I noticed COBL has a Choices&Consequences menu for tracking the player's Reputation in the Mages and the Fighters Guilds. How does this work with older versions of C&C?
I thought it was the newer version of C&C which added the menu, not COBL itself...

Hi, I'm having a problem with the Luggage. It has stopped working as it should after I updated to 1.73. Taking items out of it is not a problem, but I can no longer put things in, only if there were other objects of the same item already in the luggage.

Was a new version of COBL released? I see people talking about 1.73 but I can not find any link to it,

It's the update called "Loot-Drop-Merchant_changes_Proposal", it's in the optional files, but is required for latest MMM

Good lord these fixes have been out for a year How did I miss this,

How do I use the sleepwear configuration option? I tried for considerable time but can't figure it out. Basically I want my PC to put on a certain robe when he goes to sleep.

There is nothing written in the Cobl readme, and a search of this thread and the previous no. 15 one for either "sleep" or "sleepwear" yields no useful result.

Thanks for your help, I would appreciate.

:huh: I think we had discussed it, but it wasn't implemented... or maybe Wrye put it in a separate mod? I'm not seeing a script for it in Cobl.

If you could do anything to jog my memory I can comment further... otherwise, I'm going on vacation tomorrow and need to wrap something up for Core and the FCOM team tonight, so I won't be able to look until next week (or, more reasonably, after Christmas).

One thing I noticed, mods that set a flag global like cobSigNoPcNeeds to 1 are not really working for me in 1.72. The cobGenQS script seems to revert these to 0 at every script update.



It actually sets the globals, which are short, to a reference variable, even if the script states this should only happen if the ref variables are set to something other than 0.
Maybe I'm getting something wrong about how these Sig globals actually work, but my idea is that any mod can set them and hope they remain set to != 0, or not? For instance, in my game not even Wrye Shivering Death seems capable to maintain them set at 1, and its a Cobl dependent mod.
Can anyone test to see if this happens in their game? Type in the console 'set cobSigNoPcNeeds to 1' , wait 3 seconds, then type 'show cobSigNoPcNeeds' and see if it returns 1.

Without looking at the systems specifically, that was Wrye's intention. The only way to set them to "On" or 1 is to set the reference variable. You'll see this as "Registeration" on UESP and I think in the Readme. The idea being, a mod will need to register an item (set the reference variable to an item unique to the mod), so when the mod is removed the reference variable will automatically revert to 0 and thus the signal will revert to 0. As with many vanilla Oblivion implementations, it's a hack.

So, no defining them directly then, but through a token?
Then it would seem that Wrye Shivering Death needs an update, since it sets all those 'NoWhatever' Sig globals to 1 directly upon dying. It was made for 1.18 and officially its still a beta, but I find it quite awesome myself. Would I need to add a token item, then set the ref variables to that item upon dying? Or create one token for each variable? or set the variables not to the tokens, but to a persistent reference of them?
By the way, the current death handling system usually fails in the cases in which your character is still under the influence of any health altering effects upon death (like dying with a constant restore health enchantment on, out in the day while being a vampire and suffering sun damage, falling into a 'killing pit' type of trap...). Is there any way to improve it, or would that require OBSE?

Edit: Well, I should have read the UESP Cobl page more often. So the variables are indeed periodically reset since 1.60. All clear now, I'll just update WSD with some OBSE goodness.

I'm rather surprised Wrye nurfed himself like that, and never updated... especially as there was quite some time between v1.61 and his retirement. Perhaps there's a newer version on musings or TesNexus?

Hi COBL team:

Just a friendly reminder to include Q's more and moldy ingredients inthe next update of COBL. asQarne has given his kind permission for this inclusion

I'm not a Cobl expert but it is my understanding that the latest version is 1.73. The download file on Tesnexus has a rather odd name that gives no clue that it contains the update. It's something like "Loot-Drop-Merchant-Proposal". Maybe make that upgrade in any case?

