Its mostly in game Nord NPC's that are projecting the so called "mary-sue" vibes;

things like :
Talos founded the empire you know, and the empire turned their backs to him
Talos was a Nord so great the divines came down and uplifted his soul to become one of them

Nords being nationalistic? Nord propaganda? (Everyone's throwing around propaganda too much lately, there isn't going to be any discussion if you can just ignore lore at will because "its propaganda")
The average nord isn't exactly the type to read history books about tiber septim the man. Or what makes talos, talos.

Shor is not dead, damnit! He may not be alive, but he isn't gone.

That, and Tiber was really from High Rock, not Atmora. Either way, he's still my #2, only because he's Shezarr's stand-in.

No.

Serious misuse of the term Mary Sue.

The Thalmor know that coercing the Empire into banning Talos and letting the Jusiciars enforce it won't remove Talos from the Mythic. For now, the purpose is to stir up rebellion in Skyrim, as to weaken the Empire. But right now they may have even increased Talos worship in Skyrim for the time being.

Thalmor seems to be stirring up a lot of nationalist sentiments in Skyrim with Talos;
since all nords in skyrim seems to believe Talos was a Nord that even the divines admired (or retcon ?)

Nords taking the Talos ban personally will ensure the empire will be unable to launch a united offensive against the thalmor (at least one that includes the nords); with the civil war making the nords direct more hatred towards the empire than the thalmor themselves.

Would Skyrim become a client state of the thalmor if they "allowed talos worship" in exchange for complacency ?

Talos was a Nord. He was from High Rock, but a Nord nonetheless. Or a very Nordic Breton named "Hjalti Early-Beard". Him achieving apothesis from the divines is the official version of what happened.

And most Stormcloaks hate the Thalmor more than they hate the Empire. Ulfric himself says that the Thalmor is the real enemy.

I have to agree about Talos, I really don't like how somehow he has been elevated to this being who seems to somehow be keeping the world in order. What are the other divines doing? Just lazying about in their great halls or something? Personally, I agree wiht the author of that book(it's name escapes me) who said that making talos a divnie was a huge mistake on the part of the Empire. The Nords are taking the worship too far in my opinion, I could not worship a human god, it is not meant to be that way.

Though I did read that book, I think its in Riverwood, which said that talos ascended to godhood because of abosrbing the souls of dragons, whta, does that mean our charcater is going to b the 10th divine or something? Mortals should NEVER become Gods.

Whether or not he should become a god or not, isn't even relevant because he is. Talos is a god, has been for a very long time. The other divines also aren't lazy beings, but not all of them have the same desires as Talos does. They are nine different gods. Not 1 with 9 aspects, and not all gods have to agree with each other, even if that's what the Empire would like you to believe.

In that case I can't wait until i'm made the 10th divine then, I might actually get something done. Someone needs to remind me what Tiber and all his other alter ego's did to descend to Godhood, because in a span of 2 in-game years I have done far more to deserve that honor.

I am the revered Dohahkiin of legend who mastered the Thu'um. Thane to Jarls in honour of my feats. I who walked the planes of Sovengarde among the heroes of old and secured the safety of the districts from giants, beasts and monsters. I who recovered lost enchanted treasures and rescued the abducted. I who is favoured by the Divines(not including Talos) and Daedric princes. I who bay at the full moon with my brothers and slay zombies and warlocks and maurauders. I who play a pivetal role in the outcome of the civil war will blow a fus-ro-dah out my backside before I bow my head to Talos!

Talos who conquered Tamriel
Talos who made gods bow down to him
Talos who used ancient forgotten weapons in a way that even the creators had not
Talos who united an entire continent under one Empire
Talos who created peace and stability
Talos who lit the Dragonfires and was proclaimed Emperor

The CoC who found the amulet of Kings
The CoC who saved Martin Septim
The CoC who killed the Head servant of Mehrunes Dagon
The CoC who closed many Oblivion gates and saved every city in Cyrodiil
The CoC who defeated Jyggy and became Sheogorath

The Nerevarine who defeated Dagoth Ur
The Nerevarine who united Morrowind under a single banner
The Nerevarine who ended the reign of the Tribunal Temple
The Nerevarine who overcame Corpus
The Nerevarine who defeated the Mad-God Almalexia
The Nerevarine who won from Hicrine in the Bloodmoon prophecy

The eternal champion who united the staff of Chaos?
Who defeated Jagar Tharn?

The unknown Blade Agent who re-united the Numidian and made Mannimarco a God and yet kept him mortal? Who did god knows what more (because I can't remember the outcomes of Daggerfell)

Seriously the Dovahkiin isn't that special (yet), and of all achievements listed there, Talos did the most amazing things. None of the other people above became gods (except for the CoC, but he didn't become a new god. An old god simply took him).. So why should you?

Talos became god the way Lorkhan made Mundus (=became god). By betrayal-sacrifice blurred by multiple half-truths so that real happenings can't ever be found out, if there ever was just one way things happened. Meaning that just as we can't know was Lorkhan Divine Spark removed by his will or against he's will, we will not know what happened with Tiber Septim, Zurin Arctus and Wulfharth. He walked like god until god walked like him... So to speak. + those things which Fishy87 said are also part of it, but to my understandment re-enacting Lorkhan's destiny was the key point to success in it.

But it seems that lore-wise dragon breaks and several timelines happening in blurry fashion at the same time are over, and we get more easily understandable TES-universe from now on. Or atleast that what i'm getting from Skyrim this far, i hope i'm wrong... This far i've mostly played the game, not looked at it as (blind-drunk) scholar.

Remember, Talos ain't just Tiber Septim. He is also Wulfharth, one of the greatest Nord heroes of all time, and Zurin Arctus, pretty much the best battlemage of that period.

This is what gets me, Talos is 3 in 1, so which one is the most dominant life force? As a battlemage myself I would like it to be Zurin but Tiber seems to be the one

Not a single one of them is the dominant force. Tiber seems to be the one because it's his name...

Which is my point. People are not worshipping Talos they never were, they are worshipping Tiber Septiem.

No they're worshipping Talos. Even if they don't know it. The god is called Talos, not Tiber Septim. They are worshipping a replacement of Shor, who does what Shor should do otherwise, and they're doing a good job of it for the most part. They might believe him to be Tiber Septim, but Tiber Septim did not ascend into godhood... Well not alone.

We know that but those fools in the gameworld don't. Ii;m tired of walking around a gameworld surrounded by ignorants, the real world is bad enough but this is a whole new level. I support the Empire yes and i will happily kill the Thalmor but this notion of Tiber Septim has to stop. Talos as 3 in 1 I do not really mind(I do a bit) since there a 2 others to balance things out, but somehow this view that Tiber is the saviour has to be purged from society.

EDIT:Reading that again i think i'm taking it way too seriously, but hey, it gets to me

People are idiots... Get used to it

To be fair, to get others to accept that theory is like trying to convert christians into believing that Jesus was actually a combination of biblical Jesus, John the Baptist and Judas, and Jesus actually betrayed Judas, and they were just a replacement for Zeus anyway.

I guess your right lmao, but this whole Tiber is the saviour view is basically the premise of the Stormcloaks existence, it must be removed.

Tiber used the First PGE!. It was supper effective!

Don't look at me like that. It's true!