Complaint to my fellow modders about your works on Nexus

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:59 pm

Could the modders also please not use extreme violent images as the main image, I do find some of them fairly offensive and they give my kids nightmares.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:40 am

You could always just do some parenting.

If your child is too young to know about six, what exactly are they doing playing a game like Fallout?
In Great Britain it's 18+.
In Japan it's 18+.
In Canada and the United States it's 17+.
In Australia it's 15+.
In New Zealand it's 18+.
In Europe it's 18+.

Don't blame other people for your own negligence.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:32 pm

You could always just do some parenting.
Don't blame other people for your own negligence.


If that was aimed at the OP, I do understand him even if I do not agree, if aimed at my last post, then I will give my reason for not agreeing with the OP;

Someone is going to be offended by something, it's a foregone conclusion, my post was to stress a difficulty, I'm not really offended by anything that I mentioned and all my children have grown up and flown the coupe, but there are still things on the internet I find much more offensive and they are real things not textures, meshes and pixels.

It just boils down to what some people find acceptable others will find offensive, the OP obviously asked politely for the content to be moved to a more discreet location, but then my question would be, how would the OP react if the request was refused?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:53 am

If that was aimed at the OP, I do understand him even if I do not agree, if aimed at my last post, then I will give my reason for not agreeing with the OP;

Someone is going to be offended by something, it's a foregone conclusion, my post was to stress a difficulty, I'm not really offended by anything that I mentioned and all my children have grown up and flown the coupe, but there are still things on the internet I find much more offensive and they are real things not textures, meshes and pixels.

It just boils down to what some people find acceptable others will find offensive, the OP obviously asked politely for the content to be moved to a more discreet location, but then my question would be, how would the OP react if the request was refused?


It was directed at the OP, actually.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:04 am

You could always just do some parenting.
The thing is, the OP is parenting. He's taking an active role in his child's development. That's a lot more than I can say for some parents.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:02 pm

From the OPs description it sounded like he is trying to "parent" as you say, but the advlt-content filters on nexus didn't work properly.

Realize, it may not have even been normal-ish advlt content that he came upon. It might not have been a pair of boobies or a girl in a bathing suit.

To be absolutely frank, are you comfortable with your young child staring in surprise at a screenshot of a gay porm mod of Fallout 3? Did you want a Fallout 3 mod to usher you into having to discuss gay porm with your kid? If the advlt content filters aren't working properly, it could happen.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:26 am

From the OPs description it sounded like he is trying to "parent" as you say, but the advlt-content filters on nexus didn't work properly.

Realize, it may not have even been normal-ish advlt content that he came upon. It might not have been a pair of boobies or a girl in a bathing suit.

To be absolutely frank, are you comfortable with your young child staring in surprise at a screenshot of a gay porm mod of Fallout 3? Did you want a Fallout 3 mod to usher you into having to discuss gay porm with your kid? If the advlt content filters aren't working properly, it could happen.


I don't see why gay porm is worse than any other. :confused:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:35 am

The thing is, the OP is parenting. He's taking an active role in his child's development. That's a lot more than I can say for some parents.


I disagree. If they're too young to know about six, they're far too young to be playing Fallout 3.

And if they aren't playing, they shouldn't be around while Daddy is. He should wait until they're in bed or at school. As a former child, I can safely say that seeing a character in a game being dismembered is much more scarring than seeing Mummy and Daddy (or anybody else for that matter) naked-wrestling.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:27 pm

So basically, what you're (in a nuthsell) saying is that children seeing nudity is wrong? :huh:

Nudity is about as natural a part of life as it gets, and seeing a nvde body should not damage a child in any way. In fact, the only thing damaging the child is teaching them that seeing nudity at a young age is wrong. I know I won't change anyones mind, and that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion just as I am to mine. My point is just that nudity in itself is not "advlt content" it's just someone not wearing clothes, simple as that.

From the OPs description it sounded like he is trying to "parent" as you say, but the advlt-content filters on nexus didn't work properly.

Realize, it may not have even been normal-ish advlt content that he came upon. It might not have been a pair of boobies or a girl in a bathing suit.

To be absolutely frank, are you comfortable with your young child staring in surprise at a screenshot of a gay porm mod of Fallout 3? Did you want a Fallout 3 mod to usher you into having to discuss gay porm with your kid? If the advlt content filters aren't working properly, it could happen.

