Combat Armor: Overlooked?

Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:23 pm

For the previous games, my favorite set of armor was combat armor, as I typically like to play as a veteran/soldier/infantryman. Reily's Rangers, NCR, etc...

Seeing as how we are an army vet in Fallout 4, I love the idea of going back to the army depot after we wake up, gearing up and setting out to restore order like Rick Grimes going into cop mode once he wakes up after his apocalypse. Like he hasn't changed at all.

However, in all the screenshots we see US soldiers wearing power armor, not the standard issue combat armor. Only in the 2nd screenie do we see dress fatigues; not armor:

http://img2.goodfon.su/wallpaper/big/b/b2/fallout-4-bethesda-game.jpg

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/ps4/fallout_4/screens/fallout_4_10.jpg

Also in one screenshot I saw an US Army enlistment poster with a man in power armor too.

Power armor is supposed to be this rare and powerful thing, with most soldiers using combat armor. Fallout 1, 2, 3, and NV all abided by this (Fallout 3 being somewhat halfway, with correct pre-war army composition, but having it standard issue for BoS rank and file). Will combat armor make an appearance? Will it be a lot more common than power armor? I hope so....

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:37 pm

During the E3 presentation where Todd is talking us through the Pip-Boy app, we can see different variations of Combat Armor, including "Light Fibreglass", "Light Reinforced", and "Light Shadowed"

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:55 pm

The layered armor system looks totally cool, a very nice addition to Fo4

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:45 am

Woohoo I'm glad combat armor is making a return, that too was my fav armor in Fallout 3.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:02 pm

Its stated in lore that power armor troops were deployed domestically to control crowds and riots. Sure its rare, but a few soldiers in power armor can do the crowd control job of a hundred men in combat armor.

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:26 am

i thought this was interesting on power armor history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewr0SPkgSy0

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:58 pm

Combat armor was my favorite for FO3, but in FONV I gravitated towards the ranger armor more.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:11 pm

Rare? Hardly.

As for combat armour, I think it will be layered components, which should be pretty darn cool.

As for mattyplays, that video had some errors in it. The Enclave made power armour that out-matched even the T-51b, and he just rambles unconfirmed things about the T-60 :/

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:29 am

I like combat armor as well, but prefer Elite Riot Gear since it showed up in the Divide. Give me that over Power Armor any day.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/dc/Elite_riot_gear.png/revision/latest?cb=20120621192503


Desert Ranger combat Armor is a close second.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110528233614/fallout/images/e/eb/DR_combat_armor.png


The U.S. army Combat Armor was a nice, new take on the original combat armor.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/3/3f/US_Army_combat_armor.png/revision/20150503013127
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:07 pm

Well we already seen it once (in my mind), the armour that the player wears in the combat/music video in the bit where he uses a sledgehammer to just complete destroy a raider feels like its this games combat armour.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:05 pm

It'll still be there, although in layers now.

My favorite look in Fallout 3 was the Armored Vault Suit with a Combat helmet. Now it looks like we'll be able to armor our own vault suit, and I'll most likely be putting Combat or Metal armor components all over the stuff.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:06 pm


And I would not be surprised if there are army fatigues you could wear, if you want to fully replicate the combat armour look of 3/NV.
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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:47 am

I'm pretty sure there is a peek at some combat armour in the combat trailer.

Yep, just re watched it haha

The pc is wearing what appears to be a tan plate carrier with familiar but updated shoulder/upper arm protection. @ 31:46 in e3 presentation when he's smashing a guy to little bits with the super sledge.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:09 pm

http://imgur.com/KxlPM4e

Never used imgur before, Hope the link works

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:22 am

Just a nitpick, but the weapon the pc is using there isn't actually a super sledge, it is a rocket propelled regular sledge hammer. Which is immensely cooler than a regular super sledge.

as for the Op: We don't know if there will be full suits of combat armor, but we do know there are at least pieces of combat armor.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:17 pm


Does the Air Force hand out the F-22s like candy to enlisted personnel? Does the Navy turn all Marines into Navy SEALS? Does the Army give everyone an Abrams Tank to drive? From the look of the ads they show off, it seems that way.

Power Armor is rare and special. The US in Fallout no doubt uses it for promotional material to get support, they may be rare, but they're not secret. Hell, in the first Fallout's intro, you're treated to a "newsreel" showing two US soldiers in T-51b suits executing a Canadian, meant as a wartime promotional thing.

The ones by the Vault in Fallout 4 are the older model T-45d's. While serviceable in their own right, they're technically prototypes and not meant for extended field use like the 51b's, IIRC. However, considering that there was a significant-ish production run, combined with the general lack of resources immediately preceeding the Geart War, I can see the older suits getting brought out for riot control. Like, say, keeping order while citizens attempt to get into a Vault when the nukes fly.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:43 pm

I found the Combat Armor too uniform-looking for a lone wanderer -type. I left it for mercenary outfits, like the Reilly's Rangers.

I'd imagine power armored crowd control more bloodier than normal crowd control. Kinda fits the setting.

That's just... beautiful. *sniff* Excuse me, I have something in my eye.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:16 pm

I loved Reilly's Armor in Fallout 3, and hope to get something similar to it in FO4. I thought PA was cool the first time I played through, but decided on combat armor every time thereafter due to weight and the perks Reilly's Armor provided.

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:53 am

The Reilly's Rangers armor in Fallout 3 is Combat Armor (just painted a different color from the normal green).

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:27 pm


^This. Plus, it was far easier to keep Combat Armor in good repair in the mid- and late-game, and cheaper weight-wise to carry a spare for repair parts.
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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:35 am

The U.S. Army Combat Armor was one of my personal favs from New Vegas. Actually preferred it over the Riot Gears as all the guns clipped into the cloak at the back of the riot gear :( i hope clipping is fixed in the new Fallout. Just one of my major pet peeves from Fallout 3 and New Vegas, was the holstered weapons clipping into the back of your armor.

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:08 am


New Vegas introduced so many nifty things compared to FO3, from flare guns and antimateriel rifles to Riot Gear, breathing masks and cool dusters. I got attached to a lot of things that I'd hate to see thrown out the window just because Bethesda didn't "make" it. Yeah, yeah, I know Bethesda owns it, but New Vegas happened. No apologies for having expectations of a return of cool things, even if they are ignored.

Regarding clipping...textures and models look entirely different and I know they are more than aware of the clipping issues. I hope it got fixed as well...which isn't unreasonable considering the availability of development time.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:23 pm


Indeed, I hope most of the weapons and armors from FONV make a return.
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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:18 am

I have never liked Combat Armor

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:05 pm

Yes, exactly.

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To clarify, I was trying to say that to me Combat Armor makes you look like you're a soldier/guard of some group or faction. All the Reilly's Rangers use their version of the Combat Armor, Talon mercs use their version and the Rivet City guards have their own. So I left it to them.

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