Conjure Wrathmen vs Dremora Lord : V

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:38 am

TItle just about says it all. Which is better in terms of strength/hp etc (In Your experiences). Even though storm atronach is also expert level, its magic based so lets not consider it here.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:30 am

Magic based? I think you will find the DL and wraithman are equally as magic based.

I prefer the wraithman, I'm just bored of the dremora lord. I have to limit my characters using conjuration as it's just too strong.

I believe the wraithman have dragonbone weapons, so they deal more damage but they don't have enchanted weapons unlike the dremora lords. So I imagine the dremora deal more damage to most enemies due to the fire damage.

But the strongest expert level conjuration spell is dread zombie, none of the above summons can beat a draugr deathlord.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:52 am

Wraithmen are governed by perks while DLs are not.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:59 pm

Wrathman! Because he's got glowing purple bones, has more health, looks awesome, and doesn't scream cheese one-liners every strike!

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:37 am

Get the final Conjure perk and summon both

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:23 am

Can't you heal the Wrathmen with Heal Undead? If so I believe that'd make the Wrathmen better or at least more desirable

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:16 am

Can't you heal the Wrathmen with Heal Undead?

Yeah, you can.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:16 pm

I assume then that dremora lords can't be healed?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:22 am

It's been along time since I've used a dremora lord but if I recall correctly I wasn't able to heal them

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:36 am

What is this wrathmen you can conjure?

I've never heard of them, is it a new spell with dawnguard?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:13 pm

What is this wrathmen you can conjure?

I've never heard of them, is it a new spell with dawnguard?

yes
The Wrathman is BAMF, a skeleton in ancient nord armor with a 2H dragonbne weapon

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:51 am

I've done the vampire side so do you have to do the dawnguard side and also is it a spell that is sold?

Google isn't turning anything up on it.

Basically where do you get the spell is what i'm asking.

thanks

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:28 pm

I've done the vampire side so do you have to do the dawnguard side and also is it a spell that is sold?

Google isn't turning anything up on it.

Basically where do you get the spell is what i'm asking.

thanks

Soul Cairn

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:37 am

From the ghost merchant in there?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:26 pm

From the ghost merchant in there?

No, there are 3 tomes scattered through the cairn

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:28 am

Wraithmen are governed by perks while DLs are not.

Which perks affect the wraithman/mistman/boneman?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:00 am

Wraithmen are governed by perks while DLs are not.

Not entirely true, DL do benefit from Atromancy and Summoner. The Wraithmen's advantage would the extra 100hp from Dark Souls.

Which perks affect the wraithman/mistman/boneman?

The right side of the summoning half of the conjuration tree, necromancy, dark souls and obviously twin souls

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:04 am

Can anyone give me a general idea of where the Summon Wrathman spell tome is?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:15 am

Wrathman does more damage but has less health.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:24 am

face serana's mom in her original location. turn around and look forwardish-left you should see the tower glowing up to the sky kind of thing. well its pretty much right near the keeper in that area. if you were at that keeper's location its somewhere within a small radius of the building, on a pedestal in a tiny building thing. You know, they really should have implemented a mini map for the soul cairn. this is so hard to explain.

Here just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzWbfU4S3ys.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:20 am

Ah. thanks.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:12 am

Each. Of the tome is within the radius of a keepers area. Some are a bit further from keeper locations. The only hard one to find is bonemen because it isn't surrounded by giant pillars.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:47 am

i just stumble across them with aura whisper shout i figure something to kill something to loot

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:02 am

i just stumble across them with aura whisper shout i figure something to kill something to loot

Now that is a great idea for finding stuff. Thanks.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:47 pm

My impression is that the wrathment have much better pathing than Dremora Lords. If a melee summon can't actually get to the enemy, it's useless, but my wrathman is pretty reliable.