Discussing gay six with your kid is exactly the same as discussing heterosixual six. Just wiith two people of the same gender, and not a man and a woman. There's no difference at all, except for personal preference.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:42 am

So basically, what you're (in a nuthsell) saying is that children seeing nudity is wrong? :huh:

Nudity is about as natural a part of life as it gets, and seeing a nvde body should not damage a child in any way. In fact, the only thing damaging the child is teaching them that seeing nudity at a young age is wrong. I know I won't change anyones mind, and that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion just as I am to mine. My point is just that nudity in itself is not "advlt content" it's just someone not wearing clothes, simple as that.

Discussing gay six with your kid is exactly the same as discussing heterosixual six. Just wiith two people of the same gender, and not a man and a woman. There's no difference at all, except for personal preference.


Not to mention they've probably walked in on Mum or Dad in the shower at least once without being scarred for life, and they probably think their dog's doodle is downright hilarious.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:38 am

From the OPs description it sounded like he is trying to "parent" as you say, but the advlt-content filters on nexus didn't work properly.

Realize, it may not have even been normal-ish advlt content that he came upon. It might not have been a pair of boobies or a girl in a bathing suit.

To be absolutely frank, are you comfortable with your young child staring in surprise at a screenshot of a gay porm mod of Fallout 3? Did you want a Fallout 3 mod to usher you into having to discuss gay porm with your kid? If the advlt content filters aren't working properly, it could happen.
I'm going to regret saying this, I'm sure, but gay porm isn't any worse than straight porm.

I disagree. If they're too young to know about six, they're far too young to be playing Fallout 3.

And if they aren't playing, they shouldn't be around while Daddy is. He should wait until they're in bed or at school. As a former child, I can safely say that seeing a character in a game being dismembered is much more scarring than seeing Mummy and Daddy (or anybody else for that matter) naked-wrestling.
As a former child, I agree. :P However, I'm trying very hard not to impose my own viewpoint on the OP. They are his kids, not mine. Also, there is no real age where a child is too young to know about six - there is just different levels of understanding. Parents (understandably) can have trouble trying to explain these things to their children in ways they can understand - this is where we get the "birds and bees" stuff from.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:54 am

I don't see why gay porm is worse than any other. :confused:


Explicitly from the perspective of a straight person who has a young kid, it's a BIG difference. There's some images that you really, simply, do NOT want to have to explain to a young kid. A woman with large boobies is one thing to explain, or a woman with a skimpy bathing suit, I mean... it's a different world than this other mod that I saw. I don't think I'll hotlink the mod I saw on Nexus here.... but seriously... it's the last thing you'd want your young kid to see and have to feel a need to explain.
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I'm going to regret saying this, I'm sure, but gay porm isn't any worse than straight porm.

As a former child, I agree. :P However, I'm trying very hard not to impose my own viewpoint on the OP. They are his kids, not mine. Also, there is no real age where a child is too young to know about six - there is just different levels of understanding. Parents (understandably) can have trouble trying to explain these things to their children in ways they can understand - this is where we get the "birds and bees" stuff from.


What do you mean, "birds and bees"? I was told I came from the cabbage patch!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REAL ANYMORE! :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:21 am

Explicitly from the perspective of a straight person who has a young kid, it's a BIG difference. There's some images that you really, simply, do NOT want to have to explain to a young kid. A woman with large boobies is one thing to explain, or a woman with a skimpy bathing suit, I mean... it's a different world than this other mod that I saw. I don't think I'll hotlink the mod I saw on Nexus here.... but seriously... it's the last thing you'd want your young kid to see and have to feel a need to explain.
I'd consider images of two men having six together to be about as difficult to explain to a child as trying to explain a man and a woman having six. The two men love each other, just like the man and woman live each other. Any explanation that is applied to the man and woman having six (wanting to please each other, show their love, etc) works just fine for the two men. The only explanation that doesn't work is the making babies one. Which typically isn't the case anyway, as many pregnancies are http://www.ehow.com/about_4676475_definition-unplanned-pregnancy.html.
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Explicitly from the perspective of a straight person who has a young kid, it's a BIG difference. There's some images that you really, simply, do NOT want to have to explain to a young kid. A woman with large boobies is one thing to explain, or a woman with a skimpy bathing suit, I mean... it's a different world than this other mod that I saw. I don't think I'll hotlink the mod I saw on Nexus here.... but seriously... it's the last thing you'd want your young kid to see and have to feel a need to explain.

You're either a prude that saw a pixel-man naked, or you saw 2+ pixel-men doing x rated things. Either way, explaining about the 2+ pixel men having fun shouldn't be too different from explaining 2+ different-gender pixel people doing the same things. Can't see why the gender orientation of the pixelated people would make things different.

Heck, post the search words, got me curious.
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You're either a prude that saw a pixel-man naked, or you saw 2+ pixel-men doing x rated things. Either way, explaining about the 2+ pixel men having fun shouldn't be too different from explaining 2+ different-gender pixel people doing the same things. Can't see why the gender orientation of the pixelated people would make things different.

Heck, post the search words, got me curious.


If you can call me a prude, I can tell you to go [censored] yourself. My real life job is hosting and servicing servers which serve primarily porm to the web and I do it with the utmost defense for my customers' content. Don't call me a prude. But I do NOT ship the stuff around for young children to gander at, nor do I try to get any advlt content to bypass advlt filters. Real porm hosts don't want their stuff to bypass advlt content filters. They are offering a service, not trying to interfere with your family life.

edit: I don't recall what it was named. It changed the raiders around, and they had less clothing, looked about as well-endowed as horses, and for all practical purposes had priapism. That's all I wanna say.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:50 pm

What you are doing is essentially posting a big QQ. Fallout 3 is NOT meant for kids and it is well-known that violence is quite integral to the design of this game, given the history of its predecessors. If you want a game to be free of gore and six, then choose a different game for your son.

Furthermore, modders have no obligation to comply with your demands. If you want to play FO3 and download mods, then choose the mods for your son. If you don't want to go through such a hassle, there are great many games out there that are fun, intense, and relatively non-violent.

With that said, you should consider taking on your responsibility as a parent rather than asking others to go out of their way to align their methodologies to your needs.

Depends on the age of the kid. Still and all, I'm *NOT* Ok with my son seeing 'massive violence'.

The first two mods I created or downloaded were a gore remover (no blood, no dismemberment), and I went through and changed numerous text lines in the dialogues. and disassociated the sound files attached to them as well. while I could by no means remove EVERY curse word, I did manage to remove dozens of them, including a number of the combat triggered ones.

So when my kid shoots something, theres no more violence than in his favorite movie (Indiana Jones), cartoon, or video game (LEGO star wars).

I think Bethesda made a cop-out choice to go with such rampant violence.

In dozens of end to end play throughs (I mod, so I have to playtest...alot), not to mention oodles of marathon hours of short plays, with my three top mods loaded, I can count on my fingers and toes the number of truly vile swears I've heard now, and each one is on my list to nuke.

Im actually thinking of releasing it, but its very harsh, dirty editing that I did when I was first starting, so It tends to be crashy sometimes.

Furthermore, regardless of what may or may NOT appear in the game itself, or what a child may or may not be exposed to in the environment of such a game, you are missing the larger picture.

The true upshot of this post is about CLASS. Its also about LEGALITY. As a parent, I have the right to decide what my child is or isnt exposed to, and in what quantity. YOU, as some random person on a file hosting site...do not.

The law, furthermore, does not specify when my child can be exposed to 'violence'. Thats a call I have to make, and one I addressed already above (the anti gore mods). Again, there is more violence in his Indiana Jones movie, than in Fallout 3 when he plays it with what I have installed.

Furthermore he is allowed ONE hour per day to play on the computer. Some days he chooses THIS game, some days he chooses something else, other days he forgoes the computer entirely. Hes a smart kid :)


Anyway, think of many of our favorite 'violent games'...Team fortress (1 and 2), Counterstrike, etc. How much uncalled for gore do you see? Very little. A little blood, maybe a head pops off in a cartoonish manner.

No, As much as I love Fallout 3, and I DO adore this game, there is no way in HELL I would let my kid play it the way it came from the box. I had to modify the daylights out of it first.


Again, if you want to make something nvde or otherwise advlt, ThATS FINE. Just dont stick the damned pics in my face all over the file archives. The Nexus is a mod download site, NOT a porm shop.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:39 pm

What you are doing is essentially posting a big QQ. Fallout 3 is NOT meant for kids and it is well-known that violence is quite integral to the design of this game, given the history of its predecessors. If you want a game to be free of gore and six, then choose a different game for your son.

Furthermore, modders have no obligation to comply with your demands. If you want to play FO3 and download mods, then choose the mods for your son. If you don't want to go through such a hassle, there are great many games out there that are fun, intense, and relatively non-violent.

