Confessions of an Oblivion Hater : V - Skyrim

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:40 pm

I see, but...
Well the level scaling is major flaw.
The setting also didn't fit the lore.
Some people will say that "no item/spell/weapon/skill X" is flaw, but that was based on whether or not you used said skill/weapon/spell, if you didn't, likely you didn't care about its removal.

How about that Morrowind graphics were better than Oblivions?
More unique models for soul gems, candles, potions etc. No fat suits. better looking daedric and glass.
One dimensional models for things like bushes for crying out loud, thats Daggerfall level of tech.

How about Morrowind offered a depth unheard of in Oblivion?
Compare the various accounts and histories of the ascension of the Triune to the big bad demon comes to kill the world, save us good guy, that Oblivion offered?

How about armour and weapon variety? Oblivion didnt have any.

How about removing a core RPG element as hits based on dicerolls and skill, and replace it with hack n slash mechanics?

How about a unique and handmade world? Oblivion got really annoying for instance finding out that every bookcase was just a copy/paste with the same old boring books in them? Books about things that should have been in the manual anyways, not the game.
Im of the opinion that I have yet to find one single thing in Oblivion that was superior to Morrowind.
I really could go on and on.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:41 pm

How about that Morrowind graphics were better than Oblivions?
More unique models for soul gems, candles, potions etc. No fat suits. better looking daedric and glass.
One dimensional models for things like bushes for crying out loud, thats Daggerfall level of tech.

How about Morrowind offered a depth unheard of in Oblivion?
Compare the various accounts and histories of the ascension of the Triune to the big bad demon comes to kill the world, save us good guy, that Oblivion offered?

How about armour and weapon variety? Oblivion didnt have any.

How about a unique and handmade world? Oblivion got really annoying for instance finding out that every bookcase was just a copy/paste with the same old boring books in them? Books about things that should have been in the manual anyways, not the game.
Im of the opinion that I have yet to find one single thing in Oblivion that was superior to Morrowind.
I really could go on and on.

Look, this is really what people get annoyed at.. It was not his point at all that all these things wasn't valid opinions. He was saying that each has his/her own opnion, but these few things he mentioned are no brainers (something I already responded to).

Look man, I largely agreed with what you wrote(With some pretty major exceptions), but this is totally uncalled for in relation to what you're responding to...

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:05 pm

Oblivion is the best game I have ever played. 850 hours. 24Gb of mods. Played it since it came out. I hate you haters.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:30 pm

Just as the level scaling is based upon whether you want any resistance in the game or it's just one bland big nothingness... I totally agree level scaling was a big flaw, but believe it or not, you'll find people on here who didn't mind it at all... which is all I my point was about

Right, I know very well what it was. But EVERYTHING in Oblivion was scaled.

Well really can't take the lore seriously when even the nature of cyrodiil has been altered to something complety else than it was supposed too be. Add no political depth in the game, Oblivion gates that all looked the same, ruins looked all the same nearly everything looked the same! I could not take the game seriously att all. The AI just made me laugh, the npc's was so funny and failed to give me any respect for them. Well a bigger audience is good, should have labeled Oblivion like Redguard who was an adveture game only not an RPG. I played Oblivion allot, did the mainquest, most of the guilds. I quit playing when I saw mannimarco, what a joke!! Even if I played Oblivion first it would still feel hollow. ]I want really complex RPG games, and not even try to tell me that Oblivion is one of them.

YOU really want a complex RPG. You are just one person, we all are different and have different opinions, but the Majority agree that Oblivion was a good game.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:55 pm

Look, this is really what people get annoyed at.. It was not his point at all that all these things wasn't valid opinions. He was saying that each has his/her own opnion, but these few things he mentioned are no brainers (something I already responded to).

Look man, I largely agreed with what you wrote(With some pretty major exceptions), but this is totally uncalled for in relation to what you're responding to...

Well, I misunderstood then, I apologise.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:18 pm

How about that Morrowind graphics were better than Oblivions?
More unique models for soul gems, candles, potions etc. No fat suits. better looking daedric and glass.
One dimensional models for things like bushes for crying out loud, thats Daggerfall level of tech.

How about Morrowind offered a depth unheard of in Oblivion?
Compare the various accounts and histories of the ascension of the Triune to the big bad demon comes to kill the world, save us good guy, that Oblivion offered?

How about armour and weapon variety? Oblivion didnt have any.

How about removing a core RPG element as hits based on dicerolls and skill, and replace it with hack n slash mechanics?

How about a unique and handmade world? Oblivion got really annoying for instance finding out that every bookcase was just a copy/paste with the same old boring books in them? Books about things that should have been in the manual anyways, not the game.
Im of the opinion that I have yet to find one single thing in Oblivion that was superior to Morrowind.
I really could go on and on.

That is ALL YOUR Opinion. Yes I agree and disagree with you on some points, but so does everybody.

One question, how is it that Morrowinds Graphics are better than Oblivions?

The art style was more unique, yes, but the Graphics?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:39 pm

Well, I misunderstood then, I apologise.

It's all good, I dont just want it to burst up again when it just somewhat died down

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:36 am

Well, since obviously we're all having trouble with the concept that it's okay for people to have differing opinions, I'm going to close this. :shakehead: