmm). I haven't looked at what bg2408 did.

So it's a possible future addition to Cobl.

Does any kind of gender check take place before NPC's are assigned their hairstyles? If so, it's not working quite right.

Tolgan, Countess Narina Carvain's herald and Hamlof Red-Tooth of Red Diamond Jewelry in the Imperial City both have such long, beautiful, flowing hair... that looks totally out of place on their male skulls. Especially Hamlof, it looks completely ridiculous in a funny way. I can't take his cantankerous nature seriously anymore though.

Other than that I'm liking the changes. I walked into A Fighting Chance and Rohssan looked :hubbahubba: compared to her old self. Everyone looks different, cool stuff!

Hey, Wrye, I was wondering if you could add this race to this mod http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22429. Then maybe it would be more compatible with wrye morph. I posted in the thread about wrye morph and I was having a problem with shape shifting using that race. I think it would compliment this mod quiet well. She's a Daedra and she can fly.

Hi,
I had the same crash as Corepc when re-opening the race menu at the end of the dungeons. Thanks for explaining how to fix it and for the mod itself! I am playing a stealth dark elf and enjoy the changes.

First off - I really don't want to get my fingers bitten off by either of the gods of Oblivion modding! Please don't eat me!

Secondly, I've been using BP for a very, very long time.

Since this new Wrye BAIN thing came out, I was playing with it, and it's soooo much easier to change an existing install around than OBMM ever was and I went "Lets try something new."

I love it, especially the Ohmes Raht. But first I went "Wait, why's the Tabaxi renamed?" This led me to UESP, where I learned lots about Khajiit - Why is it we only have one of the morphologies!? Ahhh! Now that I know this, we need more Khajiiti around.

Then I found a new version of Tabaxi with new fur colors.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to rename them to Ohmes-Raht to fit in with the rest of the Cobl races. (They patched in just fine, too!) Edited: Wow, a paralyzed hippo really can do this! I'd wave and grin, but I can't.

Pretty soon, I'm going to run out of mods to add and I'll start playing, but you guys made me laugh, find new information, and finally decide on what my next real character was going to be like: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ahzirr_Traajijazeri

Great mod. Great inspiration. Thank you. I'm about to let beautiful people go away. Ohmes-Raht beat Ainmhi hands down, especially because I've never really liked playing something I didn't think was lore correct. (My knowledge of lore, it could fit in a thimble.)


You guys are awesome.

bg, it looks like you've been getting a lot of flak lately - however, in the past, you've given me really good answers and helped me out a lot - I know you don't remember, it was ages ago - But thanks again.

Ok well i originally posted this question at http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=991307&st=40 and was told to post it here so here is the problem im having in its entirety.

~Wasn't sure if this is where to you request help with a problem related to the mod for oblivion named cobl(common oblivion) however i could not find any other topics that seemed close~
The problem im having is i have everything installed correctly i previously had beautiful people mod installed and removed before installing cobl. once i installed cobl and installed the high res cosmetics i should of been fine. Everything ran fine no problem but then while playing i noticed that any character with vanilla eyes(from original oblivion) would show up as just empty black voids where the eyes are. So i tried a few things even installing the previous eyes(beautiful people eyes) which didn't fix this problem i was wondering if there was something i should do to fix this problem.(Note: this problem only occurs with vanilla eyes and there is no problem with the custom eyes that come with the mod).

*Edit* I thought maybe if i posted my plugin list it would help(Note: this is the exact load order and cobl was installed last of all)
Oblivion.esm
CM Partners.esm
AWS-Core.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
CM Partners.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
BetterCoins.esp
Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp
ExnemEyeCandy.esp
Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Martigen's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
PHVanillaEyesAddon.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Vexend Race.esp
ZEE-Darker Dungeons.esp
1AzuSeraphimSet.esp
AmuletOfTheDivineVampire.esp
AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp
AW_Wings.esp
Banes DB Mask Placer True.esp
Classic-Wizard-Robes-UL.esp
DBShadowSet_NE.esp
Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp
Elegant Vests.esp
ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp
ExnemEC_Warrior01.esp
Hentai Compilation.esp
Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
Angeleron.esp
Arch-Angel.esp
Assassin_Blade.esp
BleachOverhaul.esp
bustersword.esp
ExnemZorlackArmory.esp
FujikujakuBETA.esp
keyoblivion.esp
M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp
M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp
WabisukeBETA.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
AWS-Storms & Sound SI.esp
BShadySam [Map Marker Only].esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
Poisoned Apple Fix.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp
Kobu's Jack-of-All-Trades Mod.esp
Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
Kobu's Skip Intro Mod.esp
Unarmored skill.esp
ZEE-movablebodies.esp
ZEE-No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp
cidnothump.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
CurseOfHircine.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Extended Chorrol Open Cities.esp
Extended Skingrad Open Cities Complete.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
ZEE_darker_nights_2_with_burning_kvatch.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
V&B Vampires and Bandits.esp
V&B-OOO.esp
Bow Damage Balanced.esp
Emu's Marksman Enhanced - Modified Arrow Physic.esp
Emu's Marksman Enhanced - Modified Perk Sneak Attack.esp
Krystina's Adjusted IngredWeight.esp
Krystina's MiscTweaks.esp
M.O.E. - New Classes.esp
M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp
poisonmushrooms.esp
ZEE-retroactive health.esp
abotTempusFugit.esp
Marksman Velocity.esp
Marksman Velocity SI.esp
ZEE-BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp
M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp
M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp
M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp
ZEE-Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Shadow's Merged Value Fixesv1.2.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
AsharasCMBeasts.esp
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
CM Partners NPC NE.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
Crowded Cities 15.esp
Crowded Roads Advanced.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Knights.esp
M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp
M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp
M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp
OCC-OOO-Patch.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities LR Road Record.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp

