First of all people I don't want people getting flamed for having different opinions on this. Please make it a nice and friendly discussion.

I want to see what you guys and gals think of my comparison screenshots that I took in Oblivion. Although they are not exactly the same landscape or have
exactly the same creatures/NPCs in them. I want to know what you think. Is Skyrim a major leap forward (graphics) from Oblivion looking at my screenshots?

I GET the ones from Skyrim are Xbox 360 screenshots so don't try and catch me out there. I took the Oblivion screenshots and I tried to get them as near as
possible to the pictures in Skyrim. These where taken with max settings in Oblivion with HDR enabled (no AA, no mods). I don't want people pointing out that isn't
fair because you can't compare a console with a PC. It's just the fact that Skyrim is a 2011 game and should look much better than Oblivion regardless of what platform it's on.

I am just going to keep it short and sweet and say I think Skyrim looks really nice compared to Oblivion, but it's not a massive leap. I will still gladly be playing this game on day one and it's not another
"It looks crap!" thread.

Here are the screenshot comparisons:

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8783/skyrimcomparison01.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5318/skyrimcomparison02.jpg

Thank you.

Edit: Made it more clearer what I was asking. This doesn't void the poll because I'm sure people knew what I was asking originally (it was virtually the same, just now reworded).

I like the more detail it has than Oblivion, but again we are talking about a game from 2006 and a game 5 months from now

Skyrim will dominate all other Elder Scroll games by any measure with graphics. :flamethrower:

Are you talking about the general clutter or the people and objects look more defined?

I love Skyrim's graphics. I don't understand why everyone is complaining about it.

While the lack of shadows in the mammoth picture doesn't look great, it's the 360 version. I look forward to full shadows in my PC version. Also, I like the lack of snow around the base of trees in the Oblivion shot, which Skyrim doesn't have... weird....

Other than that, no comparison.

I would kinda say defined, but my main answer is that it is more natural

leagues better especially the mountains/people.

The look of the game "feels" better than any other RPG.

It looks more mature than Oblivion.

The art direction is beautiful, but it's also clear that they've reached their technical limitations.

I don't remember Oblivion looking that bad :sadvaultboy:

It looks a lot better than Oblivion to me, even though the screenshots have been made on the Xbox. The PC version is going to look like, A LOT better than Oblivion.

Character comparisons
http://i.imgur.com/0XFEX.jpg

Technologically it has not improved much, but that matters not because aesthetically it has improved vastly over oblivion.

Lol, Oblivions characters were always hideous, but the comparison makes them look so much worse.

To be honest I only think Skyrim looks better because of things like new lighting, up to date character and object creation techniques (better use of bump maps, baking ect.)

The draw distance is a really nice BIG improvement though.

Yeah, that's true. But this will be the last Elder Scrolls on this console-cycle, the Elder Scrolls VI will definetly be on the next Playstation and Xbox. Allowing much better graphics.

Holy crap that's MUCH better

WOW. I now am vomiting over Oblivion's characters. That is a HUGE step in character design.

Very nice


And thanks OP. Ive missed a lot of the newer pictures to come out lately

Seeing as how Nintendo is already showing off their next console, it's safe to say that we're on the threshold of the next console cycle. I'd be willing to wager quite a bit that the next Xbox and Playstation will be less than a year behind "Project Cafe." If they had designed for current tech (then downscaled it), it'd would probably be a relatively simple matter for them to port the game over to these new systems the moment they hit the shelves. And those version would have been on par or nearly on par with the PC version. Instead they chose to base their design around aging systems and I think it shows. And I think it was short-sighted of them.

I reckon both versions have the same soft shadows. I think you're just expecting more shadows than that scene actually should have with that lighting

NPCs are massively better looking. Not as much for the landscape, but it's still significant and we've yet to see it in game.

And of course, the BEST new graphical feature can't be captured in pictures: the animations. Every other TES game had atrocious animations and the new engine they're using for animations should be HUGE.

The dynamic snow should add a lot too.

I think the difference is quite obvious and much better myself, look at the mts and the distances shown in detail, sharper edges and much better detailing of the environment, except in the grasses maybe