With that said, you should consider taking on your responsibility as a parent rather than asking others to go out of their way to align their methodologies to your needs.


All sorts of hostility and pushing onto a different topic, in this one.

All things considered, I expect the OP would be satisfied if the advlt content filter on Nexus worked properly, which according to him, it does not.

Assuming what he's describing is reasonably accurate, I don't think that form of that wish is asking too much. If it's supposed to be an advlt content filter, it needs to work as such.

And then in the middle of it all... you get people on forums whose reading comprehension skills don't work so well, and they read what they expect to see into someone's points in their post instead of what's there.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:40 am

Has anyone else caught the fact that the OP stated that his son is 16? C'mon man, he goes to school, I bet he knows all about what goes on under the covers ;) Hell, if he has access to a computer which isn't monitored he probably downloads the stuff himself.

And good for him. six is nothing to be afraid of, and here in Australia at least, 16 is the legal minimum age for six. Getting rid of the gore - meh, doesn't really matter, as he's still killing stuff, just with a little less blood. The army simulation which I have played (designed to desensitise the act of killing) didn't even have much blood.

You really shouldn't be shielding your child from six when he's 16 years old; just make sure he understands safe six and how to have it ;)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:10 pm

Has anyone else caught the fact that the OP stated that his son is 16? C'mon man, he goes to school, I bet he knows all about what goes on under the covers ;) Hell, if he has access to a computer which isn't monitored he probably downloads the stuff himself.

And good for him. six is nothing to be afraid of, and here in Australia at least, 16 is the legal minimum age for six. Getting rid of the gore - meh, doesn't really matter, as he's still killing stuff, just with a little less blood. The army simulation which I have played (designed to desensitise the act of killing) didn't even have much blood.

You really shouldn't be shielding your child from six when he's 16 years old; just make sure he understands safe six and how to have it ;)


but... there's some content out there that shouldn't be tossed into even a 16 year olds face.

Having said that, I have no idea what image leaked through. and I agree that 16 is getting up there and maybe the kid should be getting his own pr0n subscriptions as his next birthday present. But I still agree with the premise of working advlt content filters.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:49 pm

Has anyone else caught the fact that the OP stated that his son is 16? C'mon man, he goes to school, I bet he knows all about what goes on under the covers ;) Hell, if he has access to a computer which isn't monitored he probably downloads the stuff himself.

And good for him. six is nothing to be afraid of, and here in Australia at least, 16 is the legal minimum age for six. Getting rid of the gore - meh, doesn't really matter, as he's still killing stuff, just with a little less blood. The army simulation which I have played (designed to desensitise the act of killing) didn't even have much blood.

You really shouldn't be shielding your child from six when he's 16 years old; just make sure he understands safe six and how to have it ;)


:foodndrink: Hear hear!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:36 am

but... there's some content out there that shouldn't be tossed into even a 16 year olds face.


Example? Being pretty young myself, I've always found it amusing that kids and teenagers always know what advlts are attempting to censor. By age 16, he will know about even the weird [censored], unless you keep him locked up all day and he's homeschooled.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:29 am

But I still agree with the premise of working advlt content filters.

Agreed, the option should be available and working, but I remember being a teenager and finding away round things because curiosity is very strong in the young, tell them not to look and what you think they are going to do?, heck who here did not sneak down stairs in the middle of the night at Christmas time.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:46 pm

Example? Being pretty young myself, I've always found it amusing that kids and teenagers always know what advlts are attempting to censor. By age 16, he will know about even the weird [censored], unless you keep him locked up all day and he's homeschooled.


The mod I am thinking of featured a change to male raiders where their six organs were well-worked in a 3d modeling program. The porportioning reminded me of what an excited male horse looks like. IMO it was simply not appropriate to spring on anyone unawares, including one's 16 year old teenager.

I am not saying that the filtering for that particular mod is not working! I use it as an example of why the filtering must work. Someone could make another mod like it tomorrow, and if there's an OOPS and someone's kid or mother-in-law sees it, then well. Oops.
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Example? Being pretty young myself, I've always found it amusing that kids and teenagers always know what advlts are attempting to censor. By age 16, he will know about even the weird [censored], unless you keep him locked up all day and he's homeschooled.

Speaks with tone of "he-who-knows"


.and he does sound like he knows, huh? :D


Thankfully, my task of explaining bird/bees procreation and what a brazilian runway is, is along way off, and by then (2023) I'm pretty sure there will be pRon on the back of my box of Wheetie-bix breakfast cereal... oh well.


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