*Re-Edit* I ran a conflict detector test to see if some other mod might be conflicting with the eyes of the mod and found the only conflicts were the ones that looked fine
The image is here of this test [img]http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/sasuke50111/ConflictDetector.jpg[/img]
Also for those who wanted to see what the eyes looked like heres one example of many
[img]http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/sasuke50111/ScreenShotExample.jpg[/img]

Never mind I fixed the problem anyway by installing Vanilla Eyes Addon V2.0 Stockby Phaedra
and setting it earlier in the load cycle perhaps without beautiful people loaded it had no mod pointing towards the vanilla eyes of oblivion.

Hey!

Got a quick question for you guys.
Up to now I was using BP. I installed Cobl today.
I figured I'd try keeping BP since I can't install the Races part 'cause I don't have SI. However, that caused some problems with the eyes of the NPCs. I removed BP, but I lost all options of customisation for my own character. At least the NPCs are fine now.

Is there a workaround for this? I see two options here - one would be to find a pack with the meshes and textures Cobl races needs from SI, and install this mod. The other one would be to revert back to BP/TNR. I'd much rather go with the first one

Cheers and thanks for a great mod!

cc

Cobl Races requires SI for Aurel and Mazken for the race data, voices, etc. So it will not work right without SI installed..

Best adivce purchase SI if you want to use cobl races, else keep on using bp instead..

Plus you should be using wyre bash with than many mods and race mods or cosmetics mods..load order is a mess get BOSS to sort it out..

Hey!

Thanks for the swift reply!

I am using Wrye Bash. I wasn't familiar with the fact that it can fix this type of conflicts. How would using a bashed patch help here?

The reason I mentioned a pack with meshes/textures for the races was this line from ufrealms:

I guess they didn't release it yet!

Cheers!

cc

Ok, I could use a bit of help here. I installed COBL races and the Cosmetic resource packs for it as well. The idea was to replace Beautiful People in my load order. However, I now have no eyes on any character in the game and no hair save for the vanilla hairs. Now, I went through the readme. Three times now and while it says Bash is not needed for this, there are however no suggestions as to load order without it. :banghead:

Yes, I know. I can already hear everyone opening their mouths and warming up with cries of "GET WRYEBASH YOU IDIOT!" I plan on installing Bash at some point soon, but not yet. Space is at a premium right now and COBL races and the cosmetics res have pretty much svcked up what little I had. I'm scrambling to get back over a gig at this point.

So my question, why have all the eyes and all but vanilla hairs vanished? How do I get them back? I've been fiddling with this for the better part of an hour now and frankly, I'm about ready to go back to BP even if it means having all the Khajiit in my game half shaved. :rolleyes: I do love the COBL core and really would like to use the COBL races, despite the size of it.

Most of the bottom third of my load order consists of WIP mods, none of which affect/add/subtract anything to or from races, hairs or eyes. With one or two exceptions, they're dungeons. I apologize if I sound frustrated but...well...I am. Thanks for helping.

