Why should not everybody, be exclusively Redgaurd? Obviously the cataclysm wasn't fast enough to kill everybody at once or even they wouldn't have made it out, but if there was enough time to the Redgaurd to get out, why not for other people?

I'm talking about Aldmeris, the magical dream land of Elves that only exists within the Dawn Era. The landscape radically changed when the Dawn Ended, but we do know that it did include Tamriel and Atmora as Lorkhan first took over Atmora before he marched down to Tamriel. Figures the Redgaurd were stomping on the Elves on the left side of Aldmeris.

Could the others have escaped west, to Akavir? The 3rd PGE mentions that there are perhaps some undiscovered races over there, or it could account for one of the ones we already know about.

Transportation and supplies, most likely. Probably only a fraction of the Redguards got out, too - after all, during the Ra Gada campaign they camped at Herne. Which is as far as we know a rather small island. They probably had supplies brought along, but still, if they can last an entire campaigns eason at a small island, it cant have been that many anymore...


Eh, I thought current intepretation is that Aldmeris is metaphorical, and not actually geographical...

It's both, in a way. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllMythsAreTrue, after all.
Well, most of them is.

It's kind of the same way the Ka Po Tun and Tsaesci are elves and humans respectively metaphysically, but not actually biologically.
Or the other way around, if you listen to Sloadie.

Ah, yes, and at the same time, too. [censored] Dawn Time nonlinearity...

So are the Left-Handers not Dwemer? Because I specifically remember the Dwemer being called 'Left-Handed Elves'.

Well, I was thinking. If the same happened to Tamriel, it would be everybody close to the water. Not specifically the Imperials who get out.




No. The Dwemer were dead before the Redgaurd arrived in Hammerfell and the Dwemer never went too Yokuda. We only have Rourkhan leaving Morrowind for Hammerfell.

So we're 100% certain that this is some other type of 'Left-Handed Elf' and that it's only coincidence that they share the same nickname as the Dwemer? This is a serious question, I'm not trying to be a smart-ass.

It's not a coincidence, because the Dwemer are not called that at all.
As far as I know, anyway. If you're right, point me to the place where they're called that and I'll shut up.

The only place I could find was in the timeline as a mention to other sources but I can't actually find those sources.

Well, there's this image.

http://www.imperial-library.info/dwemer/dwemer-z-image.jpg

Now that I think about it, it was probably just a fan theory. I've been out of the community for 2 years so my memory is cloudy.

And this is where your logic breaks down. First off, a "province" can very well vary in size. 16 Yokudan provinces (which are dividend by cultural boundaries) may only size up to 9 Tamrielic ones. After this, see my response to 5b below.

Also, their common naming, "left-handed" elves is odd in an of itself. They were unlikly Aldmer. Why? First off, why would they be designated as "left-handed"elves as opposed to plai old "elves"? Also, if Left-handed does indeed imply an adherence to left-handed philosophical principals, then clearly the very conservative, very tradition-based, and very utilitarian Aldmer don't seem to fit the bill. Saying they are just baseline Aldmer seems a cop-out.



Lets say Tamriel was the one set to sink. Do you think, for instance, the poverty-ridden, sheltered and racially discriminated Argonians would stand much of a chance at survival? Probably not, as in the same way many of the less well-off peoples of Yokuda porbebly died when their home did.



I think this might hold some credence. The Japanese cultural artifacts in Redguard culture imply some Akaviri presence on Yokuda, and I think it is possible one of the cultural groups living on the continent was Akaviri in origin.



Left-handed implies a certain level of similarity in mindset to the Dwemer, but I don't think its very likely they were actually Dwemer, just similar in intention.

After digging around, Lefthanders were most certainly not Dwemer. This was a result of a poorly researched conjecture written by a fan that was posted on TIL.

And Mortazo: some interesting viewpoints, but I have a couple issues.

1. I highly doubt that left implies left on the political scale. This is a completely different world we're talking about here.

2. Akavir =/= Japan. Yoku=/= Japan(or Africa). Akavir=Akavir. Yoku=Yoku. The beauty of TES is that it melds a crapload of RL cultures into single cultures to the point where you really can't draw a broad parallel.

You'll have to forgive me a short cut, but the alternative would be using some fraction of 4*(Cyrodiil + High Rock + Hammerfell + Syrim). You can think of a province as a unit of size being the average of (Cyrodiil + High Rock + Hammerfell + Syrim).

Of course you could argue that large parts of it were empty. To which I would have to concede as it matches the culture of the Yoku. But then it also restores the sense of proportion which was my main objection.



No, but I would expect everybody else near a coast and with a significant port to be out on the water. So that there would be Altmer, Dunmer, Khajiits, Nords. The bulk of the Imperials in this case would be pretty far up the Niben [censored]-creek and stuck in the middle.

1. I'm not referring to the flawed one-dimensional "political scale" that does not accurately describe any person's political beliefs, I'm referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path.

2. Right, but Akaviri culture HAS been shown to be at least some level based off of Japan. The relics the snake-men left behind in Cyrodil are all almost exclusively Japanese in design and build, but at the same time many Redguards practice Japanese combat techniques and use Japanese names, which implies Akaviri influence when used within TES.




The quote is ambiguous on to what exactly it is referring to. It could be geography, but could also just as easily refer to the number of cultural groups the Left-Handers had control over.

Ok, so instead of Tamriel imagine a content full of many races, but with a much shorter coastline. If the Yoku were the only ones inhabiting the east coast, and the the going ons of the west coast are unimportant beacuse the inhabitants would have fled to Akavir as opposed to Tamriel, then it becomes fully imaginable that the Reduards were the only group to actually find their way to Tamriel but that others did indeed exist.