Thanks Haama. Well "sleepwear config" is one of the in-game menu options of Cobl. When you click it opens a container with "tokens" or placeholders (?) in it for all the equipment slots of the PC. What I do not "get" is how to make e.g. the "Top" token accept a shirt. :shrug: As you say, maybe it is not implemented or incomplete.

Now I do remember in one of my earlier calls of duty in Oblivion (2 years ago?) I had a mod for sleepwear config. It was definitely not Cobl but most likely some gear equipment mod. I cannot remember the name but there are not that many. It had a similar setup for sleepwear config, and it worked. Would you like me to go hunting for that mod in order for you to take a look how it is done there?

It is not all that important to me. But yeah, it would be nice if it could get to work. In any case this has definitely time until you come back from vacation!! :laugh:

I wish you a lovely Christmas time! Enjoy!! :celebration:

:poke: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16005. :tongue:

Oh, and the tokens are 'placeholders' that you select when you don't want to wear anything in that slot. So if you want to wear a shirt, you select the shirt and don't select the 'top' token.

Eloise

Thank you Eloise, problem solved!
I deserved that tongue :laugh:

Question:

Is there some mechanics reason that the Grinders are so slow when grinding tons of stuff, or is this a "realism" thing.

If it is a realism thing, what do I need to change to make it faster? Staring at a glowing grinder for 15 minutes real-time is a realistic simulation of boring.

It is my understanding that you need not "stare" at the grinder for the whole time but can walk away and come back later. Go to an inn in the meantime and have a drink! :foodndrink:

Thanks, you too.

I'm off until next week, probably until after Christmas really. Hopefully I'll have some news for you guys afterwards.

Oh, it has been Now I just need to figure out how best to spread the moldiness throughout the world.


It should take a second per item, but you'd still need 15 * 60 = 900 items to get 15 minutes. Unless I've misunderstood a line and it's a minute per item

set pause to pause + 1 ;line runs once per item...set timePassed to ((getCurrentTime - gameHourPrev) + 24*(gameDaysPassed - gameDaysPrev))*3600/timescale		if timePassed <= 0			set timePassed to getSecondsPassed		endif		set pause to pause - timePassed

Ahh, ok yeah, sounds about right at a second per (it was bones and gems I've been saving for 26 levels, heh, it was probably closer to the 20 minute mark. On the other hand, the scripting is very robust, no crashes or anything, though from the sound it may have stalled out a few times), was hoping there was a quick easy tweak to make it work in batches or something. Thanks for the response.

I've noticed that when I'm grinding really large quantities of stuff (I have a habit of collecting bones, don't ask why...) it seems to "get full" or something and I have to remove the products before it'll continue, at least when I am in the same cell. Can't remember if that happens if I leave and come back later.

Vac

I'd like to leave the delay for realism, but it does start to look stalled after 10 minutes, doesn't it :hehe: Should I give some type of timer, at least when it first starts up?

Stall - Sound is supposed to play every second. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, so I don't know if it's a loop or what, but I blame the notorious PlaySound3D function.

Not sure about the bones, but I'm giving the Grinder an overhaul and hopefully you can test it Vacuity

I'd love to, but as my game currently http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll61/Revanchism/Working/IMG_2526.jpg (a little different each time it loads, normally I'm missing all the distant trees) with just Oblivion.esm and DLCShiveringIsles.esp loaded, I've got some problems of my own to fix first. I can't even screenshot without crashing: that's taken with my camera.

Once I fix my install, I'll try and get on it.

Vac

I had a problem with sporadically missing water cells too, lowering the uGridsToLoad setting in the ini seemed to fix it

Nothing sporadic about it: the entire Tamriel worldspace is ****ed with no water, half the LOD missing, all actors missing most of their component nifs and a crash within ten seconds of exiting to any exterior space. I've narrowed it down to OBSE or one (or more) of the OBSE plugins. In any case, this has nothing to do with Cobl and I'm not actually needing help. It just takes a little time finding the culprit as I have a lot of other things to do than this.

Vac