Oblivion.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmCM Partners.esmUnnecessaryViolence.esmCobl Main.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espKnights.espDLCShiveringIsles.espCobl Si.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espCM Partners.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espidkrrr_sarams_race.espBeautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.espSaiyanRanger.espSylarCMPartnerESP.espCobl Races.espCobl Races - Balanced.espDude Wheres My Horse.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.espCrowded Cities 30.espStealthOverhaul.espLeviathan Soulgems.espWeynonRetreat.espThe Lost Spires.espkfDarkAdventuressBow.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulAncientYews.espxulArriusCreek.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulStendarrValley.espxuldarkforest.espxulTheHeath.espxulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espApachii_Goddess_Store.espLynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.espGianna.espKF Chapel Shop.espkalikuts_raretradegoods2_0.espCyrodill Travel Services.espOpen Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esproad+bridges.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espLostSpires-BravilBarrowfields patch.espLostSpires-DarkForest patch.espLostSpires-Everglade patch.espWeynonRetreat-Patch.espLostSwordoftheAyleids-ArriusCreek patch.espNRB4 OCLR Road Record.espCrowded Roads Revisited.espFaregyl.espRCWaterDungeon.espRCWaterKingdom.espRCSewerPassage.espCoolShadyDungeon.espaaRCSancreTorHomes.espRCRequisitionHall.espScreenshooter's Illumination.espRCWindKingdomFinal.espRCEarthKingdomFinal.espReclaimSancreTor.espRCLastHouse.espSeph's new animations.espKDDwemerSpectacles.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espTelekineticDamage.espLera's PirateSet.espThe Ayleid Steps.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espMorrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.espRCMorDradigDungeon.espadelina.espArenaGamblingHighRollers.esp24HrArenaAliveV2.espArmory of the Silver Dragon.espMaigrets House Cats.espactors_in_charge.espEFGAddPose.espJOJOeffect.espStandingJOJO.espRCCalvaryHill.espMHSNKirin.espUnnecessaryViolence.espActorsInMadness.espRedMod.espTT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.espR18PN - Amy Armor Set.espRCSerenityFarmInt.espSerenityFarm.espAFK_Weye.espHalcyon House.espInsanity's Pet Shop.espaaRCTrialsDungeon.espCobl Glue.esp

:hubbahubba:

You get something likehttp://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll54/pero_lozhach/Picture14.jpg I have just forgot to install the big file.

So what's the fuss about Wrye Bash? It's not like you have to feed it or take it out on a walk... However, I don't know what causes your problem so I don't know if bash would fix it...

Yep, just exactly like that and yes, I did install the huge Cosmetic resource files. As I said, I read the readme through several times in the course of trying to figure out what was wrong. The problem with bash is a lack of space on my drive at the moment, essentially. As it seems this mod is unwilling to work without being bashed, I've re-installed BP. If the patchwork Khajiit chests bother me, I can always disable Roberts.

I'll come back to this when I do have the space to install and use BASH. :foodndrink:

I have installed this and I love it. My only complaint is the blind eyes. I keep running into NPCs with the "blind" eyes.

I notice that if I scroll through the races at startup, after going through them once completely the Imperials, Bretons and Redguards have defaulted to "blind" eyes.

It seems like it ends up being the default eye since it is apparently first on the list. Or at least that is the conclusion I have drawn.

Is there a way to set another eye as the default? I don't mind the blind eye occasionally, but it seems to come up on Redguard NPCs frequently.

Discussion moved from http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=991307&st=60#entry14451168
Ive found perhaps a small problem that you all might not know of, this is not a huge problem to me, when it comes to using robert's male body replacer and cobl on khajiit characters, if i use the nvde character meshes the textures are not lined up correctly with the model and look very bad i have links to the images to show an example of what happens(Note: the character is wearing pants and it only happens with khajiit characters as far as i know) I sort of fixed it myself by sort of i mean now i just use the lower body model which looks ugly but the rest of the khajiit character looks fine as a result.http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/sasuke50111/Oblivion/?action=view¤t=KhajiitExamplefront.jpg http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/sasuke50111/Oblivion/?action=view¤t=KhajiitExampleback.jpg

