No Commonwealth!

Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:22 am

Ok so the community thinks the commonwealth of MIT would be a good location, well I have done some research and have found that besides MIT Cambridge, Massachusetts the city that has MIT) has no significant land marks or any significant locations to explore the city besides MIT so what exactly would we do in this boring fallout 4? Would we look up books in the library, oh wait no we should go to the local museum that would be way better than hunting super mutants in New York!
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:31 am

Totally agree.Commonwealth better set in F4 DLC.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:14 am

Perhaps the game will expand the game area as was the case in fallout 1 & 2. Boston, New York, Providence, Hartford, Montreal and a plethora of smaller towns are not too far away.
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Post » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:20 pm

Ok so the community thinks the commonwealth of MIT would be a good location, well I have done some research and have found that besides MIT Cambridge, Massachusetts the city that has MIT) has no significant land marks or any significant locations to explore the city besides MIT so what exactly would we do in this boring fallout 4? Would we look up books in the library, oh wait no we should go to the local museum that would be way better than hunting super mutants in New York!



are you nuts? no other significant landmarks? Though you must realize that Boston is nothing without Cambridge and vis-versa they are intertwined also with the City of Somerville
MIT has it own Nuclear Reactor
Science Museum
Harvard University
Harvard Yard
Rosevelt Towers Housing projects
Long Fellow Bridge(Salt and Pepper shaker Bridge/Local lore)
Weld Boat House
Fogg Museum(Havard)

and much more here at the Wiki for the Campus for MIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_of_the_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:49 pm

Perhaps if there weren't a bunch of landmarks it would draw attention towards more important aspects of the game, like I don't know, GAMEPLAY?

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Honestly I hope it isn't in New York or something. And I don't care if it's in Boston, as long as it's more of an RPG, has more people to interact with, and less wasted space and wasted potential in the game.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:06 am

And remember, the fallout universe is not our own...that in itself allows a lot of creative lee-way...
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:14 am

If the commonwealth is doing as well as zimmerman implies, they have probably does some building and expansion, probably above and below ground.
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Post » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:57 pm

If the commonwealth is doing as well as zimmerman implies, they have probably does some building and expansion, probably above and below ground.

Well actually Zimmermann says the Commonwealth itself is nothing but a quagmire of violence and despair...
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:39 am

Er, I guess I should have said the Institute, not the Commonwealth itself. They have some very advanced technology and have developed androids.
Also, I don't know why I called him Zimmerman, it's just Zimmer. That's what I get for posting before my first cup of coffee... :wacko:
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:23 am

Ok so the community thinks the commonwealth of MIT would be a good location, well I have done some research and have found that besides MIT Cambridge, Massachusetts the city that has MIT) has no significant land marks or any significant locations to explore the city besides MIT so what exactly would we do in this boring fallout 4? Would we look up books in the library, oh wait no we should go to the local museum that would be way better than hunting super mutants in New York!


You've apparently never played any DLC, because the only one with any significant exploration is Point Lookout, which is even less interesting in real life than MIT. At least MIT is one of the leading scientific institutions in the world, Point Lookout is just a Maryland state park with nothing of note to outsiders except that it appeared in Fallout 3. Hell, I saw an article from a local newspaper from the county where the real Point Lookout state park is located and most of it was just whining that PL was inaccurate and got the lighthouse wrong and there weren't any pine trees.

At least the Institute is supposed to have a secret high-tech enclave hidden from the wasteland.
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Post » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:34 pm

I don't (personally) feel that ruined landmarks are a significant feature of the Fallout franchise to begin with. Literally the only landmark I remember in any Fallout game beyond Fallout 3 was the sign when you entered New Reno.

And yes - I'd just as soon not see a Fallout: New York - it's just been done too many times. I've seen a broken Statue of Liberty so many times now that it's lost any degree of emotional content, for me. It wouldn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't already been done before in any number of movies, books, and videogames already.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:14 am

Yeah, I don't know why after FO3 people somehow think that real-world landmarks are required for Fallout games.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:49 am

I would not mind Exploring Dayton Ohio..... After all it is the largest AFB in North America you got Hanger 18....... not to mention the museum.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:22 am

Doesn't Boston have that massive underground highway? That'd be cool.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:56 am

Honestly I hope it isn't in New York or something. And I don't care if it's in Boston, as long as it's more of an RPG, has more people to interact with, and less wasted space and wasted potential in the game.


I agree, New York is a fantastic setting but it has been done to death. GTA did an amazing job with Liberty City. So good in fact that a FO game would draw unfair comparisons. Been there done that. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, London please!
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:34 am

Ok so the community thinks the commonwealth of MIT would be a good location, well I have done some research and have found that besides MIT Cambridge, Massachusetts the city that has MIT) has no significant land marks or any significant locations to explore the city besides MIT so what exactly would we do in this boring fallout 4? Would we look up books in the library, oh wait no we should go to the local museum that would be way better than hunting super mutants in New York!


Not really, a campus would have all kinds of things to explore - fraternities and sororities, dorm rooms, gym locker rooms, libraries, science labs, classrooms, cafeterias, etc. - it would make great DLC material.

Oh, they could do anyplace and make it interesting.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:24 am

Whilst I like the landmarks being in FO3, and am a supporter of it as they help bind fallout's world to the location it claims to represent; Landmarks are not a strict requirement for FO4 - FO4 can be a great game without them.

That said, given the effect Bethesda has gotten from the landmarks, I'd be suprised if as a creative decision they did base their next Fallout title somewhere that could appear generic. But its not a deal breaker.

Fallout 4 Doesnt have to be centered on MIT to have a Commonwealth focus - we don't even need to visit there. As you get closer to MIT, you'd logically hear more about the commonwealth and meet more of their agents. A Boston or New York game could have a significant commonwealth focus.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:25 am

Ok I might be able to se like an advanced building with like all types of stuff going on, but New York would be a nice and big area an MIT DLC for fallout 4 in New York would work nicely.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:44 am

are you nuts? no other significant landmarks? Though you must realize that Boston is nothing without Cambridge and vis-versa they are intertwined also with the City of Somerville
MIT has it own Nuclear Reactor
Science Museum
Harvard University
Harvard Yard
Rosevelt Towers Housing projects
Long Fellow Bridge(Salt and Pepper shaker Bridge/Local lore)
Weld Boat House
Fogg Museum(Havard)

and much more here at the Wiki for the Campus for MIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_of_the_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology


Owned!!


Well actually Zimmermann says the Commonwealth itself is nothing but a quagmire of violence and despair...


Well see thats another Fallout setting! All Fallout needs is death, Mutants, radiation, and violence to be complete!!
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:42 am

Personally I'd be fine with no landmarks. I think with a few interesting towns, decent character interaction, and good quests FO4 could even be placed in the middle of a desert and nobody would notice. Shooting a super mutie in the face at a landmark or in the middle of nowhere really makes no difference to me.

If there was some type of vote though, I'd vote no to New York. The only part if FO3 I didnt like was D.C.. Hundreds of buildings I couldnt enter, impassible streets (far far too common), and needing to plod through a subway system everytime I wanted to explore a new location. After doing the storyline quests, 90% - 95% of my game time has been spent away from D.C.. NYC would just be more of the same and I'd much rather play in an open-ended world.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:03 am

Ok so the community thinks the commonwealth of MIT would be a good location, well I have done some research and have found that besides MIT Cambridge, Massachusetts the city that has MIT) has no significant land marks or any significant locations to explore the city besides MIT so what exactly would we do in this boring fallout 4? Would we look up books in the library, oh wait no we should go to the local museum that would be way better than hunting super mutants in New York!


With respect, you must not have done too much research.

MIT is in Cambridge Massachusetts and Boston is about 10 minutes away according to Google maps...There is a Commonwealth Ave. Think about it, Old Ironsides, Old North Church, Boston Common, Paul Revere's house, Kennedy Presidential library, Ted Williams tunnel, Bunker Hill, Fenway...The ocean, rivers, canols, Boston Harbor...

What a game that would be.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:14 am

I still say Dayton, Ohio the big city type setting has been done to many times.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:55 am

MIT is in Cambridge Massachusetts and Boston is about 10 minutes away according to Google maps...There is a Commonwealth Ave. Think about it, Old Ironsides, Old North Church, Boston Common, Paul Revere's house, Kennedy Presidential library, Ted Williams tunnel, Bunker Hill, Fenway...The ocean, rivers, canols, Boston Harbor...

Cheers... Bad joke lol. But yeah, even if Cambridge itself doesn't have much other the MIT, Boston is one of the most landmark filled US cities. Not as if that was supposed to be a consideration in Fallout to begin with, but anyway.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:53 am

I'd like to see The Commonwealth as an expansion for fallout. I want a proper send off to this game, not a 3-5 hour long dlc. If Bethesda followed the scale set with the shivering isles. I think that would be the best option. I'd like to see what happened to Boston, and the android revolution does seem like an interesting story. But could there really be enough to make a whole new game? I have doubts about that.
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Post » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:10 pm

Just because Fallout 4 might take place in the Commonwealth, which it might not also, doesn't mean that it necessarily has to base the main story on the android revolution or even the Institute at all.

The Institute and the android storyline can just be a secondary theme done outside of the Main Quest. There is potentially a million different things they could do within the setting of the Commonwealth that has nothing to do with the specific location at all and that could be the same main theme in any other location from New York to Pango Pango.

If Fallout 4 does take place in the Commonwealth then I actually hope the main quest is not dealing with the droids. I hope that the Institute is actually like one of the major cities in the other games such as NCR or Megaton but not the focus of the game. I would actually love to visit post-apocalyptica Boston and stand amidst a major ruined city as one of the available locations.

No to Commonwealth DLC, I might enjoy an expansion but it isn't going to happen so I'm not going to even form the illusion it might.
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