Just downloaded Cobl v172 from TESNexus.

There's a minor error in the OMOD script.
Line 131 has "Endif" instead of "EndIf" (very case senstive is such code )

v172 is up

I've missed quite a bit, but won't be able to mod until Monday so I figured a release now would be better than later

Speaking of which, two long-standing questions:
1. Did the Salmo fix work for Open Better Cities? I've seen the question pop up, but no answer.
2. For when the Hibernation Potion seems to fail - if you run into this situation, could you please send a copy of your save/co-saves to haama341@hotmail.com. I have an idea of what it could be, but need to see the bug in action to be certain.

Ah, thanks, I forgot about the case sensitivity. Fixed and re-uploaded...

Re, Inebriation: I'm with Wrye on this one, which, for now, basically boils down to - it needs a bit more thought.

I have run into a problem with COBL 1.72.

After I installed this version of COBL, Oblivion would not load. It would play the logo videos, then hang. I would have to ALT-TAB to the task manager in order to close it down. Turning off all the COBL mods fixed this. I then turned on only cobl.esm, and Oblivion got stuck during loading again.

Thanks for the update

I will add to my list to check and see if working or not. If Salmo does not crash on me that is.



Post your load order, does it happen with a different character etc..Did you rebuild your bashed patched?

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Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]**  Qarls_Harvest.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp17  Choices and Consequences.esp18  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp19  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]1A  DLCVileLair.esp1B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1D  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  TFF_Races_Base_RSM.esp**  TFF_Armor_Base.esp**  TFF_Clothing_Base.esp**  TFF_Clothing_SI.esp++  TFF_Armor_OOO.esp1E  DLCThievesDen.esp1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]20  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]22  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]23  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp24  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 0.2]26  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b1]27  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b1]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 0.18]**  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp2B  SSEE-OOO.esp**  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]2C  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp++  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - FCOM.esp2D  KvatchAftermath.esp2E  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]2F  COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp30  GTAesgaard.esp31  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 5.5]32  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]33  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp34  Malevolent.esp35  Shezrie's Villages.esp36  DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp37  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 2.6]38  TheElderCouncil.esp39  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]3A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp3B  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3C  Ash's DB Kah'Lil Quest.esp3D  DLCfrostcrag.esp3E  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]3F  RTT.esp++  Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp  [Version Final]40  The Lost Spires.esp41  AFK_Weye.esp42  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]43  Blood&Mud.esp44  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6]45  TheNecromancer.esp46  MannimarcoRevisited.esp**  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]47  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.1]49  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.7]4A  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]4B  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4D  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]4E  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]4F  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]50  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.2]51  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]52  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.1]53  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]54  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.2]55  bartholm.esp56  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]57  Horadric Cube.esp58  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]59  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]5A  Unarmored Skill for Everyone.esp  [Version 3.0.4]5B  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]5C  Power Exhaustion.esp  [Version -01]5D  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_EnableCharmChameleon.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]5E  MidasSpells.esp5F  Midas OscuroGems.esp60  OOO-Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp61  Legendary Abilities-Fortify Health MOJ.esp62  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]++  TFF_Races_Base.esp63  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]64  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.61EV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]65  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]66  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]67  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]68  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]69  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]6A  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]6B  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.962]6C  Viconia.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]6D  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]6E  AleswellMerchant Cobl SI.esp6F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp70  MergedMaps.esp71  FormID Finder4.esp72  Streamline 3.1.esp

I reloaded the Cobl 1.17 files, but the load order is the same (just replace with the 1.72 versions).

I figured out what the problem was. I had both the regular and the FCOM version of the Item Interchane - Placement plugin loaded at the same time :banghead:. When I turned the standard version off, Oblivion reloaded normally.

Installed 1.72
Told me about some script errors but installed itself just fine, game loaded well.
I think Cobl-Tweak.esp is missing from the upload though... just to let you know.

just a minor 1: I noticed the porridge.dds file was missing

Not sure if this is COBL related - I'm pretty ignorant about how mods interact with one another - but I just installed 1.72, upgrading from 1.71, and now the drop lit torches feature of OOO does not work. Might be a coincidence of timing, but I thought I'd check if it were possible that COBL could interfere with that function. It worked fine with 1.71. Thanks!

Assuming you are talking omod script error, I did not get any when I rebuilt my omod, did you download the fixed version that Hamma posted.

Cobl tweaks is in download itself, but, the omod script check to see if you have fcom_convergence.esm installed if so then cobl tweaks is not installed. Since you use FCOM Cobl Tweaks instead.

Perhaps we should change this and let users picks this option once again. Instead of checking for fcom_convergence.esm check to see if fcom_cobl tweaks.esp is installed or not..




I will confirm this has well missing. Nif is there but not texture for it.

I'm not sure if this is an issue with this mod per se.

Last night I completed the mod Quest for the Demon Bane: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22066 and it had a lot of Ayleid Chests and Reliquary caskets. I found Ayleid loot including forks, Urns, Bowls, Cups and knife and fork.

They were in the chests so not laying out to check their form ID and if they come from ALEX (which I have loaded with COBL 171) - so they all have ff in their ID.

The problem is they all have missing textures and are pink.

I'm currently upgrading to 172 COBL, but ALEX states it requires COBL 171, so that should not be the problem.

The ALEX I have (2.0) is supposed to use the resources offered by COBL and I checked the older ALEX against the resources of COBL 171 to find that they are indeed the same.

So it would seem that either Demon Bane has it's own Ayleid Loot (it has no resources for that) or another mod is adding things like Ayleid forks or I'm a idgit when it comes to installing this combo.

How do I go about debugging this?

Probably uninstall ALEX and see if they go away on reload?

ALEX is adding the aylied forks, urns, bowls, etc..not demonbane..

check to make sure that you have textures\MEO\ directory..and meshes\vc\ has well..

archive invalidation ..did you put cobl into a bsa by chance?

No BSA implemented - all loose files.

I'm assuming the Meshes are OK as the rims and outlines of the items are there (no exclamation points).
The file path for the textures is data/textures/MEO/clutter/Ayleid/ ..the various textures..
just checked meshes and yes very similar filepath.

checked to make sure it is ALEX 2.0 and COBL 1.71 - they are.

I can open them with Paint and see the celophane looking textures, but they are not showing up in game.

Wait, you found the same kind of loot as ALEX loot in regular ayleid chests and reliquaries? In a mod-added dungeon? I never put it there! Is that mod Cobl-dependant or something?

Vac

No it is not COBL aware/compatible??? Not a half bad dungeon but so far the sword is a bit overpowered and definitely designed for those that are tired of closing gates (which is me right now). It will kill most daedra in ine blow.

Strange huh? Yeah they seemed to be mixed in with the loot lists actually.

I updated to 1.72 COBL and repackaged the BAIN package to make triple sure the textures are where they should be and still it all pink.

I guess I'm gonna have to go out and find some of the ALEX stuff to compare.

It sounds like they're supposed to be part of the mod then...? I suppose I could download it and take a look, but that'd have to wait until I get back from work later.

Vac

What are the specifics of the fix for this? I can look at the file and see if what's been done will work.

Very strange. There's none of Meo's ayleid clutter in that mod and I don't see how the clutter items are getting into the loot lists for that mod unless there's another mod like Item Interchange putting them there (Item Interchange sure isn't doing it!).

You could always use the console to add a couple of the Cobl-sourced clutter items to your inventory directly and check whether they're missing textures directly.

Vac

Edit: Oh, there is one other thing that would tell if they're from Cobl: the names. I derived the names from Ayliedic, so they're along the lines of naga-aurane, mallarimathiae and so on and so forth. I don't think any other implementation of Meo's clutter bothered doing that.

Vac-

I think they were put there by this mod: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25981 - merchant and loot overhaul.

Forgot about that mod and just looked in its resources and it has the MEO folder with the same file path, so in theory it should use the resources but it doesn't. I'll have to look at the file paths in tes4edit when I get home tonight.

Ahh, no worries then.

Vac

Hidy!

I've been busy playing Fallout 3 lately, but I stumbled across this thread today, and felt I needed to clarify - the porridge mesh/texture were done by Jannix Quinn, not me. I don't want to take credit for someone else's work. Also, while I don't have the time anymore to make a compatibility patch for OFM, my permission to Coblise it still stands.

I'll be watching this with interest!

Cheers,

Coleen

That was slightly on purpose because A. The file wasn't in the right place for a texture (should have been under "...\Textures\Menus\..." (I think, that seemed to be why the CS was throwing a "File in the wrong place" error) and B. I didn't have a chance to look at it with NifSkope (not that I'd really know what I was looking for).... actually, let me pull out the Farmer's Market .esp and see what Coleen uses


I forget the nature of the bug (completely forget - a CTD, AI went through the old door, when opening the door, when entering the city/cell?), but basically Salmo's uses a new door as the entrance and disables the old door. Fixed(?) by disabling the new door and restoring the old door.

Well I don't see anything in the Salmo file that should cause issues with OC/OBC. Looks like the AI packs all direct to interior cells.

Whatever is the veredict about my idea? If it has been rejected, at least I'd like to know. I'm happy enough keeping my little overhaul to myself, its just that I'd like some unused stuff and possibilities in Cobl get known by more people.

Migck, I did not forget about.

After looking it over, I think we can intergrate these changes into Cobl Tweaks, since that is what it is. I will talk it over with rest of TEAM on Alpha Forum since we have a topic there now..Our private developer forum...

Like the Spriggan Loot, MythicLoot Changes to Vendor Leveledlist, SI changes nice touch there (Will have to make a seperate SI Cobl Tweaks maybe for that),

I will reupload the file for rest of team. Since you took down the link for it..Unless you want to post it once again..