My load order is as follows
Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
CM Partners.esm
AWS-Core.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Cybiades.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
PCSoundIrenicus.esp
AWS-Storms & Sound SI.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Crowded Cities 15.esp
Crowded Roads Advanced.esp
Choices and Consequences.esp
sr_super_hotkeys.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
ExnemEyeCandy.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp
Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp
1AzuSeraphimSet.esp
Hentai Compilation.esp
keyoblivion.esp
Banes DB Mask Placer True.esp
AmuletOfTheDivineVampire.esp
WabisukeBETA.esp
bustersword.esp
BleachOverhaul.esp
AW_Wings.esp
FujikujakuBETA.esp
Arch-Angel.esp
Angeleron.esp
poisonmushrooms.esp
Assassin_Blade.esp
Angelic Alliance.esp
Classic-Wizard-Robes-UL.esp
DBShadowSet_Khajiit_NE.esp
Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp
Elegant Vests.esp
M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp
M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp
ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp
ExnemEC_Warrior01.esp
ExnemZorlackArmory.esp
cidnothump.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
FCOM_Cobl.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OCC-OOO-Patch.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
Choices and Consequences - MMM.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp
FCOM_SaferRoads.esp
CurseOfHircine.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp
FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp
FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp
FCOM_Archery.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp
M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp
Servant of the Dawn.esp
thievery.esp
WOTFH_1.3.esp
Knights.esp
M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp
OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp
Cybiades.esp
CybiadesDungeon.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
Open Cities Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
Open Cities Full + Leyawiin Reborn.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
BetterCoins.esp
M.O.E. - New Classes.esp
P1DKeychain for COBL.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - OOO.esp
Quest Award Leveling.esp
Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp
Kobu's Skip Intro Mod.esp
Vampisism Overhaul 2.esp
Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp
M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp
M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp
M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp
M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_OOO.esp
SM_MMM.esp
SM_COBL.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
SM_UnlockSpells.esp
SM_NoSpellLights.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
Marksman Velocity.esp
Marksman Velocity SI.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
SM_DeadlyReflex.esp
Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
RealisticLeveling.esp
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
PHVanillaEyesAddon.esp
Vexend Race.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC NE.esp
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
AsharasCMBeasts.esp
DremoraCompanion.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
CleanQuit.esp
Troll Race.esp
BShadySam [Map Marker Only].esp
Unarmored skill.esp
ZEE-movablebodies.esp
ZEE-No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp
Extended Chorrol Open Cities.esp
Extended Skingrad Open Cities Complete.esp
Bow Damage Balanced.esp
Emu's Marksman Enhanced - Modified Arrow Physic.esp
Emu's Marksman Enhanced - Modified Perk Sneak Attack.esp
Krystina's Adjusted IngredWeight.esp
Krystina's MiscTweaks.esp
abotTempusFugit.esp
ZEE-BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp
attack and hide medium v2.0.esp
LightArrows.esp



and im not exactly sure if i use bash patch i did however use BOSS to automatically arrange my mods.

Re-Edit: Whoops roberts was disabled at the time of taking the load order now it is reupdated

Didint have a bash patch.esp file but i did find Bashed Patch, 0.esp in extras so i copied that to the data folder

Re-Edit: I rebuilt patch with Cobl races.esp and cobl races -balanced.esp checked however robert's was not there should i add it to the list of merge able mods and then check it off?

The version i have doesnt even have a tag so its not automatically bash tagged as race(also i cant figure out how to force it to bash tag itself as race since its not a available selection)

Rebuilt the patch tested and still have the same texture problem the readout was as follows if it helps
Race Records
Source Mods
? Cobl Races.esp

? MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp

? Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

Merged Races
None

Eye Meshes Filtered
None

(Note: i thought if done correctly there would be some changes in merged races section)

(Note: i learned how to tag but i thought wyre bash took care of the merging automatically)

(Third Note: Maybe if i added some of the other mods to the list that are listed as mergable it might fix itself automatically(no there are no other mods listed in race))


(Note: Currently piecing patch together after reordering list then testing notes will be made of improvement/deprovement)

Re-Edit: Test run same problem persists if Corepc is there

In race section bash patched results show up has

Merged: None ..

same way here..so ignore that..

I just notice that the rmb khajiit texture is not being applied correctly to mine either..Not fully spotted like they should be..that is what rbm textures look like..

I had rmb loaded before cobl races,

But after changing that so that malebodyreplacer4.esp was loaded after cobl races it fixes it bashed patch..

so that should do the trick in game has well..load malebodyreplacer after coblraces.esp..if not report back, and I can direct you on how to patch cobl races with tes4edit..to include changes from rmb itself..which is fairly easy to do..or I can send you patch..




Corepc

had to do something and just got back so ill try that and tell you if it works properly.

Re-Edit: Was looking at my load order and cobl glue and cobl races rebalanced are loaded after robs male re placer and cobl races.esp is loaded first after esm files so there technically shouldn't be any problems unless cobl glue or races rebalanced are changing it or an entirely diff mod is altering it.

Re-Edit: After applying some changes i have had no luck as far as this problem goes so perhaps ill ned a patch to fix it.

Edit: I'll check back on the forum in a hour afk for now.

Yes that is what is happen,

cobl races balanced is reverting the khajiit back to cobl version textures , not robert's spotted khajiit textures in malebodyreplacer.esp..

because it loading after it in your load order..

if you load rmb after cobl races / cobl races balanced then what ends up happening is that you loose all your eyes settings and hair stuff..so that is not a good idea either..Bash depending on load will fix it, but, sometimes it does not work out right, so a manual patch is needed.

I do have the personal rmb+cobl races, cobl races balanced that has all the rmb textures assigned to them and it work ..I can send it you if you like via pm..requries eve foot khajiit texture is all..

Corepc

Blast the merging of values was radical enough of a change that it forces me to make a new character for the third time this month <_< o well and im going to pm you corepc can you send the eve foot texture with it? (Note: i use exnem's eye candy for female bodies if that may cause any problems.)